pipe breakage

John A. Birdsall · 05-23-2007, 03:19 PM

I know that nobody has had any pipes freeze and find out when they are opening that they have a pressing water problem. Well, we had it this year and ended at home depot.

We were buying couplings and a section of pipe, my son asked the man if their was anything we could use that does not require soldering. He showed us this brass device that you cut the pipe, clean the burrs of and push it on till it snaps. It is a bit pricey, however in a tight spot it does work great. I forget the name, but it covers up to a two inch splice. Cut out the splice and put it on. no drip, done in about 2 min.

Weirs guy · 05-24-2007, 11:11 AM

Aww come one John, no sense of adventure with soldering?

If you have the opportunity and the time, a change over from copper to PEX, even in small sections at a time, is a good idea. PEX doesn't (or isn't supposed to anyway) split when it freezes, bends easy and with PEX X Compression fittings is easy to install. The only drawback is the crimping tool is a little pricey.

ApS · 05-25-2007, 04:19 AM

Thanks for the tip, JB.

After decades without any trouble, I had six "bursts" this year—all in a tiny, cramped space, of course. They're all soldered now, at some risk to burning the place down.

Apparently, the concrete hot water heater base had settled (due to the rains and wet soil), pulling down the piping and setting up a series of low spots.

I'll go look for those splices for another season, but what's considered "pricey"?

Sal · 05-31-2007, 03:59 PM

Consider using small sections of appropriately sized garden hose segments, into which the cut off ends of the damaged pipe is inserted, and fastened securely by 2 circular stainless steel clamps.
My experience is that it does the job for both straight line and around the corner bursts.
No solder dripping on your face/clothing; no expensive new fangled fittings.

Pineedles · 05-31-2007, 07:39 PM

Aww, I always thought the solder was magic when it defied gravity and traveled uphill into the joint,

AC2717 · 06-01-2007, 07:17 AM

yes they are called "shark bites" I used them through my cottage when we did it over they are great, we used those, Pex tubing and CPVC tubing for everything, except the fill lines, and there we used the stainless steal braided lines. PEX will increase to twice its size before busting and the fittings allow the PEX to spin because of water pressure and also they are very easy to use, we plumbed the whole place in a day and then had it inspected by the town and they very very happy with what we did.

05-23-2007, 03:19 PM	#1
John A. Birdsall Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Norwich, CT Posts: 599 Thanks: 27 Thanked 51 Times in 35 Posts	pipe breakage I know that nobody has had any pipes freeze and find out when they are opening that they have a pressing water problem. Well, we had it this year and ended at home depot. We were buying couplings and a section of pipe, my son asked the man if their was anything we could use that does not require soldering. He showed us this brass device that you cut the pipe, clean the burrs of and push it on till it snaps. It is a bit pricey, however in a tight spot it does work great. I forget the name, but it covers up to a two inch splice. Cut out the splice and put it on. no drip, done in about 2 min.

05-24-2007, 11:11 AM	#2
Weirs guy Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Weirs Beach, NH Posts: 1,067 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Aww come one John, no sense of adventure with soldering? If you have the opportunity and the time, a change over from copper to PEX, even in small sections at a time, is a good idea. PEX doesn't (or isn't supposed to anyway) split when it freezes, bends easy and with PEX X Compression fittings is easy to install. The only drawback is the crimping tool is a little pricey. __________________ Is it bikeweek yet? Now?

05-25-2007, 04:19 AM	#3
ApS Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Florida (Sebring & Keys), Wolfeboro Posts: 5,938 Thanks: 2,205 Thanked 776 Times in 553 Posts	Thanks for the tip, JB. After decades without any trouble, I had six "bursts" this year—all in a tiny, cramped space, of course. They're all soldered now, at some risk to burning the place down. Apparently, the concrete hot water heater base had settled (due to the rains and wet soil), pulling down the piping and setting up a series of low spots. I'll go look for those splices for another season, but what's considered "pricey"? __________________ Is it "Common Sense" isn't.

05-31-2007, 07:39 PM	#5
Pineedles Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Moultonborough & CT Posts: 2,542 Thanks: 1,071 Thanked 667 Times in 366 Posts	soldering Aww, I always thought the solder was magic when it defied gravity and traveled uphill into the joint,

06-01-2007, 07:17 AM	#6
AC2717 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Maynard, MA & Paugus Bay Posts: 2,573 Thanks: 753 Thanked 354 Times in 266 Posts	brass joints yes they are called "shark bites" I used them through my cottage when we did it over they are great, we used those, Pex tubing and CPVC tubing for everything, except the fill lines, and there we used the stainless steal braided lines. PEX will increase to twice its size before busting and the fittings allow the PEX to spin because of water pressure and also they are very easy to use, we plumbed the whole place in a day and then had it inspected by the town and they very very happy with what we did.

05-31-2007, 03:59 PM	#4
Sal Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 311 Thanks: 103 Thanked 169 Times in 53 Posts	Consider using small sections of appropriately sized garden hose segments, into which the cut off ends of the damaged pipe is inserted, and fastened securely by 2 circular stainless steel clamps. My experience is that it does the job for both straight line and around the corner bursts. No solder dripping on your face/clothing; no expensive new fangled fittings.