Common sense?

WakeboardMom · 06-11-2012, 05:47 PM

This is a very scary thing. A boat underway, having just come from a very rocky area with a kid standing on the bow. If they have a map of the lake, they haven't consulted it. I would be so sad to read about this little boy if things went awry. It's a scary thing.

mas1992bc · 06-11-2012, 06:59 PM

Where approximately on the lake is this?

tis · 06-11-2012, 07:02 PM

And that MUST be against the law. If you can't sit with your feet hanging over the side even on a big boat with a rail, I can't imagine you can stand on the edge! Stupid!

surfnsnow · 06-11-2012, 07:38 PM

looks like the east side of hole in the wall

WakeboardMom · 06-11-2012, 07:54 PM

Between the Long Island bridge and the six-pack. If you would like to consult your map of the Lake, that's Foley Island in the back of the picture.

katiesmom · 06-12-2012, 12:40 AM

common sense is not very common...Clearly...but again I'm sure you and I will be in the wrong just like the tubing........Who cares if they hit a rock and run over the kid....We were just having fun.......................................

NoBozo · 06-12-2012, 02:23 PM

I just magnified the picture 200%. It almost looks like the kid has a fishing pole in his hands.. He's probably noticed how the fisherman in the Bass Boats stand up front. So he figures he'll get lucky and catch a fish while going slow in the channel just like the grown ups...

NB

Altonbayicefishingfool · 06-12-2012, 04:33 PM

It could be the same guy who came in to rent a boat a few years back and asked me where the brakes were.....or.... It was the family who asked "when does the tide go out" ( refering to lake Winni) hmmmm. There is more than one nut navigating this lake at any moment.. YIKES!

Rusty · 06-12-2012, 05:07 PM

IMHO posting a picture on a forum of people in a boat who are fishing is an invasion of privacy.
Why can't people mind their own business??

Rangervx · 06-12-2012, 05:26 PM

yeah...that's just dumb...but agree with Rusty 1 million %...

NoBozo · 06-12-2012, 07:10 PM

I LIKE Rusty. I have been wondering where he has been of late...

NB

Jonas Pilot · 06-12-2012, 07:22 PM

It's a public place. If you're not doing anything wrong, or stupid, what difference does it make?

BroadHopper · 06-12-2012, 08:00 PM

Standing on the bow while the boat is underway is against the law. Trouble is most boneheads know the MP is shortstaffed and the MP are wasting time looking for what some fanatics consider the problem with this lake.

Jonas Pilot · 06-12-2012, 08:13 PM

My first thought was the guy on the bow was looking for rocks. There's hardly a riffle behind the boat.

ishoot308 · 06-12-2012, 08:50 PM

Bass boaters do it all the time....

jrc · 06-12-2012, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroadHopper

Standing on the bow while the boat is underway is against the law...

what law?

He's not breaking this one:

270-D:7 Riding on Gunwales, Bow and Transom. – No person shall operate a motorboat or ride as a passenger in a motorboat while sitting on either the starboard or port gunwales or the transom, and no person shall straddle the bow while the motorboat is in operation underway.

BroadHopper · 06-13-2012, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrc

what law?

He's not breaking this one:

270-D:7 Riding on Gunwales, Bow and Transom. – No person shall operate a motorboat or ride as a passenger in a motorboat while sitting on either the starboard or port gunwales or the transom, and no person shall straddle the bow while the motorboat is in operation underway.

If this is true, why are the MP pulling boats over and ticketing those who have folks sitting on the engine hatch with their feet in the cockpit?

jrc · 06-13-2012, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroadHopper

If this is true...

I copied it from State of NH website, do you doubt this is a law? There may be another law applies but I searched for bow riding.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroadHopper

...why are the MP pulling boats over and ticketing those who have folks sitting on the engine hatch with their feet in the cockpit?

My guess is they consider the engine hatch the transom.

Now I also guessing if you were standing like the boy in the picture with the boat at any meaningful speed, they could cite you for:

270:29-a Careless and Negligent Operation of Boats. – Any person who shall operate a power boat upon any waters of the state in a careless and negligent manner or so that the lives and safety of the public are endangered shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.

