The Dive!

[GBGX2]

https://www.facebook.com/thedivelake...type=3&sfns=mo

Come down to the Weirs for the Dive’s sophomore season opening!!! We have fire pits and big heaters on and ready to go!

[fatlazyless]

With a two gasoline pump, boat dock that is fueling boats immediately close down below, are these open flame fireplaces and propane flame bug de-buggers safe to use, what with the rising gasoline fumes?

You have open flames and gasoline pumps, side by side ..... is that safe? ...... seems like an unsafe situation!

[winni83]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

With a two gasoline pump, boat dock that is fueling boats immediately close down below, are these open flame fireplaces and propane flame bug de-buggers safe to use, what with the rising gasoline fumes?

You have open flames and gasoline pumps, side by side ..... is that safe? ...... seems like an unsafe situation!

Nope. Gasoline fumes do not rise. They are heavier than air and sink..

“Gasoline vapors are denser than air, meaning these vapors will sink and collect at the lowest point. Effective air circulation may help disperse gasoline vapors. An open flame is not necessary to ignite gas vapors; one spark can cause gasoline vapors to ignite.”

[fatlazyless]

Looking at the gas dock webcam, the estimated distance from the two gas pumps to The Dive is about 10' to 20', and gasoline fumes are subject to the whims of wind and breezes, so any responsible person realizes it is unsafe and is a flash gasoline fire hazard to have these two gas pumps fueling boats so close to The Dive with those two open flame propane fireplaces and two propane flame de-buggers.

Have you ever seen the fire prevention safety signs that say "No pen Flames" within 50' of a gasoline pump!

This is simply too close for comfort! ....

[Hillcountry]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

Looking at the gas dock webcam, the estimated distance from the two gas pumps to The Dive is about 10' to 20', and gasoline fumes are subject to the whims of wind and breezes, so any responsible person realizes it is unsafe and is a flash gasoline fire hazard to have these two gas pumps fueling boats so close to The Dive with those two open flame propane fireplaces and two propane flame de-buggers.

Have you ever seen the fire prevention safety signs that say "No pen Flames" within 50' of a gasoline pump!

This is simply too close for comfort! ....

I agree with FLL...seems like SOME law might be being broken with this setup...

[The Real BigGuy]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

Have you ever seen the fire prevention safety signs that say "No pen Flames" within 50' of a gasoline pump!

This is simply too close for comfort! ....

Yup, seen those. Their talking about fire/open flame on same horizontal plane or lower. Dive’s pits are above, and as previously mentioned gasoline fumes are sinkers. It would Have to be pretty strong contained & vectored wind to have a LEL sufficient to support/sustain combustion (1.4 - 7.6% in air) with an ignition source that far above the pumps.


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[chasedawg]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

Looking at the gas dock webcam, the estimated distance from the two gas pumps to The Dive is about 10' to 20', and gasoline fumes are subject to the whims of wind and breezes, so any responsible person realizes it is unsafe and is a flash gasoline fire hazard to have these two gas pumps fueling boats so close to The Dive with those two open flame propane fireplaces and two propane flame de-buggers.

Have you ever seen the fire prevention safety signs that say "No pen Flames" within 50' of a gasoline pump!

This is simply too close for comfort! ....

I agree with FLL. Until the Fire Marshall and MP says otherwise I will be concerned with anyone near the dock when any kind of open flame. I have seen boats blow up at gas docks over the years with people thinking that would never happen. This to me is a potentially dangerous situation.
Thanks FLL for the alert!

[joey2665]

Before we cast stones at a business trying to make it how about obtaining more information about the actual laws and if the fire pit and heaters are being used while at the dock. I’m sure East Coast Flightcraft who owns the pier would not jeopardize there property and endanger the public.


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[Hillcountry]

Originally Posted by joey2665

Before we cast stones at a business trying to make it how about obtaining more information about the actual laws and if the fire pit and heaters are being used while at the dock. I’m sure East Coast Flightcraft who owns the pier would not jeopardize there property and endanger the public.


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I said “seems like”
Not implying any laws are being broken. Just seems unusual to have open flames so near a gas dock.
If we hear a big BOOM some evening...I guess we’ll know.

[GBGX2]

Hard to imagine a bigger group of “half empty” folks on the entire planet.

How about celebrating a new business and an owner that is working hard to improve both his business model and his clientele’s experience?

Jeeeesh!

[fatlazyless]

Geez ..... I don't know but if you've ever seen gasoline become set on fire, it all happens like very, very fast.

Just looking at the photos on the webcam, the Sept 1, 2018 shows a single red fire extinguisher in the center of the dock, positioned at the white post.

