Ceramic Coating / Diamond Shine

Formula260SS · 09-08-2019, 07:45 PM

After purchasing a new Whaler I decided to show our Formula some love, it's 19 years old and the Gel Coat had been fairly well maintained but time certainly took it's toll. After looking at a friends boat Diamond Shine buffed and ceramic coated (gel coat dead as a door nail) I was shocked how well it came out. John had been telling me about Ceramic but after seeing it I dragged the ole girl over.

Needless to say DS did a fantastic job cleaning, buffing and applying the Ceramic - It looks freakin brand new, so good I didn't put it back in the water. Today I was in the driveway cleaning off the typical dust and debris, I was amazed how easily it cleaned off with water and microfiber. After a quick coat with the Ceramic detailer spray it's shinning even more.

Robin told me the coating lasts 2-3 years and everything on the interweb says the same, even longer if you maintain it well. Time will certainly tell but if this works out like I'm hearing it's the only way to go for anyone who likes a clean boat. The new Whaler goes over soon, I can't wait to see what a new surface looks like with this stuff.

It's not inexpensive (depending on prep) but from what I can tell well worth it, fantastic job from Diamond Shine again.

SAB1 · 09-08-2019, 07:52 PM

Finishing up my third season after John and his crew did my boat. Still looks great and I use that spray detailer frequently. Ishoot recommend Diamond Shine and although a bit more than I was looking to spend it was worth every cent.

iw8surf · 09-09-2019, 06:15 AM

Have been using Diamond Shine for my boat annually since I purchased it. For a wake boat the sparkly gel coat continues to look brand new year after year. Id definitely recommend them.

Phantom · 09-09-2019, 06:17 AM

Another Vote for Ceramic coating !!

We just had our 26' Crown Bowrider done by Getty Shine ………… our is classic Black on white and because of the sun beating down past the canvas the black on the bow had turned to a "chalky" grayish color along with other sections mid ship & in places along the freeboard.

As Formula states --- We bought a new boat!!

Not knocking Diamond Shine (never used them) but we had a great experience with John Getty / Getty Shine …. picked the boat up on one of their trailers from our Marina and took it to their shop mid week as we were having it completely detailed as well. "In for a penny - in for a pound

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joey2665 · 09-09-2019, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Phantom

Another Vote for Ceramic coating !!

We just had our 26' Crown Bowrider done by Getty Shine ………… our is classic Black on white and because of the sun beating down past the canvas the black on the bow had turned to a "chalky" grayish color along with other sections mid ship & in places along the freeboard.

As Formula states --- We bought a new boat!!

Not knocking Diamond Shine (never used them) but we had a great experience with John Getty / Getty Shine …. picked the boat up on one of their trailers from our Marina and took it to their shop mid week as we were having it completely detailed as well. "In for a penny - in for a pound

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Would you mind sharing the cost?

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Phantom · 09-09-2019, 08:29 AM

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joey2665 · 09-09-2019, 09:23 AM

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Got it. Thank you for the information I have a 2017 310 SLX bowrider and would like to get it done before next season.

Phantom · 09-09-2019, 09:33 AM

I am confident that the rates between Getty & Diamond are competitive -- so, given equal recommendations of both places it's really a question of who can schedule it in for you.

Descant · 09-09-2019, 12:32 PM

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Would you mind sharing the cost?

On the phone, they said $100-$125 a linear foot for a sportboat/runabout. Obviously, other services may be added, such as transport/deliver and it depends on the age & condition, previous wet sanding. That's about $2400- $3000+/- for my 24' cuddy. Guaranteed for three years, so you don't have to pay for annual wax/buff, etc, just wipe and clean after use.

Phantom · 09-09-2019, 03:45 PM

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On the phone, they said $100-$125 a linear foot for a sportboat/runabout. Obviously, other services may be added, such as transport/deliver and it depends on the age & condition, previous wet sanding. That's about $2400- $3000+/- for my 24' cuddy. Guaranteed for three years, so you don't have to pay for annual wax/buff, etc, just wipe and clean after use.

