NHEC sticker shock

steve-on-mark · 01-18-2023, 11:53 AM

Anybody else puzzled by the latest co-op bill?? Ours was over 400 bucks and not only have we been off island for almost 2 months, but power was out for a good portion of that time. Am I missing something??

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thinkxingu · 01-18-2023, 12:10 PM

NHEC rates went from 9.62¢ to 16.98¢ per kWh back in August, so you should've seen a sizable increase back then.

Anything other than that is either stuff still drawing power or an NHEC error, right?

The rate will drop to 13.78¢ on February 1st.

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steve-on-mark · 01-18-2023, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by thinkxingu

NHEC rates went from 9.62¢ to 16.98¢ per kWh back in August, so you should've seen a sizable increase back then.

Anything other than that is either stuff still drawing power or an NHEC error, right?

The rate will drop to 13.78¢ on February 1st.

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Oh I know about the increase! The only things drawing are the septic pump and circulator which is on a thermostat and timer. I had a thought that it might just be an estimated amount based on past usage, but we moved out end of November.

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bigdog · 01-18-2023, 04:57 PM

My electric bill is 'up' by ab out 40% ! Not sure folks can do anything about this increase by utility company.

No plans to change my way of living or cutting back electrical use.

tummyman · 01-18-2023, 06:36 PM

I would call NHEC. Since meter readings are taken from the meter electronically, the power outages may have screwed things up. And since the billing is for one month usage, then you really have a reason to call them ASAP.

Let us all know what they say.

tummyman · 01-18-2023, 07:11 PM

New data...just got my current bill. KWH's are way over what my normal winter usage is. Seems there is a problem. Will call them tomorrow....

codeman671 · 01-18-2023, 08:33 PM

I just got my Eversource bill at the house. $1695.00! No joke! You’d think I was running an electric chair in the basement…

Granted we don’t have an oil bill and our propane just serves the hot water but still. This is nuts!

I guess my intended solar system will need to be a lot bigger. Maybe an acres worth…

tis · 01-19-2023, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by codeman671

I just got my Eversource bill at the house. $1695.00! No joke! You’d think I was running an electric chair in the basement…

Granted we don’t have an oil bill and our propane just serves the hot water but still. This is nuts!

I guess my intended solar system will need to be a lot bigger. Maybe an acres worth…

OMG! I would have a heart attack! We had a sewer pump stuck on once and that used a lot. Maybe it's something like that? We had a hard time tracking down what it was but finally did.

thinkxingu · 01-19-2023, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by codeman671

I just got my Eversource bill at the house. $1695.00! No joke! You’d think I was running an electric chair in the basement…

Granted we don’t have an oil bill and our propane just serves the hot water but still. This is nuts!

I guess my intended solar system will need to be a lot bigger. Maybe an acres worth…

That's 60% of my yearly costs...for both homes, and we have electric baseboard heat!

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John Mercier · 01-19-2023, 09:00 AM

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That's 60% of my yearly costs...for both homes, and we have electric baseboard heat!

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If you're burning wood. The baseboard thermostat is not requesting electricity to produce more heat.

We tend toward ''convenience'' when things are cheap, and demand goes up so much that things start getting expensive.

steve-on-mark · 01-19-2023, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by codeman671

I just got my Eversource bill at the house. $1695.00! No joke! You’d think I was running an electric chair in the basement…

Granted we don’t have an oil bill and our propane just serves the hot water but still. This is nuts!

I guess my intended solar system will need to be a lot bigger. Maybe an acres worth…

Maybe a windmill farm up on the hill should be on next year's Christmas list...

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ishoot308 · 01-19-2023, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by codeman671

I just got my Eversource bill at the house. $1695.00! No joke! You’d think I was running an electric chair in the basement…

Granted we don’t have an oil bill and our propane just serves the hot water but still. This is nuts!

I guess my intended solar system will need to be a lot bigger. Maybe an acres worth…

I would definitely confirm that either your well pump or septic pump (if you have a pump up system) is not stuck on.This happened to someone else I know (septic pump) and their electric bill was quite high...worth a check.

Dan

codeman671 · 01-19-2023, 12:42 PM

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I would definitely confirm that either your well pump or septic pump (if you have a pump up system) is not stuck on.This happened to someone else I know (septic pump) and their electric bill was quite high...worth a check.

Dan

We don't have a sewer pump and our well isn't running. We have a newer variable speed pump with electronic controller. It is our Samsung hvac system most likely. Its our main source of heat so it runs all the time. We don't pay for oil or LP for heat, so there is no other bill offsetting it. We do have LP/FHW baseboard backup in the lower level, I am going to kill the downstairs splits and try that for a while. With $2.07 propane I am better off using that.

Beyond that its time to get my solar installed and turn into the energy-meiser.

ishoot308 · 01-19-2023, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by codeman671

We don't have a sewer pump and our well isn't running. We have a newer variable speed pump with electronic controller. It is our Samsung hvac system most likely. Its our main source of heat so it runs all the time. We don't pay for oil or LP for heat, so there is no other bill offsetting it. We do have LP/FHW baseboard backup in the lower level, I am going to kill the downstairs splits and try that for a while. With $2.07 propane I am better off using that.

Beyond that its time to get my solar installed and turn into the energy-meiser.

How many square feet are you heating??

codeman671 · 01-19-2023, 01:39 PM

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How many square feet are you heating??

Its about 5000. We do get a fair amount of solar gain though, and have full spray foam and new windows/doors.

Woodsy · 01-19-2023, 02:10 PM

Steve...

