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Old 09-03-2007, 10:23 PM   #1
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Default Boating in October

This may be a very stupid question, but there aren't any kind of boating restrictions in October are there? I'm planning on coming up Sept 30- Oct 8 and will be bringing my boat. I'm going to take the NASBLA certificate online test here.

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Old 09-04-2007, 03:29 AM   #2
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Default no restrictions

but water will be low, so watch for hazards. Gas docks aren't open as regularly. Also there are fewer people out there to help in case of trouble so keep that in mind.

you should see some nice color - the views shoud be spectactular.
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Old 09-04-2007, 03:57 AM   #3
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There will be more days of heavy winds and waters.

Bring a sweater.

Also, there is still a Marine Patrol presence—made worse by boredom. If you see a small boat with a white radome on top—head in the opposite direction!
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Old 09-04-2007, 07:26 AM   #4
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Salmon fishing ends Sept 30. A lot of the waterfront tourist businesses close on Labor Day. The lake is extra beautiful with the foilage. A lot of people put their boats away around Columbus Day. Open gas docks are few and far between after Columbus Day.
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Old 09-04-2007, 08:04 AM   #5
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Default On-Line certifications not honorred in NH

For a variety of reasons, the State of New Hampshire changed the law on Safety Certificates last year.

Online certificates isued after December 31, 2006, will not be recognised as valid. You need to take a proctored test. All other courses that meet NABLA/USCG standards for this type of certification will be accepted as long as the test was in person and appropriatly suprvised.

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Old 09-04-2007, 09:39 AM   #6
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Thanks for the replys. I'm not worried about gas docks, we have a lot of gas jugs at the house. I would really like to see the foliage that's for sure. I'll have to give NH F&G a call today and see what they have to say about the stupid certificate.
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I just got off the phone with Marine patrol and they DO recognize the safety certificate issued by North Carolina Wildlife resource commision (NC Fish and Game), so I'll have to go get that and then I'll be good.
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For a variety of reasons, the State of New Hampshire changed the law on Safety Certificates last year.

Online certificates isued after December 31, 2006, will not be recognised as valid. You need to take a proctored test. All other courses that meet NABLA/USCG standards for this type of certification will be accepted as long as the test was in person and appropriatly suprvised.

Good luck!
Kamper - sorry but that is not correct. Perhaps you missed it but we went through this in another thread and it was positively determined that ALL NASBLA certificates are OK in NH. It doesn't matter how the test was taken. Out of state certificates are good.

The last few posts in this thread explain it.


http://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/...t=certificates
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Old 09-04-2007, 11:40 AM   #9
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Kamper - sorry but that is not correct. ... The last few posts in this thread explain it.

http://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/...t=certificates
You got that right about the last few threads! lol.

Ok, to summarise that other post. If you took a NASBLA course online but the card you received says issued by (a state), it is good in NH.
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Old 09-04-2007, 12:21 PM   #10
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Default Lake color

I love boating on the lake in the fall (also the spring) because the mad summer rush is over, things are quieter and generally more accessible. The weather, as like always, can play a major part in your enjoyment. If it goes right the days are still pleasant and the nights are crisp and refreshing.

I would comment on expectations about fall colors on the lake. I have noticed that although the colors in the surrounding area start changing in early October, the area at the lake shore often doesn't peak until later in October. I suspect this is because the lake water keeps the temps a bit warmer and slows the color process. This is not to say that there won't be any color but if you want to see the best displays you may want to plan a car trip around the area as well. The local TV station, WMUR, keeps info on their weather web site about where to see the best color from week to week.
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Old 09-04-2007, 01:16 PM   #11
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I have found that the lake is fine thru mid month, but after that the boats really thin out which could make one wonder. I have noticed that some foliage has started already timing seems to be everything for that, but it is never the same.
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The lake is beautiful but very lonely, and the water is cold. If you have a problem it can be a long time until the next boat comes along. Bring a cell phone.
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Old 09-04-2007, 07:24 PM   #13
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The boat has a trolling motor for fishing that will run all day to get us home in case the outboard has issues, two batteries and we probably won't go past Moultonborough bay. My favorite fishing is in Greens basin. We have year round neighbors next to us and my dad will be fishing with me. I'm not too worried about being stranded. I'm looking forward to some cold. We just went through the hottest August in recorded history. It got to 105 about four times and every day of the month but like two were over 90. I'm ready for sweater weather.
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I'm ready for sweater weather.
On behalf of the New Hampshire welcoming committee. We guarantee you will get some sweater weather. My favorite. Heat is on in the cabin tonight.
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Old 09-05-2007, 11:11 AM   #15
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On behalf of the New Hampshire welcoming committee. We guarantee you will get some sweater weather. My favorite. Heat is on in the cabin tonight.

