Go Back   Winnipesaukee Forum > Winnipesaukee Forums > General Discussion
Home Forums Gallery Webcams Blogs YouTube Channel Classifieds Register FAQ Members List Donate Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-05-2025, 03:18 PM   #1
phoenix
Senior Member
 
phoenix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: phoenix and moultonboro
Posts: 1,567
Thanks: 63
Thanked 278 Times in 196 Posts
Default moultonboro tax rate

Did the selectmen approve a 2025 tax rate last night?
__________________
it's tough to make predictions specially about the future
phoenix is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to phoenix For This Useful Post:
secondcurve (11-17-2025)
Old 11-05-2025, 03:43 PM   #2
tummyman
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Moultonborough
Posts: 849
Thanks: 261
Thanked 700 Times in 248 Posts
Default

$5.33 per thousand...approved by State.
tummyman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2025, 04:24 PM   #3
thinkxingu
Senior Member
 
thinkxingu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 6,446
Thanks: 1,182
Thanked 2,146 Times in 1,330 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tummyman View Post
$5.33 per thousand...approved by State.
Happen to know what it was last year? I can look it up later, if not.

Sent from my SM-S931U using Tapatalk
thinkxingu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2025, 05:03 PM   #4
fatlazyless
Senior Member
 
fatlazyless's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 8,969
Blog Entries: 1
Thanks: 310
Thanked 1,061 Times in 774 Posts
Question Moultonborough, N.H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by thinkxingu View Post
Happen to know what it was last year? I can look it up later, if not.

Sent from my SM-S931U using Tapatalk
Last year in 2024 the Moultonborough combined total tax rate was $5.65 per thousand assessed value ..... according to ...

http://www.revenue.nh.gov/sites/g/fi...-tax-rates.pdf .... which is a totally wicked LOW RATE for a N.H. town and must make all the other N.H. towns extremely jealous on Moultonborough.

So, how does Moultonborough do it, to have such an incredibly LOW fabulous tax rate of 5.33/thousand for this year, 2025? ......

And, no wonder the Moultonborough Thrift Store has such good stuff - cheap ...... M-boro residents pay next to nuth'n in property taxes!
__________________
.... Banned for life from local thrift store!
fatlazyless is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2025, 05:13 PM   #5
LIforrelaxin
Senior Member
 
LIforrelaxin's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Texas, Lake Ray Hubbard and NH, Long Island Winnipesaukee
Posts: 2,931
Thanks: 1,058
Thanked 902 Times in 532 Posts
Default

Well this is some good news.... of course not as good as it could have been because the valuation of my property continues to climb... so in reality the town has a lower tax rate but likely the same if not more revenue.....
__________________
Life is about how much time you can spend relaxing... I do it on an island that isn't really an island.....
LIforrelaxin is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to LIforrelaxin For This Useful Post:
ACME on the Broads (11-08-2025)
Sponsored Links
Old 11-05-2025, 06:27 PM   #6
TomC
Senior Member
 
TomC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Lakes Region
Posts: 749
Thanks: 30
Thanked 143 Times in 92 Posts
Default

M'boro has tons of shoreline, both island and mainland, on exclusive Winni and Squam, plus more on Kanasatka, Lees Pond, Wakonda, and so on... Those high value parcels push the total assessed value in town way up. Thus the rate can be lower of course...

see for yourself: https://www.revenue.nh.gov/sites/g/f...king-order.pdf
TomC is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to TomC For This Useful Post:
VitaBene (11-06-2025)
Old 11-05-2025, 07:42 PM   #7
John Mercier
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 3,578
Thanks: 3
Thanked 637 Times in 524 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LIforrelaxin View Post
Well this is some good news.... of course not as good as it could have been because the valuation of my property continues to climb... so in reality the town has a lower tax rate but likely the same if not more revenue.....
Doesn't work that way.

The budget is decided by the voters locally, and representatives at the county level.

The rate is based on what the voters and their representatives have decided to spend.
John Mercier is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to John Mercier For This Useful Post:
ITD (11-06-2025)
Old 11-05-2025, 08:17 PM   #8
longislander
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Moultonborough
Posts: 556
Thanks: 49
Thanked 103 Times in 78 Posts
Default

Tax bill = assessment X tax rate

2025 rate is the second lowest in 37 years!

