things to do and places to go on the lake

[Sschaar]

Hello All.
This is my first post.
My name is Steve and I am going to be visiting the lake next week. We're trailering our boats up from New Jersey and I have been searching for things to do and places to go on the lake. Maps like Bizer's are great but their not as good as a locals eye. We have two boats with 6 young kids total and I'm looking for nice coves to stop and swim, maybe a beach to anchor off of and picnic. Maybe some medium size rocks for the kids to jump off of. I've been to the lake about twenty years ago and I remember how pristine it was.
Any good tips would be greatly appreciated. I'll be up during the week so I would guess it will be alittle less crowded on the Lake.
We're responsible boater with young kids. Just want to enjoy the lake and leave it the way we found it when we came.
How bout sharing a secret or two. I won't tell anybody.
Steve

[zantheman]

Hi Steve,

I'm also from New Jersey and heading up to Winni next week for our second trip to the lake. Last year we explored the bottom third of the lake including Wolfeboro and Alton Bay. Both towns were beautiful. Wolfeboro had great docks and was great to just wander around and check out the shops. We anchored up in Johnson Cove in the Winter Harbor area. What beautiful water. This year we are staying up at Center Harbor and exploring the northern parts of the lake including Meridith, Moultonboro and Weirs Beach. Wiers of course has the boardwalk and kids amusements. Last year we found Alton Bay a nice place to ski and tube. Others have told me that Saunders Bay and Braun Bay are good places to do likewise. The locals will know better.

Alex
Lake Hopatcong, NJ

[SIKSUKR]

Sanders(pronounced saunders)Bay would not be on my list of a good bay to ski or tube in.This place can be very busy with a lot of 30-40 ft cruisers from Mountainview yacht club coming and going,putting up some big wakes.On the other hand you might want that.Braun Bay can have a lot of boaters headed to and from the most popular rafting spot on the lake.Take this for what it's worth,you may or may not like these conditions.Of course,during the week things are a lot tamer.My advice is to go explore with map in hand and you will see first hand where the water and traffic is right for you.It's a big lake with a lot of different environments. ENJOY!! SS

[Fat Jack]

Originally Posted by Sschaar

Hello All.
This is my first post.
My name is Steve and I am going to be visiting the lake next week. We're trailering our boats up from New Jersey and I have been searching for things to do and places to go on the lake. Maps like Bizer's are great but their not as good as a locals eye. We have two boats with 6 young kids total and I'm looking for nice coves to stop and swim, maybe a beach to anchor off of and picnic. Maybe some medium size rocks for the kids to jump off of. I've been to the lake about twenty years ago and I remember how pristine it was.
Any good tips would be greatly appreciated. I'll be up during the week so I would guess it will be alittle less crowded on the Lake.
We're responsible boater with young kids. Just want to enjoy the lake and leave it the way we found it when we came.
How bout sharing a secret or two. I won't tell anybody.
Steve

Steve Schaar,
i notice that you've really had a lot to say in the two months since you first arrived. it's amazing how a guy from way down in NJ can come up here for a visit and start right in enforcing all of his rights to all of the residents and pushing all of the local people around with his tough talk. don't they have any lakes down in NJ? perhaps you will stay down there next summer.
FJ

[Sschaar]

My only issue is people who try to take away my rights for their own agenda. I've been pretty consistent about that. Winni is a beautiful public Lake . Whether your a resident, a boater, a tourist, or all of the above, the lake is suppose to be available to all.
From reading alot of these posts, shorefront residents, now that they own "their piece of the pie" , want to turn a beautiful public asset into their private playground.
I have a problem with that.
Sorry.

[Fat Jack]

Schaar,
YOUR rights? Lake Winnipesaukee isn't a “public asset” of NJ. Our great lakes are not federal property, they are set aside for us...the citizens, residents, and taxpayers of NH. You have visited NH only once or twice, starting 2 months ago. You pay no taxes here, own no property here, your boat is probably not even registered here, and yet you speak time after time about YOUR RIGHTS being infringed by us, the tax payers of NH, many of whom were probably here before you were born.

To show you for who you really are, here are excepts from your brief forum history;
You just joined on 8/3;

Originally Posted by Sschaar

This is my first post…I am going to be visiting...from New Jersey.

Within 1 DAY, 8/4, you are already lecturing us about the limits of our rights and the breadth of yours;

Originally Posted by Sschaar

why did you invest...on land attached to a public lake. You should have bought property in Northern New Hampishere or maybe Maine...The lake has been public property long before you came along. Get used to it.

Within 2 weeks, 8/16/04, you are already showing an attitude towards the locals;

Originally Posted by Sschaar

I got the general impression that the locals go out of there way to keep people from using the lake.

Within 3 weeks, 8/26/04, you are also lecturing the NH government for not spending our tax $ to purchase land for you;

Originally Posted by Sschaar

…who are you kidding. You bought property on a public lake. Get used to it...your state is selling you out. The goverment should be buying up these islands or condeming them so that they can remain the domain of the general public, to be used by the public, not for the rich and famous.

That same day, you CLAIMED our lake as your own. Luckily, you were not able to plant a NJ flag in its waters;

Originally Posted by Sschaar

the lake is public, I own it. I've always owned it. If I want to take my boat and park it right by somebody's kitchen window, I'm going to do it and I have every right to do it. If I want to snorkle, swim, drink beer, and listen to Led Zepplin or the Three Tenors I'm going to do it. Get used to it. It's a public lake…it's my right if I want to. You can't take it away from me. Why should I even consider compromise. I'm not interested in the island I just want to toss my anchor in the public lake.These Islands… should have never been sold in the first place.