WakeboardMom · 06-12-2012, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroadHopper

Standing on the bow while the boat is underway is against the law. Trouble is most boneheads know the MP is shortstaffed and the MP are wasting time looking for what some fanatics consider the problem with this lake.

Not just against the law, but dangerous. They weren't fishing. And thanks to the lake level, they were saved because they had just gone over a rock that has taken many a prop and many an outdrive.

"Looking for rocks?" Okay, so what happens if/when the kid doesn't holler in time? "Shoot...Rusty, Jr.'s under the boat! I hope he gets outta the way before the prop gets him!"

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty

IMHO posting a picture on a forum of people in a boat who are fishing is an invasion of privacy.
Why can't people mind their own business??

You're right. LOL...your way is so much better. We should wait until he comes back, hits the rock and we call MP and an ambulance.

I'm out.

lawn psycho · 06-13-2012, 01:34 AM

This post is exactly what is wrong with Lake Winnipesaukee. Everyone wants to find a fault with everything.

It's not like the boat is moving at high speed. I could stand up in my boat and be tossed out just the same. What's next, mandatory seat belts in boats?

Good god I hate the people on Winni more and more.

4Fun · 06-13-2012, 10:14 AM

I can see 3 out of the 5 guys holding fishing poles. Probably going 2MPH.

Not the brightest to be on the bow like that but not really a deadly situation. If they hit a rock Rusy falls off, the boat stops, and they all have a good laugh.

Rusty · 06-13-2012, 10:32 AM

I removed Rusty from the boat. He promises never to stand on the bow of the boat again.

WakeboardMom · 06-13-2012, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4Fun

I can see 3 out of the 5 guys holding fishing poles. Probably going 2MPH.

Not the brightest to be on the bow like that but not really a deadly situation. If they hit a rock Rusy falls off, the boat stops, and they all have a good laugh.

You can't possibly be serious! He's a little boy! If they have a good laugh, they better not to home and tell mom that they laughed.

I said I was out, I gotta stay out.

gtagrip · 06-13-2012, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WakeboardMom

You're right. LOL...your way is so much better. We should wait until he comes back, hits the rock and we call MP and an ambulance.

I'm out.

And taking a picture would have prevented what? Just say'in.

Uncle Fun · 06-13-2012, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty

IMHO posting a picture on a forum of people in a boat who are fishing is an invasion of privacy.
Why can't people mind their own business??

Rusty, If you are on a PUBLIC body of water you have NO EXPECTATION of privacy... I am not sure why you are adamant and think this it is an invasion of their privacy... It's the same as if you are on a public street in your car and a traffic camera takes a picture of you/your car going through an intersection... In addition, there is no revealing information by this picture as to the bow number of the boat or the identity of the people... How can yo invade their privacy if you don't know who they are??? IMO, there is nothing wrong with the photo other than allowing others to see what dangerous situations exist and thus maybe preventing someone else from doing the same thing... If that kids falls off the front of the boat (i.e. losing his balance, not because the boat was going 2mph) and the driver immediately either puts the boat in neutral or kills the engine, let me tell you that the prop will still be spinning until the boat stops... Anyway you slice it, it is wrong and dangerous... That's the bottom line...

John A. Birdsall · 06-15-2012, 01:29 PM

someone on this thread stated the law that said it is against the law to operate a boat......I like to point out that they key word to what they are saying is to "Operate" the young man standing on the bow is not operating the boat. Acting stupid perhaps but I don't think he is operating the boat.
Now should the skipper have done something? You bet he should. The boat should have stopped and the person caused to sit or stand within the boat.

SIKSUKR · 06-15-2012, 01:41 PM

This discussion reminds me of little Billy driving the boat while Norman looks for rocks from the bow. You know what happened next.

Rusty · 06-15-2012, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIKSUKR

This discussion reminds me of little Billy driving the boat while Norman looks for rocks on the bow. You what happened next.

