Alton Bay Pavillion Fire

riverat · 12-14-2006, 08:57 AM

At this time the pavillion is burning!
http://www.fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dll...EWS05/61214023

Weirs guy · 12-14-2006, 09:00 AM

Weirs girls been detoured on her way into work through Alton Bay, so I lost my "on the scene" report. Anyone see anything?

riverat · 12-14-2006, 09:12 AM

That must be long detour, not many ways around the bay.

Weirs guy · 12-14-2006, 09:16 AM

The detour went through Meredith...

It was a shorter detour then I had thought and she did manage to sneak a peak and it doesn't sound good. TO HER it looked like most of the building would be a total loss with the fire raging pretty good right now and apparently not under control.

riverat · 12-14-2006, 09:20 AM

I can still see smoke from my place and smell it and I am almost three miles away.
I was not too keen on the condos, but anything is better than vacant lot. What bit of history remained with that building is no lost. A sad day for Winni

riverat · 12-14-2006, 09:23 AM

I can still see smoke from my place and smell it and I am almost three miles away.
I was not too keen on the condos, but anything is better than vacant lot. What bit of history remained with that building is now lost. A sad day for Winni

mg2107 · 12-14-2006, 09:43 AM

This is almost as big a tragedy as the Oak Birch Inn. What a land mark.Please post pix asap folks.thanks

Weirs guy · 12-14-2006, 10:26 AM

The fire has gone to a 3rd alarm.

Paugus Bay Resident · 12-14-2006, 10:50 AM

Here's the latest http://www.unionleader.com/article.a...1-442103e406c0
Sounds like its a total loss.

nj2nh · 12-14-2006, 11:57 AM

http://www.wmur.com/news/10532151/detail.html

My mom in Massachusetts heard this on the news and phoned me here in Jersey. How sad. First the Oak Birch Inn, the Old Man and now this. I feel like my childhood history is just disappearing and my children won't be able to experience it

A sad, sad day for Alton Bay.

Jersey Girl

gtxrider · 12-14-2006, 12:08 PM

I hope the developer has insurance! Last time I saw the building this summer it was just studs and a roof. Now it seems its gone.

nj2nh · 12-14-2006, 12:10 PM

I also heard, and please, please, correct me if I am wrong, that the developer can now build any sort of building he wants there including something with multiple stories. Could that be true???/

Jersey Girl

mcdude · 12-14-2006, 12:37 PM

Someone has sent me these photos at work. Regretfully I don't have time to upload and post them all right now!

thanks Ray for sending these along!

riverat · 12-14-2006, 12:43 PM

it totally gone

http://fdimg.sv.publicus.com/apps/pb...ef=V2&MaxW=250

mcdude · 12-14-2006, 12:45 PM

mcdude · 12-14-2006, 12:54 PM

Alton Mumma · 12-14-2006, 01:01 PM

I have a friend that lives right on the Bay, she called me this morning. The fire trucks woke her at 6:30 and put her into a total panic. She looked out the window and saw the Pavilion in flames! She took pics, I'll see if I can get them from her to upload and share.

Such a sad day

Another part of our history gone...

superduty · 12-14-2006, 01:01 PM

Sad loss to Alton Bay, condo's or not. Pray for the safety of all those at the scene. I hope the contractor had insurance and I hope this was a construction accident. I have heard of several arson fires in empty buildings recently in the Alton area and this is much desturbing if this is one of them.

Onshore · 12-14-2006, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jersey Girl

I also heard, and please, please, correct me if I am wrong, that the developer can now build any sort of building he wants there including something with multiple stories. Could that be true???/

Jersey Girl

That would be false. He is limited by the Comprehenesive Shoreland Protection Act. He will need to build/ rebuild within the limits of what his original waiver and permits allowed.

riverat · 12-14-2006, 04:04 PM

Took these at 1:00 PM, looked like pretty much fire oiut around 1:30PM

flyguy · 12-14-2006, 04:25 PM

Definitely not "burned to the ground" as some reported, but certainly a total loss.

mcdude · 12-14-2006, 06:58 PM

bigpapi34 · 12-21-2006, 09:33 PM

the call was bad. i was called to that. too bad that place was so old

mg2107 · 12-21-2006, 10:47 PM

Thanks Jersey Girl I have never seen the two story version before.Any date on the postcard? What year did that one burn?

upthesaukee · 12-21-2006, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mg2107

Thanks Jersey Girl I have never seen the two story version before.Any date on the postcard? What year did that one burn?

