Roofing contract

SailinAway · 07-27-2021, 12:29 PM

I'm pretty sure this is a no-brainer, but maybe you can see different sides to the question: Would you hire someone to replace your roof without a contract? I believe the reason in this case is "roofer doesn't have time to write a contract because this is a rush job."

John Mercier · 07-27-2021, 12:35 PM

If I knew the roofer and their reputation well. But generally, no.

Grandpa Redneck · 07-27-2021, 04:44 PM

NO, no contract, no job, period. My daughter almost got shafted by a "roofer" He took a down payment for materials, then never showed, fortunately they did have a contract. so they got the Sanbornton PD involved, and eventually got her deposit back. The same joker has pulled the same stunt on a few people since.

thinkxingu · 07-27-2021, 04:53 PM

My buddy owns a roofing company in southern New Hampshire, and he can provide a contract almost on the spot. No idea why this guy couldn't do the same?

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Biggd · 07-27-2021, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SailinAway

I'm pretty sure this is a no-brainer, but maybe you can see different sides to the question: Would you hire someone to replace your roof without a contract? I believe the reason in this case is "roofer doesn't have time to write a contract because this is a rush job."

No contract/no deposit, that's the only way I would do it.
I once hired a fence guy this way. He didn't want to give me a contract so I said I will pay you every day when you show up.
He did a great job, I paid him 1/3 every day for three days. Of coarse this was back when contractors weren't so busy.

John Mercier · 07-27-2021, 08:13 PM

A written contract is not just about the pay.
It outlines the responsibility of the contractor to the homeowner.

The homeowner cannot demand more than what is in the contract, and the contractor must supply work up to a standard.

For a homeowner this would mean that the roofer not applying the material correctly as per warranty would be an actionable offense.

The best products on the planet have no value when used incorrectly.

Descant · 07-29-2021, 10:13 AM

Many contractors can go to their laptop in the truck and email a contract within minutes. In addition to specifying materials, "workmanlike manner" etc. they should add "protect foundation plantings" remove nails and other dropped materials, leave site as found, etc. A specified timeline, interim tarping and other provisions might be a part of the contract. This is probably all boilerplate for a competent contractor, whether roof or some other trade. If there is any doubt, call the references; verify the number so you know you're talking to a real reference, not the roofer's buddy.
Sometime ago, I asked about a permit. The building inspector said not needed for maintenance, but he wanted to inspect as soon as rotten boards were being replaced. Your local building inspector can be an asset, no charge for advice.

What did your insurance carrier say? They may inspect and/or approve to be sure you and they are getting what you pay for. They usually pay for "like kind and quality" so any up grade may be on you.

codeman671 · 07-29-2021, 10:39 AM

Absolutely not! Too many crooks out there these days. Get it in writing.

SailinAway · 07-31-2021, 08:52 PM

I agree with all of the above and am looking for a new roofer.

07-27-2021, 12:29 PM	#1
SailinAway Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 991 Thanks: 256 Thanked 280 Times in 169 Posts	Roofing contract I'm pretty sure this is a no-brainer, but maybe you can see different sides to the question: Would you hire someone to replace your roof without a contract? I believe the reason in this case is "roofer doesn't have time to write a contract because this is a rush job."

07-27-2021, 04:44 PM	#3
Grandpa Redneck Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: White Mountain Area NH Posts: 155 Thanks: 310 Thanked 112 Times in 59 Posts	NO, no contract, no job, period. My daughter almost got shafted by a "roofer" He took a down payment for materials, then never showed, fortunately they did have a contract. so they got the Sanbornton PD involved, and eventually got her deposit back. The same joker has pulled the same stunt on a few people since. __________________ Freedom Lovin' gun crazy Redneck

07-29-2021, 10:13 AM	#7
Descant Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Merrimack and Welch Island Posts: 4,378 Thanks: 1,353 Thanked 1,628 Times in 1,060 Posts	Laptop Many contractors can go to their laptop in the truck and email a contract within minutes. In addition to specifying materials, "workmanlike manner" etc. they should add "protect foundation plantings" remove nails and other dropped materials, leave site as found, etc. A specified timeline, interim tarping and other provisions might be a part of the contract. This is probably all boilerplate for a competent contractor, whether roof or some other trade. If there is any doubt, call the references; verify the number so you know you're talking to a real reference, not the roofer's buddy. Sometime ago, I asked about a permit. The building inspector said not needed for maintenance, but he wanted to inspect as soon as rotten boards were being replaced. Your local building inspector can be an asset, no charge for advice. What did your insurance carrier say? They may inspect and/or approve to be sure you and they are getting what you pay for. They usually pay for "like kind and quality" so any up grade may be on you.

07-27-2021, 12:35 PM	#2
John Mercier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 3,420 Thanks: 3 Thanked 600 Times in 496 Posts	If I knew the roofer and their reputation well. But generally, no.

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07-27-2021, 04:53 PM	#4
thinkxingu Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 6,285 Thanks: 1,174 Thanked 2,078 Times in 1,290 Posts	My buddy owns a roofing company in southern New Hampshire, and he can provide a contract almost on the spot. No idea why this guy couldn't do the same? Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

07-27-2021, 08:13 PM	#6
John Mercier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 3,420 Thanks: 3 Thanked 600 Times in 496 Posts	A written contract is not just about the pay. It outlines the responsibility of the contractor to the homeowner. The homeowner cannot demand more than what is in the contract, and the contractor must supply work up to a standard. For a homeowner this would mean that the roofer not applying the material correctly as per warranty would be an actionable offense. The best products on the planet have no value when used incorrectly.

07-29-2021, 10:39 AM	#8
codeman671 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,501 Thanks: 221 Thanked 815 Times in 489 Posts	Absolutely not! Too many crooks out there these days. Get it in writing.

07-31-2021, 08:52 PM	#9
SailinAway Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 991 Thanks: 256 Thanked 280 Times in 169 Posts	I agree with all of the above and am looking for a new roofer.