Also know as LAST NIGHT! But no worries, it'll be almost 90° this weekend!

Homewood, to jeffk's point plan to take a ride up through the white mountains during your stay, preferably over the Kangamangus Highway.
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Also know as LAST NIGHT! But no worries, it'll be almost 90° this weekend!

Homewood, to jeffk's point plan to take a ride up through the white mountains during your stay, preferably over the Kangamangus Highway.

We were up at the Kangamangus Highway on Friday (Oct 5th) - was absolutely spectacular!!...definitely appeared to be at peak foliage up there. Can't wait until the peak colors move south through Winnie - we still have a lot to look forward to foliage-wise.
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Old 09-05-2007, 11:38 AM   #17
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Default October is some of the best & worst

October has given me some of my best boating memories on this lake. No more Capt. Bonehead crowding the waters, lots of solitude, and fall brings very dry air that makes for some of the best visibility we ever get. Add deep blue skies overlooking hillsides covered with bright-red and orange trees, and you've got something special that a lot of people never get to see.

JeffK, you're right on the delayed foliage schedule on the lake shore. Black Cat Island's leaves usually lag behind the mainland's fall color by about a week, and the immediate shoreline can lag by 2 weeks. Like you, I'm pretty sure that's because of the water temp. We usually have to wait until November for our first frost, even when they're scraping their windshields just a mile away on the mainland.

Beware though - October has two faces. It can be a very nasty weather month on Winni. Sunny, windy cold days with an average chop have left my windshield and clothing covered in ice from the spray over the bow. October usually brings the first arctic cold fronts that can whip winds from Center Harbor to Wolfeborough at 40+ mph.

It's probably not a bad idea to plan for a fall boat ride in some of the same ways you'd prepare for a cold-weather hike. Hypothermia can be an issue, especially if you get stuck out there for longer than a few minutes in windy weather. Therefore I'd bring high-calorie snacks and wear poly-pro, fleece, and other non-cotton clothes with a rain shell.

Last October I shot a fantastic picture of the lake with peak fall foliage and Mount Washington's summit overlooking it all, on a clear, calm day. Just a few days later (Oct. 20) I measured a wind gust to 50 mph as a heavy rainstorm with thunder ended as light snow. Soon after we lost power, the MOUNT came by on an evening cruise in the high winds and I watched as it slowed and kept the search lights on for 2-3 minutes as the captain tried to find the Black Cat Shoals in the storm. I'd never before seen it pass the island with as much care as it did that night.
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Agree, the best pics on the lake are in the fall with the dry air and dark blue sky. That time of year, I always bring blankets despite my passengers claims to not need them. Somehow they always get used. I love it. We usually take a bit more care not to get the passengers wet as it can be a lot less fun than July.

Safety-wise I get much more nervous just after ice out when the water is much colder. Be sure to let us know how you make out with your trip.
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Old 09-05-2007, 03:29 PM   #19
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Thanks ya'll.