Published reports here locally have said 1928 (I think) for the first fire.

nj2nh · 12-22-2006, 08:55 PM

Sorry, MG2107, no date on the card. It wasn't mailed.

Jersey Girl

mcdude · 12-29-2006, 12:03 PM

From the Baysider

Quote:

The word around the site indicates that aggressive reconstruction plans are in the works. Neither building owner Lee Maserian, nor general contractor Jerry DeLemus, could be reached for comment, but it has been revealed, though not officially, that the building will be reconstructed with two stories instead of just one, and with an anticipated completion date prior to summer.

Aquadeziac · 12-29-2006, 08:59 PM

so shore thing is incorrect and the developer does NOT have to abide by the Comprehensive Shoreland Protection Act? Exactly what does the CSPA state? Or does he have enough grease to slide around the CSPA? Inquiring minds want to know.

Pineedles · 12-29-2006, 09:31 PM

So.... is there any info on the cause and the perpetrators?

12-14-2006, 08:57 AM	#1
riverat Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Alton, NH Posts: 722 Thanks: 337 Thanked 280 Times in 123 Posts	Alton Bay Pavillion Fire At this time the pavillion is burning! http://www.fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dll...EWS05/61214023 __________________ Waking up in the morning is the greatest, everything after that is a bonus

12-14-2006, 09:00 AM	#2
Weirs guy Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Weirs Beach, NH Posts: 1,067 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Weirs girls been detoured on her way into work through Alton Bay, so I lost my "on the scene" report. Anyone see anything? __________________ Is it bikeweek yet? Now?

12-14-2006, 09:12 AM	#3
riverat Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Alton, NH Posts: 722 Thanks: 337 Thanked 280 Times in 123 Posts	That must be long detour, not many ways around the bay. __________________ Waking up in the morning is the greatest, everything after that is a bonus

12-14-2006, 09:16 AM	#4
Weirs guy Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Weirs Beach, NH Posts: 1,067 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	The detour went through Meredith... It was a shorter detour then I had thought and she did manage to sneak a peak and it doesn't sound good. TO HER it looked like most of the building would be a total loss with the fire raging pretty good right now and apparently not under control. __________________ Is it bikeweek yet? Now?

12-14-2006, 09:20 AM	#5
riverat Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Alton, NH Posts: 722 Thanks: 337 Thanked 280 Times in 123 Posts	I can still see smoke from my place and smell it and I am almost three miles away. I was not too keen on the condos, but anything is better than vacant lot. What bit of history remained with that building is no lost. A sad day for Winni __________________ Waking up in the morning is the greatest, everything after that is a bonus

12-14-2006, 09:23 AM	#6
riverat Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Alton, NH Posts: 722 Thanks: 337 Thanked 280 Times in 123 Posts	I can still see smoke from my place and smell it and I am almost three miles away. I was not too keen on the condos, but anything is better than vacant lot. What bit of history remained with that building is now lost. A sad day for Winni __________________ Waking up in the morning is the greatest, everything after that is a bonus

12-14-2006, 09:43 AM	#7
mg2107 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 169 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	This is almost as big a tragedy as the Oak Birch Inn. What a land mark.Please post pix asap folks.thanks

12-14-2006, 10:26 AM	#8
Weirs guy Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Weirs Beach, NH Posts: 1,067 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	The fire has gone to a 3rd alarm. __________________ Is it bikeweek yet? Now?

12-14-2006, 10:50 AM	#9
Paugus Bay Resident Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Gilmanton, NH Posts: 754 Thanks: 135 Thanked 93 Times in 51 Posts	Here's the latest http://www.unionleader.com/article.a...1-442103e406c0 Sounds like its a total loss.

12-14-2006, 11:57 AM	#10
nj2nh Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 535 Thanks: 86 Thanked 47 Times in 27 Posts	Here's some video http://www.wmur.com/news/10532151/detail.html My mom in Massachusetts heard this on the news and phoned me here in Jersey. How sad. First the Oak Birch Inn, the Old Man and now this. I feel like my childhood history is just disappearing and my children won't be able to experience it A sad, sad day for Alton Bay. Jersey Girl

12-14-2006, 12:08 PM	#11
gtxrider Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Piscataway, NJ Posts: 1,030 Thanks: 2 Thanked 46 Times in 24 Posts	Fire! I hope the developer has insurance! Last time I saw the building this summer it was just studs and a roof. Now it seems its gone.

