I am sick of constantly reading unsubstantiated claims and people yelling LIE. How will they misdirect? Which way will they spin?
How many people have to prove that safe speed laws are on the books.
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Originally Posted by by Skipper of the Sea Que
There are already laws regarding reasonable, safe speeds on the lake.
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The zealous proponents of HB847 want everyone to believe that there are no speed regulations. Unlimited speed cowboys threaten safety of the young, frail, timid and peaceful. We must restrain these renegades and protect the public.
What drivel. HB847 supporters like Islander often respond to the safe speed requirements that are already in place like this:
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Originally Posted by Islander
Again with this lie! Give it a rest!
If you can't attack the message, attack the messenger.... Or say that he is flooding or trolling.
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Many have shown that safe speeds are the law. The other Skipper documented it well with attributable quotes HERE and more good reading
HERE.
Revisit those posts to refresh your memories about speed and the law.
Islander demonstrates what he says. If you can't attack the message, attack the messenger. That is just what he did to the Skipper of Sea Que.
On another issue:
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Originally Posted by Islander
Do some of you people really think the poll on this forum has any kind of validity?
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The poll was skewed early on due to campaigning. Voting was cut off before a good sample was taken. You obviously did not read the purpose of the poll or the comments by the originator of that poll.
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Originally Posted by Islander
Its on a boating forum!!!  Plus the only people left here are the few (the very few) that are against speed limits, and a couple of die hards that refuse to be run of by the bad manners of the need for speed crowd. |
The HB847 is about new speed limits on the lake. That sounds like a subject for a boating forum. Kayaks are boats. Swimmers and environmentalists may not be.
You talk about bad manners. Ive seen it from both camps but more from the pro side.
Then you lump all those opposed to HB847 with a need for speed crowd. The vast majority of those opposed to the bill are not speed demons. I do not go fast nor boat near the proposed limits. I do know where my limits are regarding Bull Stuff though. I've seen more than enough to force me to make a rare post.
Education not creation. No need to create new laws for speed. Educate and enforce what we have.