I tell ya, it is a royal pain in the behind to get a certificate that NH will accept. I was told that they will accept one issued to me by NC, but so far nobody in NC can tell me if the state actually issues me one. I mean, c'mon this is a little ridiculous. I've been boating for years and have been a regular on Winni since birth and my family has been going there since the 1950's and we've had the same house in Moultonborough since the 1960's. Ok, that doesn't make me anything special, but I sure miss the days of just being totally care free and really enjoying the lake. But thanks to captain boneheads and their stupidity, we now have all this red tape to cut through just to continue our family traditions. NH marine patrol said that I can get a 2 week certificate after taking an hour long written test. I want to be on vacation, not taking tests!!
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Try the link below. You can take an on-line test and get a NASBLA approved certificate for $20. That certificate is good in NH.

http://boat-ed.com/nc/index.htm
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That's the one that NH Marine patrol told me to get, but he said that it had to be issued by the state. I have no clue what that certificate says after you pass the test and that's what nobody can answer for me here with NC wildlife. Well, for just $20, why not? Thanks.
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Try the link below. You can take an on-line test and get a NASBLA approved certificate for $20. That certificate is good in NH.

http://boat-ed.com/nc/index.htm

This may be a dumb question, but what is to stop someone from NH or any other state from taking this test and using that license in NH? Doesn't that defeat NH's goal of eliminating the online exam?
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Thanks ya'll.

I tell ya, it is a royal pain in the behind to get a certificate that NH will accept. I was told that they will accept one issued to me by NC, but so far nobody in NC can tell me if the state actually issues me one. I mean, c'mon this is a little ridiculous. I've been boating for years and have been a regular on Winni since birth and my family has been going there since the 1950's and we've had the same house in Moultonborough since the 1960's. Ok, that doesn't make me anything special, but I sure miss the days of just being totally care free and really enjoying the lake. But thanks to captain boneheads and their stupidity, we now have all this red tape to cut through just to continue our family traditions. NH marine patrol said that I can get a 2 week certificate after taking an hour long written test. I want to be on vacation, not taking tests!!
Homewood,
Think how we felt when we all had to go through it after being on the lake for years. As we waited for the age curve to fully implement we had the situation where I could let totally inexperienced visitors drive my boat but my kids who arguably drive the boat better than I do, could not get behind the wheel until they turned 16 and could take the test.

On the other hand, I am in favor of this training and certification.
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I agree RGuy, I am in favor of it aswell. We have a lot of Cpt Boneheads here. We have no requirements for any safety certificate or the like. Buy a boat and go to it. I've been wanting to take a course anyway, but there really needs to be a nation wide accepted one. Whether it be a Coast Guard one or whatever. How about every state require the SAME one? No certificate, no boating, that simple. Funny how almost every boating topic ends up with this discussion
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Took our final cruise of the season today....a bit windy but great for this time of year. Gave a salute to our favorite spots, then headed back to the slip, packing up all our gear and getting the bowrider ready for being pulled out on Monday, shrink-wrapped and stored for the winter. A sad day but, hey, in about 6 weeks ski season will be here. And then ice-out can't be far behind. Anybody planning to stretch the season a bit longer?
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Anybody know where I can bring my boat "in the water" for winterizing as late as Thanksgiving? I normally trailer, but am interested in extending the season without risking a frozen block on the trailer. I would drop the trailer off at the same time as to boat. Any references would be very much appreciated for my 4winns.
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Anybody know where I can bring my boat "in the water" for winterizing as late as Thanksgiving? I normally trailer, but am interested in extending the season without risking a frozen block on the trailer. I would drop the trailer off at the same time as to boat. Any references would be very much appreciated for my 4winns.
Try Fays, provided the ice has not started to form at their Marina.

http://www.faysboatyard.com/


Also, try a mobile marine business and meet them at Glendale.
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Independent Marine - 476-5580 - is land-based in Moultonboro and will pick up your boat antwhere. I usually drop mine off at Lees Mills but you could have ice there by then. I would give them a call to see what they suggest. They are very flexible.
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With the way the past winters have been, you could probably wait until New Years. Although, I probably wouldn't
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I remember one guy out in his boat last CHRISTMAS DAY!
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Thumbs up Day before new year.

The Winnilakers crowd took a ride from Glendale to the Weirs dock day before New Year!. They had to stop at Crazy Gringos to warm up. They would have gone out the next day but the stickers are expired.
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They had to stop at Crazy Gringos to warm up.
I have that same issue occasionally when sitting on my couch!
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I keep feeling that I want to have Thanksgiving at the cottage just once and have my boat in the water for a cruise. Someday, but not this year, too much going on, and I will be closing the cottage next week. Perhaps one maybe two more boat rides.

Hope everybody has a safe winter.
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