12-14-2006, 12:10 PM	#12
nj2nh Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 535 Thanks: 86 Thanked 47 Times in 27 Posts	Also heard . . . I also heard, and please, please, correct me if I am wrong, that the developer can now build any sort of building he wants there including something with multiple stories. Could that be true???/ Jersey Girl

12-14-2006, 12:37 PM	#13
mcdude Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Rock Haven Lake - West Newfield, ME Posts: 5,343 Thanks: 370 Thanked 1,033 Times in 480 Posts	Someone has sent me these photos at work. Regretfully I don't have time to upload and post them all right now! thanks Ray for sending these along!

12-14-2006, 12:43 PM	#14
riverat Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Alton, NH Posts: 722 Thanks: 337 Thanked 280 Times in 123 Posts	it totally gone http://fdimg.sv.publicus.com/apps/pb...ef=V2&MaxW=250 __________________ Waking up in the morning is the greatest, everything after that is a bonus

12-14-2006, 12:45 PM	#15
mcdude Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Rock Haven Lake - West Newfield, ME Posts: 5,343 Thanks: 370 Thanked 1,033 Times in 480 Posts

12-14-2006, 12:54 PM	#16
mcdude Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Rock Haven Lake - West Newfield, ME Posts: 5,343 Thanks: 370 Thanked 1,033 Times in 480 Posts

12-14-2006, 01:01 PM	#17
Alton Mumma Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Alton NH Posts: 41 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have a friend that lives right on the Bay, she called me this morning. The fire trucks woke her at 6:30 and put her into a total panic. She looked out the window and saw the Pavilion in flames! She took pics, I'll see if I can get them from her to upload and share. Such a sad day Another part of our history gone... __________________ Alton Mumma "Living with a toddler is like using a blender without the cover."

12-14-2006, 01:01 PM	#18
superduty Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Fire Sad loss to Alton Bay, condo's or not. Pray for the safety of all those at the scene. I hope the contractor had insurance and I hope this was a construction accident. I have heard of several arson fires in empty buildings recently in the Alton area and this is much desturbing if this is one of them.

12-14-2006, 04:04 PM	#20
riverat Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Alton, NH Posts: 722 Thanks: 337 Thanked 280 Times in 123 Posts	A few pictures at 1:00PM Took these at 1:00 PM, looked like pretty much fire oiut around 1:30PM Attached Images __________________ Waking up in the morning is the greatest, everything after that is a bonus

12-14-2006, 04:25 PM	#21
flyguy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Laconia NH Posts: 383 Thanks: 9 Thanked 101 Times in 20 Posts	Alton Pavillion Fire Photo (Aerial) Definitely not "burned to the ground" as some reported, but certainly a total loss. __________________ Bill Hemmel LakesRegionAerials.com "We have a slightly different point of view"

12-14-2006, 06:58 PM	#22
mcdude Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Rock Haven Lake - West Newfield, ME Posts: 5,343 Thanks: 370 Thanked 1,033 Times in 480 Posts	More Photos

12-21-2006, 09:33 PM	#23
bigpapi34 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: meredith Posts: 27 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	bad the call was bad. i was called to that. too bad that place was so old

12-21-2006, 10:47 PM	#24
mg2107 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 169 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Thanks Jersey Girl I have never seen the two story version before.Any date on the postcard? What year did that one burn?

12-22-2006, 08:55 PM	#26
nj2nh Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 535 Thanks: 86 Thanked 47 Times in 27 Posts	Date of postcard Sorry, MG2107, no date on the card. It wasn't mailed. Jersey Girl

12-29-2006, 08:59 PM	#28
Aquadeziac Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Concord NH Posts: 239 Thanks: 19 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	so shore thing is incorrect and the developer does NOT have to abide by the Comprehensive Shoreland Protection Act? Exactly what does the CSPA state? Or does he have enough grease to slide around the CSPA? Inquiring minds want to know. __________________ "He who dies with the most toys wins"

12-29-2006, 09:31 PM	#29
Pineedles Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Moultonborough & CT Posts: 2,550 Thanks: 1,072 Thanked 672 Times in 369 Posts	Arson? So.... is there any info on the cause and the perpetrators?