I had passed my actual cost over to Joey in PM ….. but your certainly in the right ballpark (perhaps a tish high) but as you state - depends on individual boat condition, the amount of wet sanding needed, and if that will cure all gouges/dock swipes depending on depth of the scratch !

I know I got a showroom boat back in my slip & am QUITE pleased.

Formula260SS · 09-09-2019, 04:10 PM

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I had passed my actual cost over to Joey in PM ….. but your certainly in the right ballpark (perhaps a tish high) but as you state - depends on individual boat condition, the amount of wet sanding needed, and if that will cure all gouges/dock swipes depending on depth of the scratch !

I know I got a showroom boat back in my slip & am QUITE pleased.

I think the range is correct BUT depends on the prep needed and other things they do at the same time. I got a full interior / engine bay detail as well.

I think the true test is how long it lasts, we already have one person on year three with good results. I would say anything beyond that is gravy, what are we paying for buff / wax jobs $800.00 - $1,000.00?? Remember a boat can only be buffed so many times before the gelcoat gets too thin. This was a factor for me as I plan on keeping the boat a lot longer.

Formula260SS · 09-09-2019, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Formula260SS

I think the range is correct BUT depends on the prep needed and other things they do at the same time. I got a full interior / engine bay detail as well.

I think the true test is how long it lasts, we already have one person on year three with good results. I would say anything beyond that is gravy, what are we paying for buff / wax jobs $800.00 - $1,000.00?? Remember a boat can only be buffed so many times before the gelcoat gets too thin. This was a factor for me as I plan on keeping the boat a lot longer.

One more thing - with Ceramic when it starts fading you go back for another coating before it needs buffing again and that is much less expensive. The money is in the prep not the ceramic

Lakeboater · 09-09-2019, 06:05 PM

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One more thing - with Ceramic when it starts fading you go back for another coating before it needs buffing again and that is much less expensive. The money is in the prep not the ceramic

I thought the actual ceramic coating or liquid was fairly expensive itself. I don’t mean at any of the mentioned detailers just in general.

Formula260SS · 09-09-2019, 07:03 PM

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I thought the actual ceramic coating or liquid was fairly expensive itself. I don’t mean at any of the mentioned detailers just in general.

What I found online was the Ceramic to coat my boat was about $400.00. Based on the cost it's pretty minimal overall comparatively. I was admiring the finish again tonight, I love it. Considering taking a stab at the Harley myself.

TiltonBB · 09-09-2019, 08:57 PM

I was told by one of the detail people mentioned above that it costs $1,000 for a 5 ounce bottle. I'd hate to drop the bottle!

Descant · 09-09-2019, 09:18 PM

If you have to ask...

Descant · 02-14-2020, 02:11 PM

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If you have to ask...

A few days after this post I called Diamond Shine. They came out and looked at both my boats, and quoted. The "Viking" is a 1994 Sea Ray Overnighter. In reasonable condition for its age and I'm not a buff and wax guy, so it ended up at $125/foot. For this, they picked up and delivered before and after the work, cleaned inside and out, washed the canvas and ceramic coated. The boat was in valet with a plastic cover which they removed and then reinstalled.
Everything was done with Robin by phone. I'll plan to meet them in the spring. Just before the NE Boat Show, she called to confirm dates, etc. When the work was done two days ago, she sent pictures. The boat looks FANTASTIC. Hard to believe it is 26 years old. Loved the contact, the convenience and the quality of work.

My other boat is a small Apreamare with a lot of woodwork, so it's going next door to Hi-Gloss Boat Restorations in March. Strip, clean, 6-8 coats of varnish and then I expect to put it on the market. PM me if you're interested in a beautiful Italian cabin cruiser.

