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Old 07-07-2005, 11:03 AM   #1
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Default Why is it called Rattlesnake Island?

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Old 07-07-2005, 01:47 PM   #2
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It has to do with at one time it was thought rattlesnakes used to bask in the sun on rocks at Rattlesnake...I am sure you will get the full answer from one of the forum members who are rich with history and facts. This should hold you until then.
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It's all Rattlesnake Gal's fault. They were going to name it after Governor Wentworth, but she didn't want to be known as Wentworth's Gal . Don't know why they picked Rattlesnake, unless they knew in advance that she was going to use Rattlesnake Gal! ...Then again, one of our historians may have a more plausible answer...
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Talking Blame the rock bass...

The island was a spawning area for the elusive rock bass and if the island were named Rock Bass Island, they would be fished to extinction.

So, in an effort to scare fishermen away, it was named Rattlesnake Island.

The fact that there were rattlesnakes on the island did not sway the naming of the island.

One other thought, neighboring Sleepers Island, formerly, Little Rattlesnake Island, was not a nursery for young rattlesnakes.
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Default Not since the early 1940's

I understood that there were Rattlesnakes on the island until the early 1940's. I heard that wild pigs were let loose to root them out. They were probably Timber Rattlesnakes aka Crotalus horridus

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Here's what I can recall!
Years ago there where two brothers that owned the island. They got into some kind of hissy fit and one of the brothers put a stone wall down the middle of the island. (You stay on your side and I'll stay on my side, type of thing) Trying to drive the other brother off the island he let rattlesnakes go on his brother's side. Now the snakes grew in number! This drove both brothers of the island. Then they had to get some pigs to root out the snakes and get rid of them. They didn't get all of them because snakes where on the island till the 1940's. Libby Museum has some old remains taken from the island.

Now! I don't know if that's true or not!
That is what I have heard!
I'm sure I'll be corrected! HEHEHE!

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Old 07-07-2005, 08:30 PM   #7
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Thumbs up Rattlers in the North country

I have always been told that it is to cold for to long of periods for a rattlesnake to survive here in the north country as they do need warmth to live.
McD can you help us out?
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Default where are you Mcdude and Rattlesnake Gal

I know I read about the rattlesnakes when I was looking into history of Lake Winnipesaukee.
But, alas the memory fails me where I found this information.
I will begin again as they say...but where the heck are you two...you two I know have the answer.
Now I sign off to research.
I shall return.
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Old 07-07-2005, 09:39 PM   #9
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Default There were many rattlers in the past

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I have always been told that it is to cold for to long of periods for a rattlesnake to survive here in the north country as they do need warmth to live.
McD can you help us out?
Actually there used to be a lot more in NH. They are now an endangered species.

http://www.cmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dl...9/1017/OPINION
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Old 07-07-2005, 09:53 PM   #10
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Default From Three Centuries on Winnipesaukee

"I can honestly say, however that the name came from the fact that there were 'rattlers' on the island. I can recall a Weirs Reunion Week exhibition of 'rattlers' caught on the island by experts. A few years ago it was possible to follow down the east shore of the island in a small boat on a bright, clear day, and see one or more snakes on the ledges in the sun. During lumbering operations on the island workmen have been bitten by them. On as least one occasion the island was burned over in an effort to exterminate them, once and for all. But the ledges that are their natural habitat were their natural protection against the fire, and, crawling deep into the rock clefts, they escaped the flames. I have not heard or seen any definite proof of the presence of snakes on the island in recent years."

Three Centuries on Winnipesaukee, pp 11-12 Second Edition, Paul H. Blaisdell
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Default What About Its Shape?

I always thought that it got its name from its shape. It kind of looks like a snake when viewed from the water looking north to south, say from light buoy #18.
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Old 07-08-2005, 01:28 PM   #12
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Climb Mt. Major and take a gander north. Rattlesnake Island must be named (at least in part) appropriately for its familiar shape of a snake.
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Thanks folks, especially Island Girl. I have that book... duh
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Old 07-28-2005, 10:27 PM   #14
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Default How did Rattlesnake I get it's name?