Somebody put rocks on the bow of a boat and Norman was looking for them?

BrownstoneNorth · 06-15-2012, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John A. Birdsall

someone on this thread stated the law that said it is against the law to operate a boat......I like to point out that they key word to what they are saying is to "Operate" the young man standing on the bow is not operating the boat. Acting stupid perhaps but I don't think he is operating the boat.
Now should the skipper have done something? You bet he should. The boat should have stopped and the person caused to sit or stand within the boat.

http://boat-ed.com/nh/handbook/oper.htm

Unlawful Operation

"Riding on the Bow, Gunwales, or Transom is allowing passengers to ride on a power-driven vessel in places where there may be a chance of falling overboard while underway. This includes passengers straddling the bow or riding on the gunwales."

06-11-2012, 05:47 PM	#1
WakeboardMom Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: NH X 2 Posts: 508 Thanks: 595 Thanked 113 Times in 92 Posts	Common sense? This is a very scary thing. A boat underway, having just come from a very rocky area with a kid standing on the bow. If they have a map of the lake, they haven't consulted it. I would be so sad to read about this little boy if things went awry. It's a scary thing. __________________ MarieM Last edited by WakeboardMom; 06-14-2012 at 09:15 AM.

06-11-2012, 07:54 PM	#5
WakeboardMom Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: NH X 2 Posts: 508 Thanks: 595 Thanked 113 Times in 92 Posts	Between the Long Island bridge and the six-pack. If you would like to consult your map of the Lake, that's Foley Island in the back of the picture. __________________ MarieM

06-12-2012, 08:00 PM	#13
BroadHopper Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Laconia NH Posts: 5,594 Thanks: 3,235 Thanked 1,111 Times in 798 Posts	Breaking the law? Standing on the bow while the boat is underway is against the law. Trouble is most boneheads know the MP is shortstaffed and the MP are wasting time looking for what some fanatics consider the problem with this lake. __________________ Someday may never be an actual day.

06-12-2012, 08:50 PM	#15
ishoot308 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Gilford, NH / Welch Island Posts: 6,313 Thanks: 2,407 Thanked 5,310 Times in 2,071 Posts	Whats The Difference? Bass boaters do it all the time.... Attached Images

06-13-2012, 10:32 AM	#22
Rusty Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,028 Thanks: 603 Thanked 687 Times in 425 Posts	I removed Rusty from the boat. He promises never to stand on the bow of the boat again. Attached Images

06-11-2012, 06:59 PM	#2
mas1992bc Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Tewksbury, MA Posts: 72 Thanks: 24 Thanked 104 Times in 20 Posts	Where approximately on the lake is this?

06-11-2012, 07:02 PM	#3
tis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,775 Thanks: 755 Thanked 1,464 Times in 1,020 Posts	And that MUST be against the law. If you can't sit with your feet hanging over the side even on a big boat with a rail, I can't imagine you can stand on the edge! Stupid!

06-11-2012, 07:38 PM	#4
surfnsnow Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 173 Thanks: 133 Thanked 52 Times in 29 Posts	looks like the east side of hole in the wall

The Following User Says Thank You to WakeboardMom For This Useful Post:
surfnsnow (06-11-2012)

06-12-2012, 12:40 AM	#6
katiesmom Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 24 Thanks: 5 Thanked 7 Times in 4 Posts	common sense is not very common...Clearly...but again I'm sure you and I will be in the wrong just like the tubing........Who cares if they hit a rock and run over the kid....We were just having fun.......................................

06-12-2012, 02:23 PM	#7
NoBozo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth. RI Posts: 2,231 Thanks: 400 Thanked 460 Times in 308 Posts	I just magnified the picture 200%. It almost looks like the kid has a fishing pole in his hands.. He's probably noticed how the fisherman in the Bass Boats stand up front. So he figures he'll get lucky and catch a fish while going slow in the channel just like the grown ups... NB

06-12-2012, 04:33 PM	#8
Altonbayicefishingfool Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 153 Thanks: 19 Thanked 52 Times in 30 Posts	It could be the same guy who came in to rent a boat a few years back and asked me where the brakes were.....or.... It was the family who asked "when does the tide go out" ( refering to lake Winni) hmmmm. There is more than one nut navigating this lake at any moment.. YIKES!

