Vandals Threaten Snowmobile Access

mcdude · 05-23-2005, 08:09 AM

From the following department: "I'll do whatever I damn well please and don't give a damn about how my actions may affect others" - What is wrong with these people?
See CITIZEN ARTICLE
If they are caught they should make monetary restitution and be forced to groom the trails each winter.

ITD · 05-23-2005, 08:49 AM

This would be a case where a portable video camera or two strategically placed with motion detectors would catch these yo-yos in a few weeks. Restitution and steep fines would probably stop them.

chipj29 · 05-23-2005, 09:15 AM

That is pathetic. I would guess that it is probably people who have been 4-wheeling in that area for years, and took exception to the gates being put up. Why can't they take NO for an answer?
It used to be that posted signs would keep unwanted traffic out of an area. Nowadays steel gates don't even work.

SIKSUKR · 05-23-2005, 11:36 AM

I could see where one of those camaras that are used to photograph wildlife might work.The shutter is tripped when someone/something crosses through an area.Get-em. SS

MAXUM · 05-24-2005, 12:07 PM

Boy reading that just gets my blood boiling

As an avid snowmobilier I'm royally mad as it takes lots of money and the free time of club members to provide and maintain the trail network. In addition to that keeping trails open has become more difficult without this sort of thing happening. Here we have nothing at all having to so with snowmobiling potentially having the effect of trail closure.

On the flip side I belong to a local 4WD club and we have also battled the same thing as well. This gives us all a very bad reputation even though every organized club out there are very conscience of potential impacts wheeling on any property will have. As such all organized events are very carefully monitored so this exact thing won't happen.

This is a case of a few idiots (no offense to the idiots out there) who simply have no regard for anything but thier own good time. I hope those responsible are not only caught, but have to face steep fines and pay for the damage done if not thrown in the can (jail) for a while. Shoot I'm all for them loosing thier vehicles as well if they are conducting themselves in this manner. Clearly they are not mature enough to own a 4WD.

BroadHopper · 05-24-2005, 12:38 PM

Hey Maxum,

How can I get in touch with the 4WD club. I may be interested in joining.

Major problem · 05-24-2005, 01:35 PM

The same thing happened to multi-use trails in Alton at the end of April. I just joined the New Durham valley ATV Club and haven't had a chance to ride their trails yet. Everyone was waiting until the end of "Mud Season" to go out and do trail maintenance in preparation for opening them up for the season. The following is an excerpt from the club website as to what they found:

"ATV CLUB OFFICERS WENT THROUGH THE TRAILS WITH THE OWNER AGENT. HE WAS NOT HAPPY WITH WHAT WE FOUND!!!!! SOME PEOPLE HAVE BEEN RIDING 4-WHEELERS, TRUCKS, AND TRAIL BIKES, ON THE TRAILS. GATES HAVE BEEN CUT OPEN, AND A CAMP CABIN WAS BROKEN INTO. THE TRAIL UP MOUNT CAVARTY HAS RUTS 15-20" DEEP."

The landowner was understandably upset but he has granted the ATV club the chance to repair the damage. There has already been one work party and it will require a lot more work from unselfish volunteers and heavy equiptment to restore those trails. The club has received help from non-members, trail bike clubs and snowmobilers. There are a lot of very angry people that would like to catch these criminals before the police do.

mcdude · 05-31-2005, 08:13 AM

click here for....UPDATE

trfour · 05-31-2005, 09:11 PM

Land owner or State, snowmobile access to the many Buisnesses at Weirs Beach, in winter.... "Bears hibernate, the Rest of Us, Do Not".........

My thanks to you, for giving Laconia, and or NH., A CLUE!

Love,
T 1776, Boston, MA.

05-23-2005, 08:09 AM	#1
mcdude Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Rock Haven Lake - West Newfield, ME Posts: 5,367 Thanks: 374 Thanked 1,057 Times in 495 Posts	Vandals Threaten Snowmobile Access From the following department: "I'll do whatever I damn well please and don't give a damn about how my actions may affect others" - What is wrong with these people? See CITIZEN ARTICLE If they are caught they should make monetary restitution and be forced to groom the trails each winter.

05-23-2005, 09:15 AM	#3
chipj29 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bow Posts: 1,874 Thanks: 521 Thanked 308 Times in 162 Posts	Pathetic That is pathetic. I would guess that it is probably people who have been 4-wheeling in that area for years, and took exception to the gates being put up. Why can't they take NO for an answer? It used to be that posted signs would keep unwanted traffic out of an area. Nowadays steel gates don't even work.

