Cedar Flat log sanding needed - who can do it ?

mountainhouse · 07-14-2016, 09:58 AM

Cedar Flat Log sanding needed - who can do it ?
I have a home in Meredith which is Cedar flat log (board basically), which has aged and needs sanded before re-staining. I have finished about 3/4 of the house, but just running out of energy.
The work would require up to 12 feet up and was an area that is 24 feet wide. Based on my progress, it would be about 6-8 hours of belt sanding.
Any good suggestions on who can do this ?

joey2665 · 07-14-2016, 02:07 PM

Dan 603-387-6703

dpg · 07-15-2016, 06:11 AM

Your 3/4 done and quitting? Just take a week or two off and knock it out!

Or another thought go to the beginning and start staining (assuming your doing it yourself) then by the time your back at the sanding section maybe you'll muster enough energy to get 'er done.

mountainhouse · 07-15-2016, 09:10 AM

Thanks, but was wanting to finish this year, and someone with a scaffolding could knock this out quick. Also 2 other major projects have to finish before fall.
A little relief can go along way.

Descant · 07-15-2016, 04:18 PM

Congratulations on one of the best posts ever requesting information
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4. Pictures

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NoBozo · 07-15-2016, 05:59 PM

Is this Red Cedar OR White Cedar. Red Cedar ..is more expensive but should always be painted. It will last forever.

White cedar can be bleached or allowed to weather. Looks like Cape Cod "weathered".

Belt sanding..??? NOT what I would do. Pressure washing..NOT what I would do. If there is an old coating on the wood..Varnish..etc. Strip it with a hook scraper..By HAND..OR Chemical Paint stripper. Anything else Removes TOO much Wood. Not good.

NB

BTW: Varnish looks nifty for about 3 years. Then you need to strip it and do it again. Unlike Paint...you just can't lay another coat of varnish on top of the old weathered varnish.

mountainhouse · 07-17-2016, 07:34 PM

It is actually western cedar vs. eastern cedar, which this is western and belt sanding is the only uniform way to remove the sun etched aging, and make it look like new. Sikkens Log and Siding (oil based) is used and yes, every 3 years it should have a top coat, but now that it is going to be properly maintained the blackish won't be back.
PS: not sure what was on before, but it comes off with slight flakeyness.
On the out of the sun sides, 40 grit does well and after about 30 minutes, replacing the belt. On the Sunny side 36 grit is used. Right now the finish is almost like new.
Take a look at this picture:
Boards being sanded are nearly tannish. Sun baked boards are nearly blackish and 2 coats of Sikkens Cedar 077 on old boards with 30 years of tannin (after 36 grit sanding) comes out a very nice reddish (almost redwood like) tone.

Descant · 07-17-2016, 08:47 PM

Bless you. I just replaced 50% of the cedar siding on my house after 38 years. Mostly on the south side which gets direct sun. Over that time, we recoated the stain a fews times, not much else. I'm amazed at the work you're putting in, and suggesting, if I read it right that you have to do it in 3-5 year cycles. For me, the cedar choice was low maintenance and it worked. Your finished product looks great, but the repeat cycle seems very short.

mountainhouse · 07-18-2016, 08:41 AM

Hi - only the top coat re-stain is every 3 years. The sanding should be once in 30 years

07-14-2016, 09:58 AM	#1
mountainhouse Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: West of Meredith (inching toward the water) Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Cedar Flat log sanding needed - who can do it ? Cedar Flat Log sanding needed - who can do it ? I have a home in Meredith which is Cedar flat log (board basically), which has aged and needs sanded before re-staining. I have finished about 3/4 of the house, but just running out of energy. The work would require up to 12 feet up and was an area that is 24 feet wide. Based on my progress, it would be about 6-8 hours of belt sanding. Any good suggestions on who can do this ? Attached Images Last edited by mountainhouse; 07-14-2016 at 01:55 PM.

07-14-2016, 02:07 PM	#2
joey2665 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Meredith Bay & LI, NY Posts: 3,222 Thanks: 1,219 Thanked 1,009 Times in 649 Posts	Makely & Son Dan 603-387-6703

07-15-2016, 04:18 PM	#5
Descant Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Merrimack and Welch Island Posts: 4,311 Thanks: 1,328 Thanked 1,615 Times in 1,048 Posts	Informative post Congratulations on one of the best posts ever requesting information 1. A clear definitive title, repeated in the text for thed tapatalk folks 2. You told us where 3. Complete job description 4. Pictures Well Done.

07-17-2016, 07:34 PM	#7
mountainhouse Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: West of Meredith (inching toward the water) Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	It is actually western cedar vs. eastern cedar, which this is western and belt sanding is the only uniform way to remove the sun etched aging, and make it look like new. Sikkens Log and Siding (oil based) is used and yes, every 3 years it should have a top coat, but now that it is going to be properly maintained the blackish won't be back. PS: not sure what was on before, but it comes off with slight flakeyness. On the out of the sun sides, 40 grit does well and after about 30 minutes, replacing the belt. On the Sunny side 36 grit is used. Right now the finish is almost like new. Take a look at this picture: Boards being sanded are nearly tannish. Sun baked boards are nearly blackish and 2 coats of Sikkens Cedar 077 on old boards with 30 years of tannin (after 36 grit sanding) comes out a very nice reddish (almost redwood like) tone. Attached Images

07-17-2016, 08:47 PM	#8
Descant Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Merrimack and Welch Island Posts: 4,311 Thanks: 1,328 Thanked 1,615 Times in 1,048 Posts	Cedar siding Bless you. I just replaced 50% of the cedar siding on my house after 38 years. Mostly on the south side which gets direct sun. Over that time, we recoated the stain a fews times, not much else. I'm amazed at the work you're putting in, and suggesting, if I read it right that you have to do it in 3-5 year cycles. For me, the cedar choice was low maintenance and it worked. Your finished product looks great, but the repeat cycle seems very short.

07-15-2016, 06:11 AM	#3
dpg Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,591 Thanks: 150 Thanked 229 Times in 166 Posts	Your 3/4 done and quitting? Just take a week or two off and knock it out! Or another thought go to the beginning and start staining (assuming your doing it yourself) then by the time your back at the sanding section maybe you'll muster enough energy to get 'er done.

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07-15-2016, 09:10 AM	#4
mountainhouse Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: West of Meredith (inching toward the water) Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Thanks, but was wanting to finish this year, and someone with a scaffolding could knock this out quick. Also 2 other major projects have to finish before fall. A little relief can go along way.

07-15-2016, 05:59 PM	#6
NoBozo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth. RI Posts: 2,231 Thanks: 400 Thanked 460 Times in 308 Posts	Is this Red Cedar OR White Cedar. Red Cedar ..is more expensive but should always be painted. It will last forever. White cedar can be bleached or allowed to weather. Looks like Cape Cod "weathered". Belt sanding..??? NOT what I would do. Pressure washing..NOT what I would do. If there is an old coating on the wood..Varnish..etc. Strip it with a hook scraper..By HAND..OR Chemical Paint stripper. Anything else Removes TOO much Wood. Not good. NB BTW: Varnish looks nifty for about 3 years. Then you need to strip it and do it again. Unlike Paint...you just can't lay another coat of varnish on top of the old weathered varnish.

07-18-2016, 08:41 AM	#9
mountainhouse Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: West of Meredith (inching toward the water) Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Hi - only the top coat re-stain is every 3 years. The sanding should be once in 30 years