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Old 05-13-2008, 11:28 AM   #238
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Cool No RECORD of Kayaks Being Run Over...

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Originally Posted by brk-lnt View Post
"...You have failed to present any arguments that are truly compelling other than in your own little world...."
Besides kayaking, there is "the little world" of fallen windsurfers, capsized sailboats, kids on floats, people on land within 130' of the water's edge, ejected passengers, sunk/wrecked survivors, divers, canoes, swimmers and fallen skiers. (In addition to sailboats run over while sailing upright).

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Originally Posted by VtSteve View Post
"...Without funding, your laws are of no consequence..."
The NHMP already has trained radar officers AND radar tools have been provided—for free! How do you think the Speed Survey was accomplished?

Yes, I know...Woodsy cheers the Speed Survey at the same time touting THE FACT that radar doesn't work on water.
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"How would you enforce the new law? You cannot shoot a handheld radar gun at a speeding boat and get an accurate reading unless you are close to the same bearing."
—Woodsy
But Woodsy has previously vouched, "there are no records of kayaks being run over on Winnipesaukee".

Say, doesn't a run-over kayak need to be worth $2000 for a report to be legally required?

Yes...Let's give the MPs the means to spot extreme speeders more readily. Existing "Unsafe Passage" regulations are NH-only and clearly neither being observed nor enforced.

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Originally Posted by VtSteve View Post
"...You can also expend all of your brainpower and free time communicating and being all political, but in the end, it gets nothing accomplished..."
Because we don't know how aggressive the NHMP will be, we don't know how effective the outcome will be. I suspect that Bear Islander is correct, and that fewer Winnipesaukee cowboys will frequent the lake—even if radar isn't used at all!

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Originally Posted by Mashugana View Post
"...Unsafe speeds are not allowed here..."
It happens every hour: the wrong people refuse to see any unsafe speed.

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Originally Posted by Mashugana View Post
"...Be seen with a flag and let MP enforce the laws we already have in place..."
1) Why put the burden on the kayaker minding his own business? Capsized kayaks, windsurfers, canoes or sailboats will be displaying zero flags.

2) While Dave R and I are on different sides of this law, both of us are on record here as saying "the invisible kayak" isn't the problem on the lake; but any capsized boat could be a problem. (Think of a certain sunken Cobalt—but at night).

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Originally Posted by Skipper of the Sea Que View Post
"...We all need to work together to make boating safe and fun for all. We do not need more speed related laws to do that..."
As we saw, Littlefield's boat rocketed through a giant loophole: that prompted Concord to make new laws in 2002—and we continue to need new laws.

Law enforcement continues to need every possible tool: why tie their hands?
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