AC2717 · 02-14-2020, 02:18 PM

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would you mind sharing pricing with me as well in PM

Descant · 02-14-2020, 09:55 PM

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would you mind sharing pricing with me as well in PM

No need for PM. It was $125/foot. They did a great job and it's obvious they are proud of their work, so no need to be secretive. As noted above, this included pick up and delivery (300 yards?) and was in February when the scheduling was good for them. I doubt you can get scheduled in during May/June. 24' x $125=$3000.
If you're asking about the Apreamare, we haven't fully decided scope of work. For the initial strip bleach and varnish, Hi-Gloss came over and gave an estimate. In that discussion, we added some other possible wok to be determined when the boat is in the shop. PM on that boat if you need more detail.

09-08-2019, 07:45 PM	#1
Formula260SS Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NH Posts: 384 Thanks: 11 Thanked 76 Times in 51 Posts	Ceramic Coating / Diamond Shine After purchasing a new Whaler I decided to show our Formula some love, it's 19 years old and the Gel Coat had been fairly well maintained but time certainly took it's toll. After looking at a friends boat Diamond Shine buffed and ceramic coated (gel coat dead as a door nail) I was shocked how well it came out. John had been telling me about Ceramic but after seeing it I dragged the ole girl over. Needless to say DS did a fantastic job cleaning, buffing and applying the Ceramic - It looks freakin brand new, so good I didn't put it back in the water. Today I was in the driveway cleaning off the typical dust and debris, I was amazed how easily it cleaned off with water and microfiber. After a quick coat with the Ceramic detailer spray it's shinning even more. Robin told me the coating lasts 2-3 years and everything on the interweb says the same, even longer if you maintain it well. Time will certainly tell but if this works out like I'm hearing it's the only way to go for anyone who likes a clean boat. The new Whaler goes over soon, I can't wait to see what a new surface looks like with this stuff. It's not inexpensive (depending on prep) but from what I can tell well worth it, fantastic job from Diamond Shine again.

09-09-2019, 06:17 AM	#4
Phantom Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Berlin, Ma / Gilford Posts: 1,934 Thanks: 450 Thanked 605 Times in 341 Posts	Another Vote for Ceramic coating !! We just had our 26' Crown Bowrider done by Getty Shine ………… our is classic Black on white and because of the sun beating down past the canvas the black on the bow had turned to a "chalky" grayish color along with other sections mid ship & in places along the freeboard. As Formula states --- We bought a new boat!! Not knocking Diamond Shine (never used them) but we had a great experience with John Getty / Getty Shine …. picked the boat up on one of their trailers from our Marina and took it to their shop mid week as we were having it completely detailed as well. "In for a penny - in for a pound ". __________________ *A bad day on the Big Lake (although I've never had one) - Still beats a day at the office!!*

09-09-2019, 08:29 AM	#6
Phantom Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Berlin, Ma / Gilford Posts: 1,934 Thanks: 450 Thanked 605 Times in 341 Posts	Check PM's __________________ *A bad day on the Big Lake (although I've never had one) - Still beats a day at the office!!*

09-09-2019, 09:33 AM	#8
Phantom Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Berlin, Ma / Gilford Posts: 1,934 Thanks: 450 Thanked 605 Times in 341 Posts	I am confident that the rates between Getty & Diamond are competitive -- so, given equal recommendations of both places it's really a question of who can schedule it in for you. __________________ *A bad day on the Big Lake (although I've never had one) - Still beats a day at the office!!*

09-09-2019, 09:18 PM	#16
Descant Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Merrimack and Welch Island Posts: 4,348 Thanks: 1,341 Thanked 1,622 Times in 1,054 Posts	Cost? If you have to ask...

09-08-2019, 07:52 PM	#2
SAB1 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Tuftonboro Posts: 1,230 Thanks: 190 Thanked 319 Times in 234 Posts	Finishing up my third season after John and his crew did my boat. Still looks great and I use that spray detailer frequently. Ishoot recommend Diamond Shine and although a bit more than I was looking to spend it was worth every cent.

09-09-2019, 06:15 AM	#3
iw8surf Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 191 Thanks: 12 Thanked 94 Times in 55 Posts	Have been using Diamond Shine for my boat annually since I purchased it. For a wake boat the sparkly gel coat continues to look brand new year after year. Id definitely recommend them.

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