Yeah well it was 2-3 foot waves around the north side of governors island, it wasn't too bad i was just trying to get a measure on the norm for winni. Also i feel we may not have near the size boat to be "comfortable" using a 16 foot aluminum boat weighing in at about 1700 pounds with 3 people and a dog onboard. We may just have to boat winni on the calm days. However i feel as though we are going to have a lot of fun on winni this summer.