05-23-2005, 11:36 AM	#4
SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	I could see where one of those camaras that are used to photograph wildlife might work.The shutter is tripped when someone/something crosses through an area.Get-em. SS __________________ SIKSUKR

05-24-2005, 12:38 PM	#6
BroadHopper Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Laconia NH Posts: 5,615 Thanks: 3,245 Thanked 1,115 Times in 801 Posts	4WD club Hey Maxum, How can I get in touch with the 4WD club. I may be interested in joining. __________________ Someday may never be an actual day.

05-24-2005, 01:35 PM	#7
Major problem Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Brockton,Ma, N Conway & Guilford,NH Posts: 53 Thanks: 24 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts	Not an isolated incident !!! The same thing happened to multi-use trails in Alton at the end of April. I just joined the New Durham valley ATV Club and haven't had a chance to ride their trails yet. Everyone was waiting until the end of "Mud Season" to go out and do trail maintenance in preparation for opening them up for the season. The following is an excerpt from the club website as to what they found: "ATV CLUB OFFICERS WENT THROUGH THE TRAILS WITH THE OWNER AGENT. HE WAS NOT HAPPY WITH WHAT WE FOUND!!!!! SOME PEOPLE HAVE BEEN RIDING 4-WHEELERS, TRUCKS, AND TRAIL BIKES, ON THE TRAILS. GATES HAVE BEEN CUT OPEN, AND A CAMP CABIN WAS BROKEN INTO. THE TRAIL UP MOUNT CAVARTY HAS RUTS 15-20" DEEP." The landowner was understandably upset but he has granted the ATV club the chance to repair the damage. There has already been one work party and it will require a lot more work from unselfish volunteers and heavy equiptment to restore those trails. The club has received help from non-members, trail bike clubs and snowmobilers. There are a lot of very angry people that would like to catch these criminals before the police do.

05-23-2005, 08:49 AM	#2
ITD Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonboro, NH Posts: 2,941 Thanks: 481 Thanked 696 Times in 390 Posts	This would be a case where a portable video camera or two strategically placed with motion detectors would catch these yo-yos in a few weeks. Restitution and steep fines would probably stop them.

05-24-2005, 12:07 PM	#5
MAXUM Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Kuna ID Posts: 2,755 Thanks: 246 Thanked 1,942 Times in 802 Posts	Boy reading that just gets my blood boiling As an avid snowmobilier I'm royally mad as it takes lots of money and the free time of club members to provide and maintain the trail network. In addition to that keeping trails open has become more difficult without this sort of thing happening. Here we have nothing at all having to so with snowmobiling potentially having the effect of trail closure. On the flip side I belong to a local 4WD club and we have also battled the same thing as well. This gives us all a very bad reputation even though every organized club out there are very conscience of potential impacts wheeling on any property will have. As such all organized events are very carefully monitored so this exact thing won't happen. This is a case of a few idiots (no offense to the idiots out there) who simply have no regard for anything but thier own good time. I hope those responsible are not only caught, but have to face steep fines and pay for the damage done if not thrown in the can (jail) for a while. Shoot I'm all for them loosing thier vehicles as well if they are conducting themselves in this manner. Clearly they are not mature enough to own a 4WD.

05-31-2005, 08:13 AM	#8
mcdude Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Rock Haven Lake - West Newfield, ME Posts: 5,367 Thanks: 374 Thanked 1,057 Times in 495 Posts	Update click here for....UPDATE

05-31-2005, 09:11 PM	#9
trfour Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lakes, Central NH. and Dallas/Fort Worth TX. Posts: 3,694 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 3,069 Thanked 472 Times in 236 Posts	Thank you McDude, and we also need.... Land owner or State, snowmobile access to the many Buisnesses at Weirs Beach, in winter.... "Bears hibernate, the Rest of Us, Do Not"......... My thanks to you, for giving Laconia, and or NH., A CLUE! Love, T 1776, Boston, MA. __________________ *trfour* Always Remember, The Best Safety Device In The Boat, or on a PWC Snowmobile etc., Is YOU! Safe sledding tips and much more; http://www.snowmobile.org/snowmobiling-safety.html Last edited by trfour; 05-31-2005 at 09:35 PM. Reason: I forgot to cruise the T.