Dock Repair

NHDOLFAN · 10-13-2009, 09:55 AM

I need to replace 2 pilings that the ice has damaged. I am wondering if anyone has had this done recently, by whom and the cost. Any help is appreciated.

ApS · 10-13-2009, 11:34 AM

Piling-replacements by local barge companies can be a very expensive repair; moreover, use of the barge may be unnecessary and produce results that are disappointing.

While it's true that a piling driven into the same spot will be "new", it will also be wobbly for years! (And likely become a problem again in subsequent "bad-ice" years).

You don't mention it, but you'll have little choice if the piling had failed due to the rot that most often occurs at the high-water line. If the ice just pushed the piling out from under the 5x7 dock support, you could have a local handyman fix it. One came to a Wolfeboro neighbor's ice-damaged dock all the way from Meredith (by boat).

Also, if you have "tie-off" pilings, one piling can be replaced by two secured-together for additional ice resistance without a permit being required. Three wrapped together—like a teepee—require a permit. (That was "the word" in Wolfeboro in recent years, anyway.

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BTW: I've noticed that the ice will push against a piling in short surges. When there are enough "serial" surges, the piling will push against the huge spike:

1) and either splinter the supporting 5x7 or,
2) bend the spike,
3) or both!

Photo #1 shows a spike bent straight up. Using a short length of pipe, I've since broken that spike off, as it was a hidden danger to kids playing under the dock when the usual big wakes would roll in.

To counter ice's "push", I add heavy chains to give the pilings additional support. One chain actually broke this past winter but likely saved the piling from becoming a victim of "push-under" (at least once, anyway).

Like mooring chains, those have to be inspected every five years or so. For some reason, this lake just "eats" chain!

Highlander · 10-14-2009, 04:19 PM

Had 2 pilings replaced this spring after ice damage. You need a permit from the state to the tune of $650 to do anything in the water. The cost to replace on piling and reset the 3 cluster pilings we use as an ice deflector was approx. $1,700 in addition to the cost of the permit. Not pretty but that's the game. It took us 3 months to get the permit from the state and that was when they supposedly were not to busy.
Good Luck

ishoot308 · 10-14-2009, 04:45 PM

If I were you I would contact Dave Farley of Diversified Marine Construction. He could handle everything for you including the permits if necessary. Here is his web site... http://www.divermarine.com/

He is doing work for me now at my camp and has been great!

Good Luck!

Dan

offmycloud · 10-15-2009, 09:56 AM

Center Harbor Dock and Pier are also great. They put an entire new dock for me last year and did a phenomenal job. Call Don Carey there - 253-4000.

10-13-2009, 11:34 AM	#2
ApS Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Florida (Sebring & Keys), Wolfeboro Posts: 5,941 Thanks: 2,213 Thanked 778 Times in 554 Posts	The Eeevil "Push-Under"... Piling-replacements by local barge companies can be a very expensive repair; moreover, use of the barge may be unnecessary and produce results that are disappointing. While it's true that a piling driven into the same spot will be "new", it will also be wobbly for years! (And likely become a problem again in subsequent "bad-ice" years). You don't mention it, but you'll have little choice if the piling had failed due to the rot that most often occurs at the high-water line. If the ice just pushed the piling out from under the 5x7 dock support, you could have a local handyman fix it. One came to a Wolfeboro neighbor's ice-damaged dock all the way from Meredith (by boat). Also, if you have "tie-off" pilings, one piling can be replaced by two secured-together for additional ice resistance without a permit being required. Three wrapped together—like a teepee—require a permit. (That was "the word" in Wolfeboro in recent years, anyway. ) BTW: I've noticed that the ice will push against a piling in short surges. When there are enough "serial" surges, the piling will push against the huge spike: 1) and either splinter the supporting 5x7 or, 2) bend the spike, 3) or both! Photo #1 shows a spike bent straight up. Using a short length of pipe, I've since broken that spike off, as it was a hidden danger to kids playing under the dock when the usual big wakes would roll in. To counter ice's "push", I add heavy chains to give the pilings additional support. One chain actually broke this past winter but likely saved the piling from becoming a victim of "push-under" (at least once, anyway). Like mooring chains, those have to be inspected every five years or so. For some reason, this lake just "eats" chain! Attached Images

10-14-2009, 04:19 PM	#3
Highlander Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Alton Bay Posts: 74 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Pilings Had 2 pilings replaced this spring after ice damage. You need a permit from the state to the tune of $650 to do anything in the water. The cost to replace on piling and reset the 3 cluster pilings we use as an ice deflector was approx. $1,700 in addition to the cost of the permit. Not pretty but that's the game. It took us 3 months to get the permit from the state and that was when they supposedly were not to busy. Good Luck

10-14-2009, 04:45 PM	#4
ishoot308 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Gilford, NH / Welch Island Posts: 6,294 Thanks: 2,403 Thanked 5,306 Times in 2,067 Posts	Diversified If I were you I would contact Dave Farley of Diversified Marine Construction. He could handle everything for you including the permits if necessary. Here is his web site... http://www.divermarine.com/ He is doing work for me now at my camp and has been great! Good Luck! Dan

10-15-2009, 09:56 AM	#5
offmycloud Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Chicago IL and Moultonborough Posts: 165 Thanks: 3 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Center Harbor Dock and Pier Center Harbor Dock and Pier are also great. They put an entire new dock for me last year and did a phenomenal job. Call Don Carey there - 253-4000.

10-13-2009, 09:55 AM	#1
NHDOLFAN Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 73 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Dock Repair I need to replace 2 pilings that the ice has damaged. I am wondering if anyone has had this done recently, by whom and the cost. Any help is appreciated.