And, looking at today's May 11, 2019 photo, there is no fire extinguisher ..... so there's no fire extinguisher .... there ..... at the gas dock. How safe is that?

Seems like some gasoline stations have a fire suppression system but maybe that's just in Massachusetts, Maine, Vermont, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New York, and New Jersey and probably is not required in New Hampshire. But, what the heck, for like $25 at Walmart you can get a larger than usual fire extinguisher that could come in very handy, sometime.

Maybe Flightcraft and The Dive can set up a 'go fund me page' and raise the needed $25 to get a decently large fire extinguisher for their gas dock?

[GBGX2]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

Geez ..... I don't know but if you've ever seen gasoline become set on fire, it all happens like very, very fast.

Just looking at the photos on the webcam, the Sept 1, 2018 shows a single red fire extinguisher in the center of the dock, positioned at the white post.

And, looking at today's May 11, 2019 photo, there is no fire extinguisher ..... so there's no fire extinguisher .... there ..... at the gas dock. How safe is that?

Thank you....

[fatlazyless]

Instead of resting your case, why not get up off your butt and go get a larger than usual fire extinguisher asap-pdq for the gas dock, there..... all things considered ...... seems like a no-brainer ..... and would be a small first safety step for a gas dock selling gasoline ..... and maybe some 'no smoking' and 'no open flame' signs, as well.

Thank-you!

[joey2665]

The pessimism and potentially damaging assumptions about this business on the thread is incredible.


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[Poor Richard]

Gotta love that Haterade

[Hillcountry]

Originally Posted by joey2665

The pessimism and potentially damaging assumptions about this business on the thread is incredible.


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All we’re discussing is open flames near gas pumps...get off your friggin high horse, mr incredible.
No one here has said anything about the dive failing or otherwise.
Purely a safety question. SHEESH!

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by Hillcountry

All we’re discussing is open flames near gas pumps...get off your friggin high horse, mr incredible.

No one here has said anything about the dive failing or otherwise.

Purely a safety question. SHEESH!

Purely BS mr text muscles safety patrol tough guy. Your arrogance is astounding.

If your discussing dock safety at the pump then take it to a different thread. This was started by the dive to inform about its amenities.


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[ApS]

Purely BS mr text muscles safety patrol tough guy. Your arrogance is astounding. If your discussing dock safety at the pump then
take it to a different thread. This was started by the dive to inform about its amenities.

The thread can be restarted elsewhere starting from reply #2.

Fire safety is serious business. Take it from one who has put out two gasoline fires with fire extinguishers. One in an auto repair shop, with an extinguisher I could barely carry—and one in traffic with a 2½-pounder—both totally extinguished. I've also seen two cases where gas pump nozzles have stuck in the open position.

You can get serious burns just from the "FWOOOOOOOOMP"!

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by ApS

The thread can be restarted elsewhere starting from reply #2.

Fire safety is serious business. Take it from one who has put out two gasoline fires with fire extinguishers. One in an auto repair shop, with an extinguisher I could barely carry—and one in traffic with a 2½-pounder—both totally extinguished. I've also seen two cases where gas pump nozzles have stuck in the open position.

You can get serious burns just from the "FWOOOOOOOOMP"!

Thank you APS that was exactly my point.


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[pondguy]

Originally Posted by joey2665

Purely BS mr text muscles safety patrol tough guy. Your arrogance is astounding.

If your discussing dock safety at the pump then take it to a different thread. This was started by the dive to inform about its amenities.


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Making friends everywhere he goes, but does not play well with others !

[WJT2]

The opening comment and picture looks very nice and inviting. Wish all the best. Is The Dive going to be tied up at this dock for slippage use or is this a dock where passengers will board and come ashore or is going to be a static bar and not leave this dock??? I understand safety concerns but I don't have enough info about The Dives schedule and intended use. Just wondering. Happy Mothers Day to all you deserving Mom's.

[The Real BigGuy]

You assume the FM & MP have not already give their approvals.


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[joey2665]

Originally Posted by The Real BigGuy

You assume the FM & MP have not already give their approvals.


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I agree. There are a lot of assumptions being made. I can tell you in my experience I have found the Laconia FD to be extremely through in the approval process and their spot inspections.


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[garysanfran]

Keep it rolling...

Time will tell who's right.

[LIforrelaxin]

Originally Posted by The Real BigGuy

You assume the FM & MP have not already give their approvals.


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And you assume they have... The problem with a thread like this is that people do to much ASS of U and ME........

