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Old 09-21-2004, 09:26 AM   #11
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Default Foam the voters! etc.

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Originally Posted by PROPELLER
Mad, Where is your scientific proof that it is big boat wakes contributing to the foam?
Consider that a "working theory" is akin to a hypothesis. Nothing's "scientific" until somebody produces a study that can be reliably reproduced by another.

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Originally Posted by Outlaw
When organisms, such as algae, plants, fish and/or zebra mussels die and decompose they release fatty acids, which act as surfactants.
Thanks! This is an update for me. I didn't know that zebra mussels were in Cuyahoga County lakes. Our own mussels seem to be alive and well. Zebras do go through "die-offs" which probably raised the consciousness of NY lake residents when foam got bad.

I called DES, and they said they'd seen it so high on Winnipesaukee beaches that winds would blow the foam across the roadway! He couldn't answer my question about when it started, as "foam" records only go back ten years. I think it's related to the "green snot" that started appearing about 20 years ago in my area. Shoreline erosion fertilizes algae. As algae dies, it likely contributes to the foam, as I hadn't seen either (foam or algae) before about 1985, when I rented here on the lake.

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Originally Posted by Propeller
How are you going to stop that?
Like the canary in the coal mine, foam appears to be an indicator of "organic load" in our lake. DES said they closed nearly twice as many lakes in NH this year as last. Something's going to stop "that", and probably too late. (The caboose, as it were).
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Why is your personal dismay of the changes at the lake a life lesson for the rest of us?
I've been at the same spot for fifty years -- longer than Lakegeezer!

It won't be a life-lesson -- for many.

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Originally Posted by Propeller
"I gather from old posts when you were I.R. that you think the biggest boat on the lake should be 24'. Why is that the magic number? Boats 24' & smaller can create big wakes when they are not planed off.
"Mad" is still plodding along at 1.85 posts per day, less than the suggested maximum at the olde Forum. I change my screen name every year so I can better access the archives. "Madrasahs" was selected to raise consciousness about:
1)world events
2)why sailing is better than using fossil fuels
3)and why gallon-per-minute boats contribute to our woes.

Considering "Thumpee" next year.***

What you should have seen was an advocacy of much higher fees for boats larger than 24-feet. Twenty-four feet was the length of the victim's boat in the "Baja incident". ***("I heard a thump".) If a 24-footer can't take the weather, it should anchor in the lee of a shore, or "shouldn't go out in it" in the first place.

Yes, the wakes are bad off-plane even then, but it gets worse as you add tonnage and length. Twenty-four feet is the new "legal maximum" for Folsum Lake, a big lake which got crazy on weekends.
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Originally Posted by Outlaw
Curious, is this something to do with "boat-us envy?"
If you received the latest "Coldwell Banker" real estate flyer, there's a full-page-cover photo of more sailboats clustered together than I have ever seen on Winnipesaukee. Coldwell wants to "project" the ambiance of peace and quiet to their prospective clients. (The "cabin-fever effect", perhaps)

"Envy" must be in the "ear of the beholder", I guess.

All of the boats I own presently are nearly the biggest I've ever wanted to own; however, "envy" is seeing a boat like Winnipesaukee Diver's going by -- under sail.


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Originally Posted by Skip
Still anxiously awaiting any proof you have to back up your insinuation that the New Hampshire State Legislature is corrupt and that the New Hampshire election process is over-run by out of state (Massachussetts in particular) students.

Or were those claims made by you just more "working theories"?
If the Opinion of others quoted in NH newspapers won't do the trick, maybe Intuition will work.

Yesterday's national headlines were overshadowed by TV network woes. What mostly didn't appear was a news story that there are 29,000 New Yorkers illegally registered as voters in both New York and Florida.

1) With NH next door to Massachusetts, and
2) Hanover, NH (Dartmouth) votes going opposite the rest of the state and
3) news accounts like the above,

What should one's intuition tell one? That New Hampshire is immune to fraud?

Who (apparently, not me) can prove that there's no NH Medicare fraud, or NH voter fraud, or NH-lobbyist fraud, or real estate fraud? I mean, even the President's daughters have fake IDs. How is NH exempt from fraud? Because we're "nice"?

I earlier opined that "Massachusetts is run by crooks". You'll note that the Forum's staunch defenders of Massachusett's government have lined up to answer that charge none deep.
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