Its quite possible your t-stat for the circulator failed and its running constantly.

Woodsy

steve-on-mark · 01-19-2023, 02:30 PM

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Steve...

Its quite possible your t-stat for the circulator failed and its running constantly.

Woodsy

however, I doubt that both the thermostat and timer failed...not to mention that the island was without power or over 2 weeks at least...on my agenda of phone calls to make at lunchtime today.

Senter Cove Guy · 01-19-2023, 02:42 PM

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...With $2.07 propane I am better off using that...

Wow! Where are you getting that great propane price?

codeman671 · 01-19-2023, 03:11 PM

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Wow! Where are you getting that great propane price?

Irving. I signed up for the Fuel Club this fall and it has been great. Plus we get discounts at the pump using the rewards card- they load discounts to it from my propane purchases.

steve-on-mark · 01-19-2023, 05:02 PM

Just got off the phone with NHEC... the cycle for this bill started 11/23, and I officially closed the house Dec. 11, so that explains the usage. The agent told me the power went out 12/24 and wasn't restored til 1/17 so next month's bill should be miniscule by comparison.

TiltonBB · 01-19-2023, 10:02 PM

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Wow! Where are you getting that great propane price?

I paid $1.86 in November and $1.72 in January for a property in Gilford. There are lower prices out there!

John Mercier · 01-19-2023, 11:37 PM

I guess we are all lucky that it has been a fairly mild winter.

ishoot308 · 01-19-2023, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by codeman671

We don't have a sewer pump and our well isn't running. We have a newer variable speed pump with electronic controller. It is our Samsung hvac system most likely. Its our main source of heat so it runs all the time. We don't pay for oil or LP for heat, so there is no other bill offsetting it. We do have LP/FHW baseboard backup in the lower level, I am going to kill the downstairs splits and try that for a while. With $2.07 propane I am better off using that.

Beyond that its time to get my solar installed and turn into the energy-meiser.

If you haven't already, it may be worth signing up for "Direct Energy" as talked about in this thread...seemed like a no brainer to me so I signed up...

https://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums...=energy+direct

Dan

WinnisquamZ · 01-18-2023, 09:06 PM

That seem a bit much. Would ask for a meter reading before going off the deep end

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01-18-2023, 11:53 AM	#1
steve-on-mark Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Epping, NH / Mark Island Posts: 1,887 Thanks: 189 Thanked 737 Times in 430 Posts	NHEC sticker shock Anybody else puzzled by the latest co-op bill?? Ours was over 400 bucks and not only have we been off island for almost 2 months, but power was out for a good portion of that time. Am I missing something?? Sent from my Pixel 6 using Tapatalk __________________ ....keeping " urban decay " out of photos for nearly 3 years!

01-19-2023, 02:10 PM	#16
Woodsy Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Weirs Beach Posts: 1,968 Thanks: 80 Thanked 980 Times in 440 Posts	Steve... Its quite possible your t-stat for the circulator failed and its running constantly. Woodsy __________________ The only way to eliminate ignorant behavior is through education. You can't fix stupid.

01-19-2023, 05:02 PM	#20
steve-on-mark Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Epping, NH / Mark Island Posts: 1,887 Thanks: 189 Thanked 737 Times in 430 Posts	Problem explained Just got off the phone with NHEC... the cycle for this bill started 11/23, and I officially closed the house Dec. 11, so that explains the usage. The agent told me the power went out 12/24 and wasn't restored til 1/17 so next month's bill should be miniscule by comparison. __________________ ....keeping " urban decay " out of photos for nearly 3 years!

01-18-2023, 12:10 PM	#2
thinkxingu Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 6,395 Thanks: 1,179 Thanked 2,128 Times in 1,317 Posts	NHEC rates went from 9.62¢ to 16.98¢ per kWh back in August, so you should've seen a sizable increase back then. Anything other than that is either stuff still drawing power or an NHEC error, right? The rate will drop to 13.78¢ on February 1st. Sent from my SM-G990U1 using Tapatalk

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01-18-2023, 04:57 PM	#4
bigdog Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Central MA-Gilford Posts: 1,452 Thanks: 347 Thanked 124 Times in 98 Posts	My electric bill is 'up' by ab out 40% ! Not sure folks can do anything about this increase by utility company. No plans to change my way of living or cutting back electrical use.

01-18-2023, 06:36 PM	#5
tummyman Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 845 Thanks: 261 Thanked 698 Times in 246 Posts	I would call NHEC. Since meter readings are taken from the meter electronically, the power outages may have screwed things up. And since the billing is for one month usage, then you really have a reason to call them ASAP. Let us all know what they say.

01-18-2023, 07:11 PM	#6
tummyman Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 845 Thanks: 261 Thanked 698 Times in 246 Posts	New data...just got my current bill. KWH's are way over what my normal winter usage is. Seems there is a problem. Will call them tomorrow....

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01-18-2023, 08:33 PM	#7
codeman671 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,540 Thanks: 222 Thanked 828 Times in 499 Posts	I just got my Eversource bill at the house. $1695.00! No joke! You’d think I was running an electric chair in the basement… Granted we don’t have an oil bill and our propane just serves the hot water but still. This is nuts! I guess my intended solar system will need to be a lot bigger. Maybe an acres worth…

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John Mercier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 3,527 Thanks: 3 Thanked 628 Times in 517 Posts	I guess we are all lucky that it has been a fairly mild winter.

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WinnisquamZ Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 2,113 Thanks: 214 Thanked 676 Times in 449 Posts	That seem a bit much. Would ask for a meter reading before going off the deep end Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app