I agree there are potential dangers give the proximities... how much, I don't know nor does anyone.... To think otherwise is ignorance.... As for the FM and MP.... if people are really curious, all it takes is a phone call.... or better yet, talk to the Dive, or even east coast flight craft to get a better understanding of what is going on...

[The Real BigGuy]

No, I assume nothing. Just commenting on the negativity. You are the one assuming.


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[Outdoorsman]

I think the biggest assumption here is that Flightcraft has given up dock space at their gas pumps. Unless you are a party that is involved, it is just that, an assumption. Somehow, when people see a topic on "the dive", things just seem to head south (pun intended).

Back on topic.... Hopefully someone will create a thread in the "Restaurant Information & Reviews" category that actually discusses the food.

[LIforrelaxin]

Originally Posted by Outdoorsman

I think the biggest assumption here is that Flightcraft has given up dock space at their gas pumps. Unless you are a party that is involved, it is just that, an assumption. Somehow, when people see a topic on "the dive", things just seem to head south (pun intended).

Back on topic.... Hopefully someone will create a thread in the "Restaurant Information & Reviews" category that actually discusses the food.

Whether a thread gets starting in the Resturant section, or not, I have heard all types of reviews... Good and Bad, I think it is a matter of what you are expecting. They are what they are, I wouldn't expect anything fancy, but that is just me... Whether the review be good or bad, the common thread of all reviews seems to be around price.... Once again, I would expect the priciness of the joint, given what it is... Bottom line I don't think it is that bad of a place, if you take it for what it is...

As for threads on the Dive, heading south all the time. What do you expect? It is a huge change for this lake a floating night club. People are not going to be on the fence about it, they are going to either be for it, or against it... Just like the debates we have had on this forum, about no rafting regulations, no wake zones, and speed limits. Some people can except that other peoples views are different some can not.

I agree that it would seem foolish for the Dive, to stay where it is and block the gas dock. But time will tell. The hope may be that most weekends she will go out, who knows, it is all speculation at this point. But isn't that what makes the country great, being able to speculate? Have fun disagreeing? As long as it doesn't go to far, it is all in good fun.... This is online chatting take it to seriously and feelings get hurt... take it for what it is harmless conversation and it is enjoyable...

[SAMIAM]

Originally Posted by LIforrelaxin

Whether a thread gets starting in the Resturant section, or not, I have heard all types of reviews... Good and Bad, I think it is a matter of what you are expecting. They are what they are, I wouldn't expect anything fancy, but that is just me... Whether the review be good or bad, the common thread of all reviews seems to be around price.... Once again, I would expect the priciness of the joint, given what it is... Bottom line I don't think it is that bad of a place, if you take it for what it is...

As for threads on the Dive, heading south all the time. What do you expect? It is a huge change for this lake a floating night club. People are not going to be on the fence about it, they are going to either be for it, or against it... Just like the debates we have had on this forum, about no rafting regulations, no wake zones, and speed limits. Some people can except that other peoples views are different some can not.

I agree that it would seem foolish for the Dive, to stay where it is and block the gas dock. But time will tell. The hope may be that most weekends she will go out, who knows, it is all speculation at this point. But isn't that what makes the country great, being able to speculate? Have fun disagreeing? As long as it doesn't go to far, it is all in good fun.... This is online chatting take it to seriously and feelings get hurt... take it for what it is harmless conversation and it is enjoyable...

Well said.......seems like its the purpose of the forum for everyone to express their views

[webmaster]

I just saw them move The Dive from the gas dock to the end of the pier itself. I thought it might end up there.

Best of all, we've got the view of the Mount back:

[garysanfran]

Wonder what this is about? Attached to Anthony's...I hope it's friendly...

[fatlazyless]

This seems like an excellent new spot .... away from the Flightcraft marina and water ski school ..... away from the rental dock spaces ..... away from the gasoline dock .... away from the Mount Washington .... with good access(?) through The Pier bringing in potential customers to other Pier businesses .... so, that makes it a win-win-win-win-win ..... that's right ..... a 5-win move, right here in Weirs Beach ...... 5-wins ... !

That should be a very glamorous location for the people on-board The Dive, there, because it's out on the open water and should catch the setting sun rays shining down across the big, open water..... there ..... just like out on a boat

What a totally fabulous ..... genius, even ..... new spot for The Dive at The Pier at Flighcraft on Lake Winnipesaukee, New Hampshire, USA!

Today is Thursday, May 16, 2019! ...... and that's the way it is ..... here, along the docks at Weirs Beach, NH.