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Old 07-29-2005, 11:14 AM   #15
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Look in the tread "In ancient times" for more.
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Default I know why it's called rattlesnake island

As we all know there were many Indians in and around the lakes regain of New Hampshire as legend has it they had many caressed possessions in witch they wanted to protect from the white man who recently inhabited the area, so what they did was to berry there treasures and riddle the island with rattle snakes to detour any one from venturing out on the island. Thus that’s how it got its name Rattle Snake Island.

As a boy 15years old or so I was very interested in hiking and rock climbing just graduating for outward bound I decided to climb the cliffs of rattle snake island. As I approached the top of the cliff there was a loose rock witch I removed and behind it was a snake! Well it took me about 2 seconds to scale down the mountain! (no pun intended) when I returned home I told my grandfather what I had seen, a brown snake with black squares on its back, we looked it up in a book of his and came to the conclusion that it was a diamond back rattle snake! As god as my witness this is a true story.

Come to think of it I wonder if that how Diamond Island and Treasure Island (witch are in the area) if that’s how they got there names.
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Default Diamondbacks not native to NH

The only native venemous rattlesnake in NH is the Timber Rattlesnake..

http://www.wildlife.state.nh.us/News...kes_091203.htm
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Default Rattlesnake Island

The fact behind the naming of Rattlesnake Island is simple: when you look at the island from the east and north it looks like the tail of a rattlesnake, with the tip being toward Alton Bay. The irregular bumps going south to north represent the rings ("rattles") on the snake's tail. End of discussion. I must say, though, that the different versions of actual rattlesnakes being on the island do add to the mystique of the legend.
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Default I see it in the reverse...

with the rattlesnake's head closest to Alton Bay.
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I once encountered a snake on rattlesnake is. that curled up and rattled its tail when I approached it, not sure if it definitley was a rattlesnake, but it fit the criterion.
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The fact behind the naming of Rattlesnake Island is simple: when you look at the island from the east and north it looks like the tail of a rattlesnake, with the tip being toward Alton Bay. The irregular bumps going south to north represent the rings ("rattles") on the snake's tail. End of discussion. I must say, though, that the different versions of actual rattlesnakes being on the island do add to the mystique of the legend.
Regardless of the facts, I stand by my submission of 2005. That is my story and I'm sticking to it.
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I think the honest answer it it has gotten lost in the history of why it was really named Rattlesnake, camp guy. I have always heard both that there were rattlesnakes there and that it is because of the shape of the island. The only thing I do know for sure is that the rattlesnake at the Libby is not from Rattlesnake Island. When I was young there was no rattlesnake at all in the museum and then this one was found by my uncle as I said and the museum took it. I remember it was a big deal-we all went to look at it both at my uncle's house and then in the museum.
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I understood that there were Rattlesnakes on the island until the early 1940's. I heard that wild pigs were let loose to root them out. They were probably Timber Rattlesnakes aka Crotalus horridus


Recently finished reading two books on the history of Lake Winnipesaukee and according in the book Lake Winnipesaukee (from the Making of America Series by Bruce Heald, it states that Rattlesnakes did inhabit the island until about 1940, accounting for the name. It also says that one of the last ones found there can be found preserved in a local museum of natural history.
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Recently finished reading two books on the history of Lake Winnipesaukee and according in the book Lake Winnipesaukee (from the Making of America Series by Bruce Heald, it states that Rattlesnakes did inhabit the island until about 1940, accounting for the name. It also says that one of the last ones found there can be found preserved in a local museum of natural history.
Which I still believe it wrong. The rattlesnake at the Libby Museum was brought there by my uncle. He found it up on 171 while he and his state crew were cutting beside the road. That just shows how history isn't always right.
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The island was a spawning area for the elusive rock bass and if the island were named Rock Bass Island, they would be fished to extinction.

So, in an effort to scare fishermen away, it was named Rattlesnake Island.

The fact that there were rattlesnakes on the island did not sway the naming of the island.