06-12-2012, 05:07 PM	#9
Rusty Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,028 Thanks: 603 Thanked 687 Times in 425 Posts	IMHO posting a picture on a forum of people in a boat who are fishing is an invasion of privacy. Why can't people mind their own business??

The Following User Says Thank You to Rusty For This Useful Post:
Winnisquamguy (06-13-2012)

06-12-2012, 05:26 PM	#10
Rangervx Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: VIRGINIA / WINTER HARBOR Posts: 82 Thanks: 28 Thanked 28 Times in 15 Posts	yeah...that's just dumb...but agree with Rusty 1 million %...

The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Jonas Pilot For This Useful Post:
lawn psycho (06-13-2012), Rattlesnake Gal (06-13-2012)

06-12-2012, 07:10 PM	#11
NoBozo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth. RI Posts: 2,231 Thanks: 400 Thanked 460 Times in 308 Posts	I LIKE Rusty. I have been wondering where he has been of late... NB

The Following User Says Thank You to NoBozo For This Useful Post:
Rusty (06-12-2012)

06-12-2012, 07:22 PM	#12
Jonas Pilot Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wolfeboro, New Hampshire is my home, 24-7-365 Posts: 1,686 Thanks: 1,047 Thanked 336 Times in 189 Posts	It's a public place. If you're not doing anything wrong, or stupid, what difference does it make?

06-12-2012, 08:13 PM	#14
Jonas Pilot Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wolfeboro, New Hampshire is my home, 24-7-365 Posts: 1,686 Thanks: 1,047 Thanked 336 Times in 189 Posts	My first thought was the guy on the bow was looking for rocks. There's hardly a riffle behind the boat.

The Following User Says Thank You to Jonas Pilot For This Useful Post:
lawn psycho (06-13-2012)

The Following User Says Thank You to ishoot308 For This Useful Post:
lawn psycho (06-13-2012)

06-13-2012, 01:34 AM	#20
lawn psycho Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: On the move... Posts: 987 Thanks: 113 Thanked 248 Times in 133 Posts	This post is exactly what is wrong with Lake Winnipesaukee. Everyone wants to find a fault with everything. It's not like the boat is moving at high speed. I could stand up in my boat and be tossed out just the same. What's next, mandatory seat belts in boats? Good god I hate the people on Winni more and more.

The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to lawn psycho For This Useful Post:
Rusty (06-14-2012), Winnisquamguy (06-14-2012)

06-13-2012, 10:14 AM	#21
4Fun Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 283 Thanks: 1 Thanked 66 Times in 38 Posts	I can see 3 out of the 5 guys holding fishing poles. Probably going 2MPH. Not the brightest to be on the bow like that but not really a deadly situation. If they hit a rock Rusy falls off, the boat stops, and they all have a good laugh.

The Following User Says Thank You to Rusty For This Useful Post:
WakeboardMom (06-13-2012)

The Following User Says Thank You to gtagrip For This Useful Post:
Rusty (06-13-2012)

06-15-2012, 01:29 PM	#26
John A. Birdsall Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Norwich, CT Posts: 599 Thanks: 27 Thanked 51 Times in 35 Posts	law someone on this thread stated the law that said it is against the law to operate a boat......I like to point out that they key word to what they are saying is to "Operate" the young man standing on the bow is not operating the boat. Acting stupid perhaps but I don't think he is operating the boat. Now should the skipper have done something? You bet he should. The boat should have stopped and the person caused to sit or stand within the boat.

06-15-2012, 01:41 PM	#27
SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	On Golden Pond This discussion reminds me of little Billy driving the boat while Norman looks for rocks from the bow. You know what happened next. __________________ SIKSUKR Last edited by SIKSUKR; 06-19-2012 at 03:18 PM.