[webmaster]

Originally Posted by garysanfran

Wonder what this is about? Attached to Anthony's...I hope it's friendly...

There is open space and a separate entrance under Anthony's and the arcade that could be used to board The Dive. I doubt that Anthony's is involved except that they may lose some customers!

[AC2717]

I hope that is not where it is staying, what a terrible location for everyone. Go back to the dock

[fatlazyless]

Originally Posted by AC2717

I hope that is not where it is staying, what a terrible location for everyone. Go back to the dock

So, why do you say that? I drove down to it today, and took a look, and can see how the nearby residential homes on Simpson Ave MAY(?) be upset with it clogging up their view, but for everyone else, the Mount Washington and the people on-board The Dive and the boaters who position close by ..... it seems excellent. And, who knows, maybe the local residents really like it there ...... is possible ....after all ....it is The Weirs?

For the people on-board The Dive and the boats nearby, positioned close, and waiting to get on ..... it seems like a great spot. Will boaters be able to drop anchor and get rowed on-board by a valet row boat? From that location, people on board should get a real good dose of the beautiful setting sun streaming down the big long length of Meredith Bay, there, just like out on a boat.

Plus, it gets the freebie advertising advantage of being very close up, showing on the Weirs Cam, which is huge for publicity. You probably cannot buy publicity like this, and The Dive gets it for free. Similarly, do you the viewer, think it is clogging up the web cam shot, or is it a welcome addition sort of like a big fat spider, very up close, on the camera lens?

[AC2717]

location wise and sticking off the pier and blocking the view from Anthony's. Don't see how they are allowed to dock like that.

Not complaining cause it does not affect my view or life, nor business, but it seems very odd to do it that way, why not leave it where it pulled in, still had gas docks all accessible and was tucked in nice and protected. Hope it is marked at night

[The Real BigGuy]

Sticking out like that, won’t they get slammed by the Wiers boat chop?


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[joey2665]

Originally Posted by The Real BigGuy

Sticking out like that, won’t they get slammed by the Wiers boat chop?


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Certainly will especially on weekends and holidays. Maybe on busier days they will venture to the sand bars to drum up business


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[joey2665]

New overhead photos of their current location

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[Andromeda321]

It does make the Weirs Cam more entertaining at its current location- looked completely packed on Sunday afternoon!

[joey2665]

Overhead Photo

[Woodsy]

Went to the Dive on Saturday night..... had a GREAT time! The beers were cold, the heaters & fireplaces were going... watched the Mount come in!

I will def be back!

Woodsy

[fatlazyless]

It looks like a very fun spot ..... super location ..... does it catch the setting sun shining down Meredith Bay?

This seems like it could be a big success that's here for years and years and years. Perfect coordination of new location and everything else all seem to make it happen ..... plus, the Weirs cam shot is like a huge Hollywood promo for The Dive ..... a fairy tale beginning for The Dive!

Once upon a time, many many years ago ..... The Dive was looking for a real home ..... a home it could call its own ..... not just an anchorage on a sand bar .... but a real home ..... at a dock .... with parking, and location, and venue, and customers, and all that goes into a home for an unusual business like The Dive.

I just wish they could resurrect the old miniature golf course, there, as an overflow activity for The Dive? Just picture a nice little miniature golf course in that triangular, parking lot area, where it always was. Maybe just a 9-hole course and just five or six parking spots could co-exist in that space?

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by joey2665

Overhead Photo

Three pontoons tied up to it with full covers. It doesn't look like it's going anywhere for a while.

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by Biggd

Three pontoons tied up to it with full covers. It doesn't look like it's going anywhere for a while.

They are tied up to the dock I believe not The Dive


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[Hillcountry]

Originally Posted by Biggd

Three pontoons tied up to it with full covers. It doesn't look like it's going anywhere for a while.

That’s part of the pier... The dive is the smaller whitish vessel tied up by the bow at the upper part of the photo.

[fatlazyless]

It doesn't show in the photo but there's one or two homes down the bottom of Simpson Ave, on the water there, that probably have a serious issue with The Dive?

So..... who do you call for a zoning, use, on-the-water issue of a blocked view by a floating restaurant that has never been in that spot before ..... where, for the last 119-years and longer, it was an open view?

Who you gonna call? This is a case for some attorney with deep ties to the Marine Patrol, Laconia Zoning, NH-DES ..... could be complicated ..... who has jurisdiction?

For these two waterfront owners, it's a 62' long x 25' high wall across their water view that was never there before, plus all the attracted boat-patron-customer activity. It sort of changes the lake water use there from recreational to commercial use?