One other thought, neighboring Sleepers Island, formerly, Little Rattlesnake Island, was not a nursery for young rattlesnakes.
That's very interesting. I've never heard that. Like most people, I always guessed it was because it was infested with snakes. I think Camp Guy probably has the best answer. There's a lot of good stories though
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I have been working on various island histories for my website and I actually searched the naming of Rattlesnake... you can find the full article here http://www.nancydeporter.com/islands...-lakes-realty/
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As kids, we were always told it was because of the rattlesnakes on it or the shape. No one really seemed to know which for sure.

There is a rattlesnake in the Libby Museum that they say is from Rattlesnake. It might be, but when we were kids there were no rattlesnakes in the Museum until my uncle found one up on Rte. 171 in Tuftonboro and donated it to the museum. I remember us all gathering around to look at it. I believe the Museum may be incorrect in saying the snake there is from Rattlesnake Island.
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Are there bears on Bear Isle?
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As of last fall there was a brown bear on Rattlesnake. I personally have not seen evidence though. An islander from the northern end told me about it.

There once was a bear on Bear Island. That's how Bear Island got it's name!

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This is where I got the information for Mount Rattlesnake...
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As kids, we were always told it was because of the rattlesnakes on it or the shape. No one really seemed to know which for sure.

There is a rattlesnake in the Libby Museum that they say is from Rattlesnake. It might be, but when we were kids there were no rattlesnakes in the Museum until my uncle found one up on Rte. 171 in Tuftonboro and donated it to the museum. I remember us all gathering around to look at it. I believe the Museum may be incorrect in saying the snake there is from Rattlesnake Island.
1) If there were rattlesnakes in Tuftonboro, it's reasonable to believe there were rattlesnakes on Rattlesnake Island—especially as the island was uninhabited until recent years, and has the elevation and rock-ledge environment that are very favorable to them. Normally, I'd take such "anecdotal witness" tales with a grain of salt; however, the rattlesnake sightings strongly support the Rattlesnake Island name.

2) Yesterday I spoke with member Keith, who expanded on his years-ago Winni.com post (below) that the rattlesnake of his Grandfather's day was located on Tuftonboro Neck. Keith is unquestionably a scientist of some note, with a local business involved with Mycology.

3) ...and that is was the family Ganzy (ph.) who had to repeatedly shoo rattlesnakes off their porch!

4) Another thing: Near Raymond, NH, is another volcanic "Ring Dike" that is said to support rattlesnakes today.
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4) Another thing: Near Raymond, NH, is another volcanic "Ring Dike" that is said to support rattlesnakes today.
North of Raymond center is Pawtuckaway SP.To the W/NW of Pawtuckaway Lake is a ring dike clearly visible on Google Earth when viewed from 20-40,000ft.
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As kids, we were always told it was because of the rattlesnakes on it or the shape. No one really seemed to know which for sure.

There is a rattlesnake in the Libby Museum that they say is from Rattlesnake. It might be, but when we were kids there were no rattlesnakes in the Museum until my uncle found one up on Rte. 171 in Tuftonboro and donated it to the museum. I remember us all gathering around to look at it. I believe the Museum may be incorrect in saying the snake there is from Rattlesnake Island.
It is my recollection that there are several rattlesnakes or skins at the museum.
Someone should go look and report back.
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It is my recollection that there are several rattlesnakes or skins at the museum.
Someone should go look and report back.

I went last summer and only remember seeing the one. But there is a lot to see there so I might have missed others. My grandfather helped Dr. Libby put the museum together, he was sort of like the first curator. So he was one of those that went out to Rattlesnake.
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I just read the article in the link n this post.. I have never heard The top of Rattlesnake Island referred to as Rattlesnake Mountain as stated in the article. Anyone???
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I just read the article in the link n this post.. I have never heard The top of Rattlesnake Island referred to as Rattlesnake Mountain as stated in the article. Anyone???
No, I never heard it called Rattlesnake Mountain.
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Rattlesnake Island has always been Rattlesnake Island, and for as many people involved in a discussion of its name you will have as many theories, maybe more !!

However, if you 'google' Ratlesnake Mountain you will find a small mountain range north of Squam Lake named 'The Rattlesnakes'.

(So, the intrigue continues!)
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