Also that same day, you started showing your hate for us;

Originally Posted by Sschaar

I just hope everytime you look out the window and see boats swinging on anchor in your backyard, your blood pressure gets higher. Who knows maybe it will even ruin your day.

On 9/7 you start recruiting otehr illwishers;

Originally Posted by Sschaar

I think you should get every friend you have that has a boat and have them bring other friends that have a boat....it will give the shore residents something to think about all winter.

And again on 9/8;

Originally Posted by Sschaar

When they made their investment they knew the deal. You might even think about getting out your ice skates and snowmobiles. Hey maybe even have Timber Island 500 in Febuary. Acouple hundred snowmobiles, .

Where do you get off trying to spread such hate in NH from way down in NJ?
And again on 9/8;

Originally Posted by Sschaar

What right do they have.

On 9/9, from way down in ****, you tell us that WE should leave;

Originally Posted by Sschaar

I think you and your family are getting exactly what you paid for. Now you have to live with it. I understand Minnesota is the "Land Of a Thousand Lakes", maybe you could find a quiet island there.

That same day, you display your true purpose;

Originally Posted by Sschaar

All I know is that I can take my boat, launch it, and park it right in front of your window and legally there is nothing you can do about it. Just by the simple fact that it gets you aggravated makes me happy As far as I'm concerned your house and your dock, and your beach chair are ruining my view from my boat. I will always anchor my boat anywhere I legally can and I'm never going to change. If you try to intimadate me into leaving, I'll stay longer. If you use rude language, I'll laugh at you and show up the next day with my buddy and his boat. Get used to it.

And again on 9/9;

Originally Posted by Sschaar

You bought land attached to a very public lake…So really it comes down to the kindness of boaters like Belmont and myself to give you the space you so desire. So it's in your best interest to be nice to us. Maybe offer cold drinks and feed us grapes in the hot sun.

And again on 9/9;

Originally Posted by Sschaar

the indivduals who own lake front, or islands, feel they are entitled to more then they really are.

And again on 9/9;

Originally Posted by Sschaar

the boats will always be there and there is really nothing you can do about it. You can complain and get aggravated, or just resign yourself to the reality of the situation.

Why do you have such an axe to grind against the good people of NH who did not even ask you to come here?
On 9/10, you wrongly tell us that you (and all of your neighbors on ****?) are entitled to anchor overnight on OUR lake;

Originally Posted by Sschaar

Lakes are for the general public to use. Day use, night use, whatever… If they want to spend a night on their boat they should be able to.

On 9/22, you talk as if YOU are the long timer here. Amazingly, after only a few short weeks on the forum, and a week at the lake, you know all of our problems and faults …from way down in NJ. You have it all figured out;

Originally Posted by Sschaar

investor(s) buy some land, build some structure, change the looks of the community, create new traffic problems, and after it's all done, residents complain, how could they do this, it's not the same around here anymore. Yet not one of them went to the planning board meeting, questioned their local representation ( if they knew who they were ), or even talked to their neighbors about it. I'm sure glad you trust your elected officals to do the right thing.

On 9/27, you show the same contempt for our favored wildlife. Do people in NJ even know what a loon looks like?;

Originally Posted by Sschaar

It's just a duck. And if you really cared about the ducks, sorry, Loons, maybe we should ban rafting and you should move out …Give em real piece and quiet.

On 10/3, you even start on the other boaters. Who do you side with?;

Originally Posted by Sschaar

If you want to enjoy your toy take it out in the ocean. Earth is seventy five percent ocean. I would think you could find a quiet little corner to call your own. If you had the worst summer of boating ever, I guess that means mine was better then I thought it was.

On 10/7, you switch back from insulting the loons to defending them and insulting people who defend them.;

Originally Posted by Sschaar

people living in homes on these islands, driving their boats back and forth to the mainland, walking and driving ATV's around the island, and installing swim platforms… are only out to protect their own interests and their using the loon issue to sell it…they want to restrict everybody else from crowding their space and they'll go to any extreme to accomplish it.

On 10/10, you go back to insulting the NH government along with the taxpayers and threaten to harass;

Originally Posted by Sschaar

The issue here is privatization of a public lake. Goverment, in their constant thirst for more money keeps on selling off, rezoning, or restricting land use to settle it's cravings for more money. Neither you or any other of your shorefront landbarons can change that. t….next time you look out your kitchen window and there's a pontoon anchored right outside with three screaming kids and a wife yelling at some poor guy, wave to me.

I see you, Mr. Schaar****, as a mere instigator…nothing else. You know NOTHING about this area, us, our government, our intentions, or our environment. You are bored down in NJ, have probably been kicked off all the forums down there, and are just shopping for trouble. I don’t understand why the Webmaster doesn’t block your antagonistic posts. I don’t know how **** puts up with you. Are all of the people from NJ like you? Isn’t there anything down there to occupy your time? We are generally pretty amicable folks up here in NH, why don’t you take your flame-throwing to some other forum? Find some puddle-sized polluted lake in NJ that you really do own, anchor under peoples windows there, and throw flames and names at them. Leave us alone.