Hellooooooo ........ get me Perry Mason, no-not him, some other local attorney here? ........ fast, please!

[The Real BigGuy]

Be happy! They now have a floating breakwater


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[fatlazyless]

Simpson Ave has homes on both sides and the closer side is hidden behind the large Pier building and the store fronts along the walking dock, there, so they don't show in the photo. With The Dive positioned where it's at, their long held view is now impinged, cluttered, and boxed off by The Dive barge.

Here's a local land use situation that would be similar to The Dive situation, here, in front of the two Simpson Ave, waterfront homes.

Some person with a food truck business permanently parks their retail food truck on the side of the town road, directly in front of your residence, because it is a good retail food location, and starts doing business selling food, there. How would you like to have a food truck parked permanently in front of your home, out on the public road, in business, selling food?

Isn't this a similar situation, except it is in Lake Winnipesaukee?

Flightcraft and The Dive have expanded their foot print by simply parking The Dive barge directly in front of the two water front homes, down the bottom of Simpson Ave.

[Woodsy]

FLL...

While the Dive is definitely visible from the last 2 houses on Simpson... it in no way impedes their view. You can clearly see in Joey's pic (post #14) the last house on Simpson is the yellowish one. If you feel the need to verify, Google Earth works well, I am sure you use that to locate the local Walmart (its free so it should work with your budget).

Perhaps you should visit the Dive and judge for yourself instead of a stupid post filled with misinformation. Of course their prices are a little higher than you are used to.

Woodsy

[Rusty]

Originally Posted by Woodsy

FLL...

While the Dive is definitely visible from the last 2 houses on Simpson... it in no way impedes their view. You can clearly see in Joey's pic (post #14) the last house on Simpson is the yellowish one. If you feel the need to verify, Google Earth works well, I am sure you use that to locate the local Walmart (its free so it should work with your budget).

Perhaps you should visit the Dive and judge for yourself instead of a stupid post filled with misinformation. Of course their prices are a little higher than you are used to.

Woodsy

Looks like it impedes their view from what I got from google maps.

[Rusty]

Looks like it also impedes the other houses at the end of Simpson.

[tmrealtors]

I tried uploading photos...hope it works! My first time posting here!

[Outdoorsman]

Originally Posted by Rusty

Looks like it also impedes the other houses at the end of Simpson.

Looks like that dumpster on the edge of the lake is a bigger problem.... Be careful what you wish for.

[tmrealtors]

Those are old photos from years ago. That house is fully renovated now and mine was all repaired too.

[Rusty]

Originally Posted by tmrealtors

Those are old photos from years ago. That house is fully renovated now and mine was all repaired too.

I'm sure it looks nice.
Thanks for posting the pictures of the Dive as viewed from your property.

[Garcia]

I'll be honest - I wouldn't want The Dive parked in front of my house.

[jazzman]

How does the Dive stay put on a windy or wavy day? I wouldn't exactly call that docked. Is it sitting there with it's spuds down?

I know it's Weirs central there, but I'd be pretty annoyed if it was my house.

[Biggd]

Someone told me they were charging a $40 entry fee just to get on it. Is this true?
If that's the case I can see why they would want to stay docked there.

[Woodsy]

Biggd..... No entrance fee to hang on the Dive.

I get how the homeowners might be a little pissed having seen the new pics. I did not think it was a bid deal when I was on it.

That being said, I do not think the aggrieved homeowners are going to get very far with any complaints. Especially with the Dive going out to the sandbars in the morning and returning in the evening on weekends.

Woodsy

[fatlazyless]

So, how does The Dive coexist and fit in at the Flighcraft-Winni Pier docks area?

Another spot that is a possibility is way over to the right, up close with the bow of the Mount Washington. Two tenant boats could be moved somewhere else, leaving a dock space big enough for The Dive.

Concentrating the Mount Washington, Sophie C, Doris E, and The Dive all in one tight spot could be one happy group of cruise boats ...... all far away from any residential water front homes.

Believe this spot used to be home to the Winnipesaukee Queen, a 48' sailboat.

And, at the same time, resurrect the old miniature golf course in what is now that triangle shaped parking lot ..... just because it's the right thing to do ... The Dive-Mini Golf! Mini golf and The Dive would be good partners, with the two working together, with the golf as an overflow .... and at the dock spot way to the right, close to the Mount Washington ..... there's good line-of-sight vision from the tall Dive, there, to the mini golf course ..... location-location-location ..... make it a 9-hole course with coexisting 6 parking spots on the other side of a fence?

[Phantom]

My mental image of FLL's home computer …………. upgraded last year to have 2 floppy drives.