Moultonborough Tax Rates
Total = Muni + County +State Ed. +Local Ed.

2025 $5.33 $1.68 $0.75 $1.05 $1.85
2024 $5.65 $1.92 $0.77 $1.15 $1.81
2023 $5.70 $1.86 $0.88 $1.19 $1.77
2022 $4.78 $1.25 $0.80 $0.97 $1.76
2021 $6.98 $2.33 $1.01 $1.67 $1.97
2020 $7.13 $2.11 $1.15 $1.78 $2.09
2019 $7.15 $2.18 $1.10 $1.96 $1.91
2018 $7.72 $2.44 $1.23 $2.10 $1.95
2017 $8.22 $2.46 $1.35 $2.29 $2.12
2016 $8.74 $2.77 $1.43 $2.28 $2.26
2015 $9.01 $2.85 $1.42 $2.54 $2.20
2014 $8.86 $2.85 $1.22 $2.53 $2.26
2013 $8.69 $2.77 $1.13 $2.66 $2.13
2012 $8.56 $2.73 $1.11 $2.52 $2.20
2011 $8.33 $2.77 $1.06 $1.97 $2.53
2010 $8.12 $2.63 $1.05 $2.32 $2.12
2009 $7.70 $2.22 $1.03 $2.31 $2.14
2008 $7.66 $2.32 $0.97 $2.21 $2.16
2007 $6.99 $2.07 $0.79 $2.01 $2.12
2006 $6.71 $1.89 $0.75 $2.34 $1.73
2005 $6.79 $2.05 $0.77 $2.58 $1.39
2004 $7.99 $1.66 $0.78 $2.87 $2.68
2003 $12.18 $2.35 $1.14 $5.15 $3.54
2002 $12.11 $2.33 $0.89 $5.55 $3.34
2001 $10.06 $1.99 $0.74 $4.63 $2.70
2000 $9.55 $1.89 $0.61 $4.69 $2.36
1999 $14.58 $2.72 $0.92 $3.80 $7.14
1998 $10.24 $2.92 $0.94 $6.38
1997 $9.69 $2.66 $0.94 $6.09
1996 $9.24 $2.57 $0.90 $5.77
1995 $10.80 $3.20 $0.98 $6.62
1994 $10.56 $3.14 $0.99 $6.43
1993 $10.24 $3.14 $0.98 $6.12
1992 $9.70 $2.64 $1.06 $6.00
1991 $9.37 $2.75 $0.91 $5.71
1990 $9.67 $2.91 $0.91 $5.85
1989 $8.61 $2.56 $0.87 $5.18
longislander is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to longislander For This Useful Post:
TheTimeTraveler (11-05-2025)
Old 11-06-2025, 09:00 AM   #9
AC2717
Senior Member
 
AC2717's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Maynard, MA & Paugus Bay
Posts: 2,588
Thanks: 756
Thanked 358 Times in 269 Posts
Default

rate does not matter until valuations come in
__________________
Capt. of the "No Worries"
AC2717 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to AC2717 For This Useful Post:
Biggd (11-06-2025), ITD (11-06-2025)
Old 11-06-2025, 09:20 AM   #10
Biggd
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Waltham Ma./Meredith NH
Posts: 4,278
Thanks: 2,322
Thanked 1,231 Times in 789 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AC2717 View Post
rate does not matter until valuations come in
One thing you can be sure of, waterfront properties will pay the bulk of the taxes. The value of those properties has climbed at a faster pace than off lake properties.
Biggd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2025, 09:59 AM   #11
longislander
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Moultonborough
Posts: 556
Thanks: 49
Thanked 103 Times in 78 Posts
Default

Quote:
rate does not matter until valuations come in
... and when do valuations/assessments come in? Moultonborough uses the 20% per year method, not every 5 years.

https://gc.nh.gov/rsa/html/V/75/75-8-a.htm

There are pros and cons to either method.
longislander is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2025, 10:25 AM   #12
LIforrelaxin
Senior Member
 
LIforrelaxin's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Texas, Lake Ray Hubbard and NH, Long Island Winnipesaukee
Posts: 2,931
Thanks: 1,058
Thanked 902 Times in 532 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by John Mercier View Post
Doesn't work that way.

