AARP - NH property tax stories

fatlazyless · 07-09-2007, 06:05 PM

AARP is looking for stories about New Hampshire seniors who pay more than 20% of their annual income in property tax, or who have been forced to sell. Send info to mark@markfernald.com and he'll forward it.

Irish mist · 07-09-2007, 07:33 PM

Lol, Mark Fernald the income tax fanatic is still around I see.

fatlazyless · 07-10-2007, 07:11 AM

Senator Sununu must be very disappointed that Mark Fernald will not be again running for governor in Nov, 2008, like he did in 2002. The Dems are happy that Mark has moved on. Campaigning as an income taxer is a sure way to lose in NH.

Just maybe, NH will lose a Republican senator and gain a Republican president......President Mitt Winnipesaukee. How's that sound?

vrrooom · 07-10-2007, 08:13 AM

I agree with FLA, why dont we duck the political issue

and let the State Supreme Court do the dirty deed ++++++++++++++++++ install a state income tax to support the adequate eduction gambit. I regret that I will no longer spend winters on the lake but in a warmer non income tax state.

MJM · 07-12-2007, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless

AARP is looking for stories about New Hampshire seniors who pay more than 20% of their annual income in property tax, or who have been forced to sell. Send info to mark@markfernald.com and he'll forward it.

If it's a story specifically a seniors, many of whom are retired, what good is an analysis of tax as a % of income? Shouldn't net worth be factored in for a more relevant ratio?

ITD · 07-12-2007, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MJM

If it's a story specifically a seniors, many of whom are retired, what good is an analysis of tax as a % of income? Shouldn't net worth be factored in for a more relevant ratio?

I think that is important as well as an analysis of tax as a % of net worth. I have problem subsidizing people who have a high net worth, in fact to be honest with you I have a problem subsidizing anyone by giving them a break on taxes the rest of us have to pay.
You know its funny that people complain so much about property taxes, I think it's because you actually get a bill for property taxes. Imagine if income taxes were paid via bills versus payroll deductions. There would be a total revolt.

beaner · 07-12-2007, 11:27 PM

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You know its funny that people complain so much about property taxes, I think it's because you actually get a bill for property taxes.

I think the reason people complain about property taxes so much is because it's impossible to cheat on them. You can't hide real estate "under the table" or put it in a Swiss bank. I often find the people who whine the loudest about paying property taxes aren't keen on paying income taxes, either. It always amazes me how many NH residents are actually quite brazen about cheating on their income taxes.

MJM · 07-13-2007, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ITD

.... I think it's because you actually get a bill for property taxes. Imagine if income taxes were paid via bills versus payroll deductions. There would be a total revolt.

TOTALLY 100% agree.

I have a very liberal relative who loves to sing the "I'm happy to pay taxes because this is the greatest country and we have an obligation to help one another" song. But when I ask him "Do you know how much income tax you paid last year, or any year?", he has no idea.

tis · 07-13-2007, 06:27 PM

MJM and ITD. You are SO right.
Also, I have talked to so many people who don't know HOW MUCH their property tax is. It is paid through the bank mortgage monthly so they have no idea.

Jersey Bob · 07-16-2007, 01:22 PM

Really, if we had to send a check to the US Treasury Dept for our federal income taxes instead of having it deducted from our paychecks the public would probably clamoring for more accountability.
It's the same logic as to why casinos use chips on their tables instead of money.

ApS · 12-26-2010, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless

AARP is looking for stories about New Hampshire seniors who pay more than 20% of their annual income in property tax, or who have been forced to sell. Send info to mark@markfernald.com and he'll forward it.

I really had to dig for a relevant Property Tax thread here,

but this week's new IRS legislation has me wondering about submitting an itemized return.

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"...Millions of homeowners, however, might feel like they got a lump of coal. Homeowners who don't itemize their deductions will lose a tax break for paying local property taxes..."

http://tinyurl.com/24zhvzt

ghfromaltonbay · 12-28-2010, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless

Just maybe, NH will lose a Republican senator and gain a Republican president......President Mitt Winnipesaukee. How's that sound?