[joey2665]

That is hilarious!!!!!!

[fatlazyless]

....so true up til few months ago .... have stepped up to a $179 Acer 15" lap top.... hey ..... I may be slow, but I am still here, driv'n up front of you! ...

[fatlazyless]

Originally Posted by Woodsy

Perhaps you should visit the Dive .... their prices are a little higher than you are used to.
Woodsy

.... so what are their prices like ..... post a menu, someone?

[Reilly]

Originally Posted by Woodsy

FLL...

While the Dive is definitely visible from the last 2 houses on Simpson... it in no way impedes their view. You can clearly see in Joey's pic (post #14) the last house on Simpson is the yellowish one. If you feel the need to verify, Google Earth works well, I am sure you use that to locate the local Walmart (its free so it should work with your budget).

Perhaps you should visit the Dive and judge for yourself instead of a stupid post filled with misinformation. Of course their prices are a little higher than you are used

Woodsy

you are absolutly wrong ,from their house they look over it but from their dock & water front they have lost a good portion of their veiw ,they have not arrived yet this year but i would assume that something will b said when they do

[wdlincolnjr]

I cant believe that the Dive owners would be so inconsiderate as to moor their business in such a fashion to impinge on others long held (in excess of 100 years )enjoyment of the lake It is hard to believe that the floating billboard blocking what should be a great view and should be challenged as to taxpayers are involved and I am sure the Dive pays minimal if any to Laconia. Hopefully saner heads will prevail and not just go for the quick buck and instead be good neighbors. I am sure that the Dive owners would be quick to solve a similar situation if someone moored a large cabin cruiser that would block access to their business.Personally I hope they succeed while taking into consideration other peoples rights .

[iw8surf]

Originally Posted by wdlincolnjr

I cant believe that the Dive owners would be so inconsiderate as to moor their business in such a fashion to impinge on others long held (in excess of 100 years )enjoyment of the lake It is hard to believe that the floating billboard blocking what should be a great view and should be challenged as to taxpayers are involved and I am sure the Dive pays minimal if any to Laconia. Hopefully saner heads will prevail and not just go for the quick buck and instead be good neighbors. I am sure that the Dive owners would be quick to solve a similar situation if someone moored a large cabin cruiser that would block access to their business.Personally I hope they succeed while taking into consideration other peoples rights .

A great view of Lawrence City beach... I mean Weirs beach.

[tmrealtors]

I am the actual owner of the yellow house The Dive decided to park in front of. Not only does it now cause docking and safety issues at my property it is smack in front of my view line. I hope this can be resolved and the boat turned or moved so this does not become an issue. It is upsetting that a two story bar/restaurant barge is allowed to park jetted out 65' sideways from the pier.
*Please imagine if it was your home. I understand people like the Dive and I have nothing against it but if it caused issues at your personal home I think it would be upsetting to you too.
Any help moving this would be greatly appreciated.

[Blyblvrd]

Tmrealtors, would love to see a pick of the Dive / the lake from your property...


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[fatlazyless]

Believe the yellow house is on the left side of Simpson Ave, down the bottom of the slope, on the waterfront, and there is a second house, on the right side of the road, whose view is slightly more impinged because it is a little closer to the Winnipesaukee Pier and The Dive.

Maybe someone can post a Google Earth photo view, as seen from their satellite in the sky?

For the homeowner with the blocked view, the thing to do is go to the Marine Patrol in Gilford at the Glendale Docks and talk to someone there, in person. The Marine Patrol has been through similar issues many times and is very professional and acts like an unbiased referee between two waterfront neighbors with an issue, and will go look at the situation.

[joey2665]

I like the Dive but that is not right


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[fatlazyless]

Could be the Mount Washington has had conversations with the Marine Patrol and Laconia Zoning and would be happy for The Dive to stay way away from them, around behind the Winnipesaukee Pier, and basically out of sight.

Could be why the Marine Patrol and Laconia Zoning is slow to make any moves, after all, the Mount Washington is the big fish in the lake.

[webmaster]

Originally Posted by GBGX2

Come down to the Weirs for the Dive’s sophomore season opening!!! We have fire pits and big heaters on and ready to go!

From the wording of the original post it seems like GBGX2 is involved with the Dive.

[SAMIAM]

Originally Posted by webmaster

From the wording of the original post it seems like GBGX2 is involved with the Dive.

I can see the value of a business owner plugging their business to the forums many subscribers but wondering if that is within the rules.
I'd love to post specials and notices about my business but didn't think advertising was allowed.