The budget is decided by the voters locally, and representatives at the county level.

The rate is based on what the voters and their representatives have decided to spend.
John, Yes I know exactly what goes into setting the tax rate..... But it doesn't negate what I stated.... because when you distill the entire picture you see this equality:

(Total Assed Property Values X tax Rate) = Money available to spend

(Town Budget + School Budget + County Budget + State Budget) = Money needed

Money Needed == Money Available to Spend.....

With that said if

current year Total Assed Property Values > Prior year Total Assed Property Values
and
Money Needed < (current year total Assed Property Value * Previous Year Tax Rate)

than

Previous year Tax Rate > Current Year Tax Rate

so it is possible

(Previous year Property Value * Previous year tax Rate) =< (current year Property Value * current year tax Rate)

You are focused on the process of how it all works..... Which is great, but the Mathematics of it all are a different story.... a lower Tax Rate doesn't mean that your taxes have gone down....

What the lakes region continues to rid on, is over inflated home values allowing for lower tax rates......
__________________
Life is about how much time you can spend relaxing... I do it on an island that isn't really an island.....
LIforrelaxin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2025, 10:36 AM   #13
VitaBene
Senior Member
 
VitaBene's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Moultonborough
Posts: 3,621
Thanks: 1,685
Thanked 1,656 Times in 857 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggd View Post
One thing you can be sure of, waterfront properties will pay the bulk of the taxes. The value of those properties has climbed at a faster pace than off lake properties.
I thank all of you hard working waterfront property owners!
VitaBene is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2025, 10:49 AM   #14
ITD
Senior Member
 
ITD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Moultonboro, NH
Posts: 2,942
Thanks: 483
Thanked 700 Times in 391 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by VitaBene View Post
I thank all of you hard working waterfront property owners!
You're welcome.

It's all about what the town meeting levies. Tax rate is the result of that and the total assessed property value.
ITD is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to ITD For This Useful Post:
VitaBene (11-06-2025)
Old 11-06-2025, 12:29 PM   #15
longislander
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Moultonborough
Posts: 556
Thanks: 49
Thanked 103 Times in 78 Posts
Default

Quote:
I thank all of you hard working waterfront property owners!
Especially those that cannot vote at NH town meetings!!!
longislander is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2025, 12:54 PM   #16
John Mercier
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 3,578
Thanks: 3
Thanked 637 Times in 524 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LIforrelaxin View Post
John, Yes I know exactly what goes into setting the tax rate..... But it doesn't negate what I stated.... because when you distill the entire picture you see this equality:

(Total Assed Property Values X tax Rate) = Money available to spend

(Town Budget + School Budget + County Budget + State Budget) = Money needed

Money Needed == Money Available to Spend.....

With that said if

current year Total Assed Property Values > Prior year Total Assed Property Values
and
Money Needed < (current year total Assed Property Value * Previous Year Tax Rate)

than

Previous year Tax Rate > Current Year Tax Rate

so it is possible

(Previous year Property Value * Previous year tax Rate) =< (current year Property Value * current year tax Rate)

You are focused on the process of how it all works..... Which is great, but the Mathematics of it all are a different story.... a lower Tax Rate doesn't mean that your taxes have gone down....

What the lakes region continues to rid on, is over inflated home values allowing for lower tax rates......
We don't use money available to spend except in cities with tax caps.
In a town, that number is as high or low as the voters decide.
John Mercier is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2025, 02:53 PM   #17
fatlazyless
Senior Member
 
fatlazyless's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 8,969
Blog Entries: 1
Thanks: 310
Thanked 1,061 Times in 774 Posts
Question lakes region indoor swim facility

Located in White River Junction, Vermont ..... www.uvacswim.org ..... across the Connecticut River from Lebanon, New Hampshire, there's no indoor swim facility like this in central N.H.

Would be nice for the new Laconia Village construction to include a swim facility because the voters in Moultonborough have voted NO on two different warrant articles in two different years.