Saw the Romney's 2010 Christmas card on MSNBC the other day....does the background look familiar?[ATTACH] The card's caption says that the 14 grandkids hope "Papa" runs in 2012.

tis · 12-28-2010, 12:35 PM

Yeah, I think the card says it all. When I saw it, I said: "He's running."

fatlazyless · 12-28-2010, 05:17 PM

If Mitt gets the nomination it would be a tough choice deciding between Mitt or Obama. Mitt is a very smart and hard working guy! Unlike Sarah Palin, Mitt served his entire four year term as Massachusetts governor without quitting after two years as Sarah did, plus Mitt was able to bring forward a mandatory Massachusetts health insurance requirement passed into law by the Mass legislature for all Massachusetts residents. As a presidential candidate maybe Mitt would be strongly in favor of a single payer health care system, country wide.....who knows.....some strange things can happen in politics?

tummyman · 12-28-2010, 05:28 PM

fatlazyless, IMO, no tough choice at all....it should be MITT all the way. Obama is not even in the same league.

This'nThat · 12-28-2010, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless

Unlike Sarah Palin, Mitt served his entire four year term as Massachusetts governor without quitting after two years as Sarah did.....

Let me provide a small correction, here:

Unlike Barack Obama, Mitt served his entire four year term in office without quitting after two years as Obama did..

SIKSUKR · 12-29-2010, 02:33 PM

And unlike Obama,Mitt had been elected to public office more than 2 years before running for president.

It shows.

07-09-2007, 06:05 PM	#1
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,734 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 300 Thanked 1,005 Times in 733 Posts	AARP - NH property tax stories AARP is looking for stories about New Hampshire seniors who pay more than 20% of their annual income in property tax, or who have been forced to sell. Send info to mark@markfernald.com and he'll forward it.

07-10-2007, 07:11 AM	#3
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,734 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 300 Thanked 1,005 Times in 733 Posts	Senator Sununu must be very disappointed that Mark Fernald will not be again running for governor in Nov, 2008, like he did in 2002. The Dems are happy that Mark has moved on. Campaigning as an income taxer is a sure way to lose in NH. Just maybe, NH will lose a Republican senator and gain a Republican president......President Mitt Winnipesaukee. How's that sound? Last edited by fatlazyless; 07-10-2007 at 08:53 AM.

07-10-2007, 08:13 AM	#4
vrrooom Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Gilford Posts: 50 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Income Tax I agree with FLA, why dont we duck the political issue and let the State Supreme Court do the dirty deed ++++++++++++++++++ install a state income tax to support the adequate eduction gambit. I regret that I will no longer spend winters on the lake but in a warmer non income tax state.

07-16-2007, 01:22 PM	#10
Jersey Bob Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Central NJ Posts: 82 Thanks: 74 Thanked 25 Times in 16 Posts	Income Tax Really, if we had to send a check to the US Treasury Dept for our federal income taxes instead of having it deducted from our paychecks the public would probably clamoring for more accountability. It's the same logic as to why casinos use chips on their tables instead of money.

12-28-2010, 05:17 PM	#14
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,734 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 300 Thanked 1,005 Times in 733 Posts	If Mitt gets the nomination it would be a tough choice deciding between Mitt or Obama. Mitt is a very smart and hard working guy! Unlike Sarah Palin, Mitt served his entire four year term as Massachusetts governor without quitting after two years as Sarah did, plus Mitt was able to bring forward a mandatory Massachusetts health insurance requirement passed into law by the Mass legislature for all Massachusetts residents. As a presidential candidate maybe Mitt would be strongly in favor of a single payer health care system, country wide.....who knows.....some strange things can happen in politics? __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake!

07-09-2007, 07:33 PM	#2
Irish mist Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 683 Thanks: 127 Thanked 85 Times in 49 Posts	Lol, Mark Fernald the income tax fanatic is still around I see.

07-13-2007, 06:27 PM	#9
tis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,685 Thanks: 750 Thanked 1,448 Times in 1,006 Posts	MJM and ITD. You are SO right. Also, I have talked to so many people who don't know HOW MUCH their property tax is. It is paid through the bank mortgage monthly so they have no idea.

12-28-2010, 12:35 PM	#13
tis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,685 Thanks: 750 Thanked 1,448 Times in 1,006 Posts	Yeah, I think the card says it all. When I saw it, I said: "He's running."

12-28-2010, 05:28 PM	#15
tummyman Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 831 Thanks: 256 Thanked 671 Times in 242 Posts	fatlazyless, IMO, no tough choice at all....it should be MITT all the way. Obama is not even in the same league.

12-29-2010, 02:33 PM	#17
SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	And unlike Obama,Mitt had been elected to public office more than 2 years before running for president.It shows. __________________ SIKSUKR