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by SAMIAM

I can see the value of a business owner plugging their business to the forums many subscribers but wondering if that is within the rules.

I'd love to post specials and notices about my business but didn't think advertising was allowed.

Maybe the webmaster can start a restaurant section similar to the classifieds were you can post menus, specials openings etc. I think many would view is as food is always a major topic this site.


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[webmaster]

Originally Posted by SAMIAM

I can see the value of a business owner plugging their business to the forums many subscribers but wondering if that is within the rules.
I'd love to post specials and notices about my business but didn't think advertising was allowed.

I'd rather not see weekly specials announcements posted but since this is the "Restaurant Information..." section I don't mind at all if the owners post information occasionally about their businesses that our readers would be interested in. If your restaurant is doing something new or has a significant change certainly let us forum readers know. If you do it wisely you can both benefit your business and stay within the "no advertisement" rule. A good example of how that can be done is Baygo. If you follow his posts you know that he owns Tavern 27 and have learned quite a bit about the place. He recently posted a poll about his new distillery. That could be viewed as promotional but it's also the kind of fun and information this section is for. I assume many forum readers would like to know when the distillery is operational and I hope he tells us. If that sends some business his way that's great. I don't think he's ever posted anything I'd consider a blatant advertisement.

Another great way to help your business it to simply monitor the forum and answer questions. If somebody asks where you can get Prime Rib at the lake it is perfectly fine to reply and say "We've got the best Prime Rib around! Come on over!" and even slip in other information and your menu.

Having said all that I'll admit that the original post does kind of cross the line into an advertisement but I let it go because of the tremendous interest in the Dive and the desire for more information. Regular forum visitors know that the rules get bent quite often but if the Dive starts posting their weekend drink specials I may have to step in.

[SAMIAM]

Originally Posted by webmaster

I'd rather not see weekly specials announcements posted but since this is the "Restaurant Information..." section I don't mind at all if the owners post information occasionally about their businesses that our readers would be interested in. If your restaurant is doing something new or has a significant change certainly let us forum readers know. If you do it wisely you can both benefit your business and stay within the "no advertisement" rule. A good example of how that can be done is Baygo. If you follow his posts you know that he owns Tavern 27 and have learned quite a bit about the place. He recently posted a poll about his new distillery. That could be viewed as promotional but it's also the kind of fun and information this section is for. I assume many forum readers would like to know when the distillery is operational and I hope he tells us. If that sends some business his way that's great. I don't think he's ever posted anything I'd consider a blatant advertisement.

Another great way to help your business it to simply monitor the forum and answer questions. If somebody asks where you can get Prime Rib at the lake it is perfectly fine to reply and say "We've got the best Prime Rib around! Come on over!" and even slip in other information and your menu.

Having said all that I'll admit that the original post does kind of cross the line into an advertisement but I let it go because of the tremendous interest in the Dive and the desire for more information. Regular forum visitors know that the rules get bent quite often but if the Dive starts posting their weekend drink specials I may have to step in.

Thanks for explaining. Sounds very reasonable. Two weeks ago I was going to make a post that we were closing for a week to install a new kitchen floor but didn't know if that was acceptable. Seems like it would have been ok now that you've explained it. Appreciate the job you do.

[Mr. V]

Originally Posted by webmaster

From the wording of the original post it seems like GBGX2 is involved with the Dive.

Indeed.

HGBFX2 has also, understandably, been MIA and chosen not to wade in the perilous waters of this thread.

No sense letting yourself become a target.

[GBGX2]

Originally Posted by webmaster

From the wording of the original post it seems like GBGX2 is involved with the Dive.

While I have met the owners once in person over a year ago, I have not had the occasion to speak to them or see them since. I have no inside knowledge or financial interest in the venture.

My original post was just quoting their Facebook page, thought it was a great picture- that’s it!

Cheers!

[Homerun]

looking forward to some cocktails and some good times with family and friends. ithink the move to the weirs was a great business move and i hear they will be headed out on the lake on occasion. i wish them the best.

[sum-r breeze]

We went to The Dive today for lunch and some cocktails. What an awesome experience The owners Jamie and Betsy do a phenomenal job with hospitality. They move from table to table conversing with their patrons and making each and every one of us feel like old friends. The outdoor atmosphere and the “on water” feel of the dive was something entirely different for the Weirs and a welcomed change from the other offerings there. The food was good and fresh and the drinks were fantastic. Great job Jamie and Betsy! You brought something new and exciting to the Weirs! Best of luck for a successful season! (Paulie from good fellas)

[Top-Water]

Stumbled across this ......... what do you think came to mind.

