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NoBozo · 08-24-2012, 04:38 PM

We have an 17+ year old cat named Moose. She needs to take pill every morning and at night to keep her T4 (Thyroid) within limits.. we cut a 5mg pill into two with one of those "pill cutters" that you can get in any pharmacy.

Stuffing a PILL into a cats mouth twice a day really does not work for long..

We use a product called "Greenies Pill pockets" for cats. It's also available for dogs. It's a little chewy thingy that you stuff the pill into (hide it) and your pet thinks it's a Treat and gobbles it down. It's been working for two years with Moose.

Just thought I'd bring this up in case someone hadn't heard of it.

NB

donnamatrix · 08-27-2012, 10:03 AM

We had a cat that was also in need of thyroid meds every day - she has since gone over the rainbow bridge, but this is a fairly foolproof way to pill a cat or dog.

Buy some Old English cheese - or Velveeta in a jar. Put the pill into a small dollop of cheese -squishing the pill into the center of the dollop of cheese to cover it. Wet your fingers with tap water, and use the water to dampen and make slippery the dollop of cheese. Put cat/dog between your knees with pet's head facing out, open the mouth of pet - insert moistened dollop of cheese. Close pet's mouth and rub pet's nose or under chin to enduce swallowing. Works every time!

SIKSUKR · 08-28-2012, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by donnamatrix

Works every time!

You obviously have not tried that with my late cats as you would have had a different conclusion.

I wish I had known about that product Nobozo when I was trying to give my cats the same medication.They got wise very quick and actually started hiding from me when they knew what was coming.They even got wise to hiding it in many different foods.

SteveA · 08-28-2012, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SIKSUKR

You obviously have not tried that with my late cats as you would have had a different conclusion.

I wish I had known about that product Nobozo when I was trying to give my cats the same medication.They got wise very quick and actually started hiding from me when they knew what was coming.They even got wise to hiding it in many different foods.

Same for us! I did learn from a Vet recently a cool little trick.. Stick the pill on the back of the tongue and squirt a little water from a syringe into the back of the mouth. Cat's natural instinct is to swallow the water and down goes the pill. (One of my cats is sitting right here watching me type.. hope she can't read

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SIKSUKR · 08-29-2012, 01:53 PM

I was told the same thing.Sounds great but trying to get that pill in the mouth IS the whole problem with mine.

wifi · 08-29-2012, 05:39 PM

As a side note, my last Siamese I got at the humane society needed two pills per day. He thought every time I sought him out it was for a pill and he was always hiding. One of his glands was cancerous and excreting too much hormone, and the other was normal. My vet knew of a traveling laser vet, and I had the bad thyroid removed, and he lived a totally normal life for years. He never left my side after that operation....

So, there might be alternatives.

NoBozo · 08-29-2012, 06:26 PM

Our last cat was 13 when diagnosed with a thyroid problem. We explored all the options. I think her T4 was up around 11-12. (Very High) We chose the NUCLEAR Option. Two places in New England could do it. Tufts..and RadioCat in Hartford. We went to Radio Cat because the Tufts "person" I talked to seemed to have a real Elite attitude. She was just a scheduler..

The Nuclear Option is as follows: The cat is quarantined in the facility that will do the procedure. The Procedure IS: They implant a Radioactive kernal in the cats neck, near the thyroid gland, which will alter the thyroids function (permantly) so as to reduce the T4 reading to reasonable levels.

The procedure worked...it reduced the T4 reading. If it matters: The whole thing cost $2,000..Eleven months later the cat died with Massive Cancer throughout the body. We had to put her down..Just Sayin'.

NB

wifi · 08-29-2012, 06:46 PM

The advice I got on the nuclear option, was that it totally stopped the thyroid operation, and you would have to give pills to supplement the missing hormone. I my case I wanted to get away from medication totally. I chose the operation, knowing medication would work if the operation didn't and I wouldn't be any worse.

Just presenting what I experienced, every case is unique... YMMV

tis · 08-30-2012, 06:38 AM

Our toy poodle has been on two thyroid pills a day since he was one. The vet never suggested surgery although I have heard of it. Makes you wonder if the surgery helped initiate the cancer, doesn't it No Bozo?

NoBozo · 08-30-2012, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by tis

Our toy poodle has been on two thyroid pills a day since he was one. The vet never suggested surgery although I have heard of it. Makes you wonder if the surgery helped initiate the cancer, doesn't it No Bozo?

Sadly, that has been my belief, but I guess every case is different.

NB

NoBozo · 08-30-2012, 06:08 PM

I was in ERROR. It was not an implanted radioactive kernel. It was a Radioactive Injection. NO Surgery. Rather than try to explain what I think ..I Remember from 13 years ago...here is the "Current" website for RadioCat.

http://www.radiocat.com/

When we got the cat back from Hartford we had to take particular care as to how we disposed of the Kitty Litter because it was considerd radioactive waste until the radiation wore off.