Just think ...... on a cold January morning you could attend a lesson ... www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pafO09hasE ..... on the elementary back stroke in a 82-degree Olympic sized 25-meter swim pool!
__________________
.... Banned for life from local thrift store!

Last edited by fatlazyless; 11-06-2025 at 04:17 PM.
fatlazyless is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2025, 06:03 PM   #18
LIforrelaxin
Senior Member
 
LIforrelaxin's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Texas, Lake Ray Hubbard and NH, Long Island Winnipesaukee
Posts: 2,931
Thanks: 1,058
Thanked 902 Times in 532 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fatlazyless View Post

Just think ...... on a cold January morning you could attend a lesson ... www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pafO09hasE ..... on the elementary back stroke in a 82-degree Olympic sized 25-meter swim pool!
As I spoke up about the proposed Moultonborough pool once before I will do so again here.... it was most definitely not a "Olympic" sized pool.....

- it was only 5 lanes, what that isn't even a short course competition sized pool for High School where 6 lanes is the standard...... let alone to be considered "Olympic"

- It was a short course 25m Pool.... The Olympics and most big competitions are long course 50m Pools...

- Some of the claims the planning committee made regarding the pool where wrong and misleading,

Anyways I just went

Sorry FLL you hit a sore spot
__________________
Life is about how much time you can spend relaxing... I do it on an island that isn't really an island.....
LIforrelaxin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2025, 08:34 AM   #19
rander7823
Senior Member
 
rander7823's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 304
Thanks: 556
Thanked 40 Times in 24 Posts
Default Its all in the math

Quote:
Originally Posted by AC2717 View Post
rate does not matter until valuations come in
1/2 the rate double the valuation. You need both numbers to see if your taxes are going up.
rander7823 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2025, 10:00 AM   #20
longislander
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Moultonborough
Posts: 556
Thanks: 49
Thanked 103 Times in 78 Posts
Default

Quote:
You need both numbers to see if your taxes are going up.
Correct!

Tax bill = (Muni rate + County rate +State Ed. rate +Local Ed.rate) X Assesment

The towns control the municipal rate.
The county controls the county rate.
The school district controls the Local education rate
The state controls the State Education rate.

NH DRA

Equalization
Equalization is a process carried out annually by municipalities and the New Hampshire Department of Revenue Administration (DRA) to ensure common property tax burdens are apportioned fairly and equitably among taxpayers. Through the equalization and ratio study processes, the total equalized valuation of each municipality is determined and used to apportion county taxes, cooperative school taxes, if applicable, and the state education property tax.
longislander is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to longislander For This Useful Post:
jeffk (11-08-2025)
Old 11-08-2025, 07:32 AM   #21
tummyman
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Moultonborough
Posts: 849
Thanks: 261
Thanked 700 Times in 248 Posts
Default

And if you want to see how much the local schools are impacting your taxes and tax rate, add the local education and state tax rates together, as the local school rate is their local total expenses LESS the money from the state. The combined total of the two rates is the actual cost of education in your community, as the local education rate is net of the state money. It is all about the math !!
tummyman is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to tummyman For This Useful Post:
GodSmile (11-08-2025)
Old 11-08-2025, 08:37 AM   #22
John Mercier
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 3,578
Thanks: 3
Thanked 637 Times in 524 Posts
Default

That may not work in the future as the Legislature is looking to adjust to the court ruling on education.
John Mercier is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2025, 07:05 PM   #23
phoenix
Senior Member
 
phoenix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: phoenix and moultonboro
Posts: 1,567
Thanks: 63
Thanked 278 Times in 196 Posts
Default

i just got my tax bill but what was interesting is they stratified taxes paid by home size. 28% of homes are assessed at 1M+ and that group pays 75% of taxes. Bernie would be happy
__________________
it's tough to make predictions specially about the future
phoenix is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to phoenix For This Useful Post:
Old 11-17-2025, 07:56 PM   #24
John Mercier
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 3,578
Thanks: 3
Thanked 637 Times in 524 Posts
Default

Sort of lost me.
We always have counted home size and number of rooms as a way to determine valuation.
John Mercier is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:35 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.

This page was generated in 3.43623 seconds