[Hillcountry]

Originally Posted by Top-Water

Stumbled across this ......... what do you think came to mind.

Weirs dive 6 la-da-da-da-da-daaa
Weirs dive 6 la-da-da-da-da-daaa
Weirs dive 6 la-da-da-da-da-daaaaaa
At the Flightcraft docks!

[Phantom]

Respecting the change that occurred to the owners on Simpson Dr. from the water side this has a completely different perspective.

[fatlazyless]

...... FAKE NEWS! ..... that's from the outside look'n in ..... you need to consider the view from the inside look'n out .... which is a different scale ..... and a different view ..... for the last 119+ years has been an open view


Look'n out from shore, The Dive barge structure is very close and takes up a greater width of the view than when viewed from further out on the water and look'n at it. Is all about perspective and scale as viewed from up close or further away.

Any way you look at it …. is one big ugly, floating restaurant, size 24' x 62' x 30' that clutters up the view, shows up with no advance notice, makes no effort to talk with the neighbors, introduces sounds, smells, and people activity where there was none before into a recreation non-commercial use lake area ….. and looks to be there permanently for years and years and years.

[robmac]

If abutters have concerns speak with the owners and if not fruitful then check Marine patrol and or the town. It's a business and I for one don't see an issue. I do recall friends of mine renting that property so unless its changed hands are the owners actually there all the time? These owners have invested what I can only imagine the number of hours and dollars preparing for it to be on the water so again I would think they would have looked into all possible pitfalls. BTW haven't been yet don't know the owners or have any money invested.

[Outdoorsman]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

...... introduces sounds, smells, and people activity where there was none before into a recreation non-commercial use lake area ….. and looks to be there permanently for years and years and years.

Every bit of the above is false. It is docked on the pier of Weirs Blvd and there are plenty of commercial use vessels on the lake. The M/S Mount Washington comes to mind.... and that is only yards away The Dive.

[pjard]

Originally Posted by Outdoorsman

Every bit of the above is false. It is docked on the pier of Weirs Blvd and there are plenty of commercial use vessels on the lake. The M/S Mount Washington comes to mind.... and that is only yards away The Dive.

Sorry but The Dive is an eyesore on this awesome lake. I don't post many complaints on this forum but I hate that monstrosity.

[Outdoorsman]

Originally Posted by pjard

Sorry but The Dive is an eyesore on this awesome lake. I don't post many complaints on this forum but I hate that monstrosity.

Nevertheless; everything in the quote that I was addressing is just plain false. I am sure you can agree with that at least.

Originally Posted by fatlazyless View Post
...... introduces sounds, smells, and people activity where there was none before into a recreation non-commercial use lake area ….. and looks to be there permanently for years and years and years.

As for it being there permanently, the same was said last summer when it sat at the sand bar and that proved to be false.

[Top-Water]

The original party boat? I don't know. Imagine the outrage back then. The current lakes region party boat is not my cup of tea either, but not an obsession. Just a little weird for my taste. Hard to warm up to. But others seem to be enjoying it so I'll deal with it.

[garysanfran]

Where did it go?

[webmaster]

Originally Posted by garysanfran

Where did it go?

At the gas dock. You can check the gas dock with this webcam:

https://flightcraft.lakehost.net/index.php/webcam/

[garysanfran]

A confusing location.

Is this just for a "pump out"?

[upthesaukee]

Oops Gary, you lost it again

Dave

[Rich]

Will this be the new 'Where's Waldo' for Lake Winni?

Where's the Dive?

[garysanfran]

Originally Posted by Phantom

Respecting the change that occurred to the owners on Simpson Dr. from the water side this has a completely different perspective.

You would not see that house, whereas a few weeks ago you would. The Dive is blocking that section.

I don't have much of an opinion on this. It's not my battle and I have other things of more concern...HOWEVER!

Now you also have a business with lots of people in your view and viewing back. Wasn't like that before. It doesn't appear that would have been the case with Anthony's...Plus Anthony's is in a building that has been there since the time of the glaciers, well maybe the Irwins.

How is Anthony's doing?

[joey2665]

Dive is at its mooring location behind Anthony’s and has announced extended hours for bike week closing at midnight every night


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[Hillcountry]

Originally Posted by joey2665

Dive is at its mooring location behind Anthony’s and has announced extended hours for bike week closing at midnight every night


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Mooring or tied up to the dock? They should have a very good bike week at this location!

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by Hillcountry

Mooring or tied up to the dock? They should have a very good bike week at this location!

Sorry you are correct it’s tied up. You cannot pull up with a boat you must walk on via the pier.


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