Whatever the particulars....the results were the same. NB

Lakesrider · 08-30-2012, 08:01 PM

One of my cats, Jumper, is a mooch. If he sees you eating something, he wants it too. So all you would need to do with my cat would be to hold the pill up to your mouth and whammo the cat would be there ready to pounce on any pill you wanted to give it.....

08-24-2012, 04:38 PM	#1
NoBozo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth. RI Posts: 2,231 Thanks: 400 Thanked 460 Times in 308 Posts	OLD Puss We have an 17+ year old cat named Moose. She needs to take pill every morning and at night to keep her T4 (Thyroid) within limits.. we cut a 5mg pill into two with one of those "pill cutters" that you can get in any pharmacy. Stuffing a PILL into a cats mouth twice a day really does not work for long.. We use a product called "Greenies Pill pockets" for cats. It's also available for dogs. It's a little chewy thingy that you stuff the pill into (hide it) and your pet thinks it's a Treat and gobbles it down. It's been working for two years with Moose. Just thought I'd bring this up in case someone hadn't heard of it. NB

08-27-2012, 10:03 AM	#2
donnamatrix Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonboro Posts: 833 Thanks: 24 Thanked 258 Times in 120 Posts	Best way to pill a cat - or dog! We had a cat that was also in need of thyroid meds every day - she has since gone over the rainbow bridge, but this is a fairly foolproof way to pill a cat or dog. Buy some Old English cheese - or Velveeta in a jar. Put the pill into a small dollop of cheese -squishing the pill into the center of the dollop of cheese to cover it. Wet your fingers with tap water, and use the water to dampen and make slippery the dollop of cheese. Put cat/dog between your knees with pet's head facing out, open the mouth of pet - insert moistened dollop of cheese. Close pet's mouth and rub pet's nose or under chin to enduce swallowing. Works every time!

08-29-2012, 01:53 PM	#5
SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	I was told the same thing.Sounds great but trying to get that pill in the mouth IS the whole problem with mine. __________________ SIKSUKR

08-29-2012, 06:26 PM	#7
NoBozo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth. RI Posts: 2,231 Thanks: 400 Thanked 460 Times in 308 Posts	13 Years Ago Our last cat was 13 when diagnosed with a thyroid problem. We explored all the options. I think her T4 was up around 11-12. (Very High) We chose the NUCLEAR Option. Two places in New England could do it. Tufts..and RadioCat in Hartford. We went to Radio Cat because the Tufts "person" I talked to seemed to have a real Elite attitude. She was just a scheduler.. The Nuclear Option is as follows: The cat is quarantined in the facility that will do the procedure. The Procedure IS: They implant a Radioactive kernal in the cats neck, near the thyroid gland, which will alter the thyroids function (permantly) so as to reduce the T4 reading to reasonable levels. The procedure worked...it reduced the T4 reading. If it matters: The whole thing cost $2,000..Eleven months later the cat died with Massive Cancer throughout the body. We had to put her down..Just Sayin'. NB

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08-29-2012, 05:39 PM	#6
wifi Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Lakes Region Posts: 1,321 Thanks: 282 Thanked 287 Times in 169 Posts	As a side note, my last Siamese I got at the humane society needed two pills per day. He thought every time I sought him out it was for a pill and he was always hiding. One of his glands was cancerous and excreting too much hormone, and the other was normal. My vet knew of a traveling laser vet, and I had the bad thyroid removed, and he lived a totally normal life for years. He never left my side after that operation.... So, there might be alternatives.

08-29-2012, 06:46 PM	#8
wifi Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Lakes Region Posts: 1,321 Thanks: 282 Thanked 287 Times in 169 Posts	The advice I got on the nuclear option, was that it totally stopped the thyroid operation, and you would have to give pills to supplement the missing hormone. I my case I wanted to get away from medication totally. I chose the operation, knowing medication would work if the operation didn't and I wouldn't be any worse. Just presenting what I experienced, every case is unique... YMMV

08-30-2012, 06:38 AM	#9
tis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,697 Thanks: 751 Thanked 1,452 Times in 1,009 Posts	Our toy poodle has been on two thyroid pills a day since he was one. The vet never suggested surgery although I have heard of it. Makes you wonder if the surgery helped initiate the cancer, doesn't it No Bozo?

08-30-2012, 06:08 PM	#11
NoBozo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth. RI Posts: 2,231 Thanks: 400 Thanked 460 Times in 308 Posts	I was in ERROR. It was not an implanted radioactive kernel. It was a Radioactive Injection. NO Surgery. Rather than try to explain what I think ..I Remember from 13 years ago...here is the "Current" website for RadioCat. http://www.radiocat.com/ When we got the cat back from Hartford we had to take particular care as to how we disposed of the Kitty Litter because it was considerd radioactive waste until the radiation wore off. Whatever the particulars....the results were the same. NB

08-30-2012, 08:01 PM	#12
Lakesrider Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,129 Thanks: 380 Thanked 1,016 Times in 345 Posts	One of my cats, Jumper, is a mooch. If he sees you eating something, he wants it too. So all you would need to do with my cat would be to hold the pill up to your mouth and whammo the cat would be there ready to pounce on any pill you wanted to give it.....

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