Vintage Irwin and Chris Craft 8 MM file footage

chasedawg · 01-18-2014, 12:30 PM

You’ve got to see this....Amazing footage of Irwins 40's and 50's with Chris Craft boats

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3gWUSrIO6k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrKIAHzvBAE#t=13

Orion · 01-18-2014, 01:28 PM

Most excellent. Thanks for posting.

Was it mandatory to wave at the camera back then?

Irwin's sure had quite an operation going there, even bringing in the boats by rail...nice!

pcmc · 01-18-2014, 01:29 PM

Nice videos.
I'm curious why the captains controls went from the left side of boats, like in the videos , to the right side of boats on today's boats. Anyone know why ?

Diver1111 · 01-18-2014, 02:43 PM

Great footage thank you.

NoBozo · 01-18-2014, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by pcmc

Nice videos.
I'm curious why the captains controls went from the left side of boats, like in the videos , to the right side of boats on today's boats. Anyone know why ?

It has to do with direction of propeller rotation..and..engine torque effect. "Left" handed" Vs "Right handed" propellers.. Right handed props turn clockwise, as viewed from aft..looking forward. Older boats quite often were left handed. Today's single engined boats are usually Right handed.

It also had to do with engine torque effect. Twin engine boats will have one prop rotating clockwise and the other prop will rotate counter-clockwise..cancelling out the torque.

Single engined boats tend to lean to one side (torque effect)..like a "List" while underway at speed..so the Solo drivers weight is located on the opposite side of the boat to counteract the lean.

NB

salty dog · 01-18-2014, 05:33 PM

Great to watch! I really enjoy seeing the old wooden Chris-Crafts back in the day. Isn't it amazing looking at the quality of those 50 to 60 year old home movies what can be done today with even a cell phone video.

pcmc · 01-18-2014, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoBozo

It has to do with direction of propeller rotation..and..engine torque effect. "Left" handed" Vs "Right handed" propellers.. Right handed props turn clockwise, as viewed from aft..looking forward. Older boats quite often were left handed. Today's single engined boats are usually Right handed.

It also had to do with engine torque effect. Twin engine boats will have one prop rotating clockwise and the other prop will rotate counter-clockwise..cancelling out the torque.

Single engined boats tend to lean to one side (torque effect)..like a "List" while underway at speed..so the Solo drivers weight is located on the opposite side of the boat to counteract the lean.

NB

NB, I appreciate the explanation thankyou so much, I wouldn't have thought of that.

Merrymeeting · 01-18-2014, 05:55 PM

Thanks chasedawg! The first 15 seconds of the first video made it for me.

My brother and I restored the same Chris Craft model shown there when I graduated from college. We ran it on Merrymeeting for many years, but finally sold it when the kids started arriving and we no longer had the time to devote to the maintenance required. We still miss it!

NoBozo · 01-18-2014, 06:11 PM

This Torque Effect is particularly noticeable in single engine airplanes...from today's Cessna... to the P-47 Thunderbolt of WWII fame.

On takeoff..when you Add Power..you need to ADD RIGHT Rudder to counteract the tendency of the plane to Veer Off the runway to the left.

NB

NoBozo · 01-18-2014, 07:44 PM

In the case of the 2300 HP P-47 Thunderbolt (Fighter) of WWII...If you added throttle Too Fast... OR Too soon, On takeoff..you could roll the plane off the runway onto it's back..... "Ding Bang Ow". NB

PS: A Cessna 172 @160HP will also veer off the runway if you don't add some right rudder at takeoff.

SunsetPointWentworth · 01-18-2014, 09:12 PM

Thanks for the video, Chasedawg. What were they doing at minute 1:30? It looked odd to have a boat and trailer down on the ice. Or was it beside the ice and not on it?

Descant · 01-19-2014, 01:28 PM

Thanks for posting. My father bought a new 1950 CC Express cruiser from Irwin. Special order with a hardtop. In the 60's for a couple of summers I drove the "Winni's". Over the years, we bought 5 Chris-Crafts from Irwin, and now we're on our third Sea Ray. Good people to do business with, and huge supporters of all that is positive about our lake.

01-18-2014, 12:30 PM	#1
chasedawg Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Melvin village Posts: 522 Thanks: 512 Thanked 314 Times in 148 Posts	Vintage Irwin and Chris Craft 8 MM file footage You’ve got to see this....Amazing footage of Irwins 40's and 50's with Chris Craft boats http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3gWUSrIO6k http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrKIAHzvBAE#t=13

01-18-2014, 01:28 PM	#2
Orion Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Cow Island Posts: 914 Thanks: 602 Thanked 193 Times in 91 Posts	A different era to be sure Most excellent. Thanks for posting. Was it mandatory to wave at the camera back then? Irwin's sure had quite an operation going there, even bringing in the boats by rail...nice!

01-18-2014, 05:33 PM	#6
salty dog Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Beverly Cove, Ma Posts: 359 Thanks: 288 Thanked 148 Times in 82 Posts	Great to watch! I really enjoy seeing the old wooden Chris-Crafts back in the day. Isn't it amazing looking at the quality of those 50 to 60 year old home movies what can be done today with even a cell phone video. __________________ I'd rather be relax'n at Winnipesaukee

01-18-2014, 06:11 PM	#9
NoBozo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth. RI Posts: 2,231 Thanks: 400 Thanked 460 Times in 308 Posts	Torque Effect This Torque Effect is particularly noticeable in single engine airplanes...from today's Cessna... to the P-47 Thunderbolt of WWII fame. On takeoff..when you Add Power..you need to ADD RIGHT Rudder to counteract the tendency of the plane to Veer Off the runway to the left. NB Last edited by NoBozo; 01-18-2014 at 07:38 PM.

01-18-2014, 07:44 PM	#10
NoBozo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth. RI Posts: 2,231 Thanks: 400 Thanked 460 Times in 308 Posts	Torque Effect + In the case of the 2300 HP P-47 Thunderbolt (Fighter) of WWII...If you added throttle Too Fast... OR Too soon, On takeoff..you could roll the plane off the runway onto it's back..... "Ding Bang Ow". NB PS: A Cessna 172 @160HP will also veer off the runway if you don't add some right rudder at takeoff.

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Merrymeeting Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Merrymeeting Lake, New Durham Posts: 2,226 Thanks: 302 Thanked 800 Times in 368 Posts	Thanks chasedawg! The first 15 seconds of the first video made it for me. My brother and I restored the same Chris Craft model shown there when I graduated from college. We ran it on Merrymeeting for many years, but finally sold it when the kids started arriving and we no longer had the time to devote to the maintenance required. We still miss it!

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SunsetPointWentworth Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: claremont/wolfeboro Posts: 155 Thanks: 114 Thanked 51 Times in 26 Posts	Thanks for the video, Chasedawg. What were they doing at minute 1:30? It looked odd to have a boat and trailer down on the ice. Or was it beside the ice and not on it?

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Descant Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Merrimack and Welch Island Posts: 4,329 Thanks: 1,335 Thanked 1,619 Times in 1,051 Posts	Good memories Thanks for posting. My father bought a new 1950 CC Express cruiser from Irwin. Special order with a hardtop. In the 60's for a couple of summers I drove the "Winni's". Over the years, we bought 5 Chris-Crafts from Irwin, and now we're on our third Sea Ray. Good people to do business with, and huge supporters of all that is positive about our lake.