Ice Airport?

Ropetow · 01-07-2009, 09:19 AM

Anyone know if the Alton Bay Ice Airport will be operating this year? I think Ossipee Valley Aviation used to have a lot to do with it, and their web site (along with flyaltonbay.com) is down. I know OVA pulled out as the fixed base operator at Skyhaven in Rochester, but I didn't think they went out of business. If so, how will this affect Alton Bay?

upthesaukee · 01-07-2009, 11:00 PM

I talked with a person associated with O. V. A. last year, and was told they probably would not be involved with the airport any longer for several reasons.

Setting up, getting approvals, and maintaining it was time consuming, with no monetary reward...simply a labor of love.

Weather being not cooperative over the past few years.

Ice fishing inside the airport safety zones established around the perimeter of the airport area (Alton Bay Runway was as much an airport as Laconia, as far as safety zones are concerned.)

Snowmobiles running up and down the runway, or crossing the runway, especially when there was standing water on runway surface, which caused damage to the surface, and when it froze, was then a hazard to planes landing.

Cars parked and people standing too close to runway.

It is too bad, because the aircraft landing and taking off drew people down to the bay and provided some increase benefit to the businesses in the bay. The fly-in by AANH in conjuction with the winter carnival on President's day weekend made for a great day on the bay.

Call it burnout, call it frustration, apply whatever term you want, but unfortunately it appears that it just isn't worth it anymore.

Thanks OVA for all you did in the past.

Blue Thunder · 01-16-2009, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Ropetow

Anyone know if the Alton Bay Ice Airport will be operating this year? I think Ossipee Valley Aviation used to have a lot to do with it, and their web site (along with flyaltonbay.com) is down. I know OVA pulled out as the fixed base operator at Skyhaven in Rochester, but I didn't think they went out of business. If so, how will this affect Alton Bay?

Checking the Alton Bay Cam this morning, it looks like the runway is plowed on the Bay.

BT

This'nThat · 01-17-2009, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Blue Thunder

Checking the Alton Bay Cam this morning, it looks like the runway is plowed on the Bay.BT

Yes it does -- see picture.

upthesaukee · 01-17-2009, 12:53 PM

I spoke with one of the members of the Alton Business Association (ABA), who are one of the co-sponsors of the Winter Carnival.

It was one (or more) of their members who plowed. They have been talking with the FAA about the airport, and they need a "manager".

I can not tell from the picture or by driving by the end of the bay if they have the safe zones from the taxiway to the runway and from the runway to the parking area. It also looks like the end of the runway is farther away from the bandstand than usual, which puts it closer to the boat houses which have bubblers going and usually have a fair amount of open water in front.

I hope they get someone out from the FAA to make sure that all safe zones are present, and then I hope that those with whom the airport shares the ice will respect those zones and keep off the runways, taxiways, and parking areas.

ladyslipper · 01-17-2009, 04:09 PM

"I hope they get someone out from the FAA to make sure that all safe zones are present, and then I hope that those with whom the airport shares the ice will respect those zones and keep off the runways, taxiways, and parking areas."

very well said, "UPTHESAUKEE"

Justenuff · 01-21-2009, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue Thunder

Checking the Alton Bay Cam this morning, it looks like the runway is plowed on the Bay.

BT

I went through Alton Bay on Monday and saw that the plows were working on the ice. My father in law said it was probably for ice racing, but it looked like a runway to me!

dbahn · 01-28-2009, 07:43 AM

New poster here, a pilot Googling "Alton Bay ice runway".

Looks like the ice runway is officially open, thanks to the efforts of one of your local enthusiasts, Paul Rochelle. There was an email sent out from the Bureau of Aeronautics. (I edited the link to make it work.)

Quote:

"We have good news! The Alton Bay Ice Runway is now open, as of
last Friday (1/23) . We had strong interest from the local business
owners on the need to have the ice runway open. The new airport
manager is Paul Rochelle. He is a local business owner near the bay.

We recommend that all pilots check the NOTAMS before landing on the
runway. The NOTAMs provide additional contact information for
conditions at the airport. The link is below:

https://www.notams.jcs.mil/ (enter airport as "KB18")

Could you please provide this information to the pilots through your
associated organizations.
Thanks

Trish

Tricia L. Schoeneck Lambert
Aeronautics Administrator
Bureau of Aeronautics
603-271-1674 "

A group of us (pilots) on a discussion board are very excited that Paul (and I presume some friends) have taken on the task of plowing and maintaining the runway. I flew in there in my Piper Cub last year and was looking forward to doing it again when it closed for the season. A group of us is already planning to meet there this Sunday for breakfast, weather permitting.

Thanks to anyone and everyone who is involved in this. We are very appreciative and are anxious to support the effort any way we can. I called Tricia Lambert yesterday and thanked her for anything she has done to support it. Looking forward to dropping in this weekend, probably in the Cub...

Dave Bahnson

trfour · 01-28-2009, 01:31 PM

Thank you dbahn, business will be picking up at the Alton Webcams! I have many friends around the world that have been waiting for this great news!

Steve Di. · 01-28-2009, 04:46 PM

Are they still planning on holding a winterfest in Alton Bay this year? I have enjoyed coming up to visit the Winterfest and watch the activity at the Alton Bay Airport.

mcdude · 01-29-2009, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Di.

Are they still planning on holding a winterfest in Alton Bay this year? I have enjoyed coming up to visit the Winterfest and watch the activity at the Alton Bay Airport.

From the Baysider 1/29/09

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ALTON

— The Alton Business Association (ABA), in association with the Parks and Recreation Department, has lined up a full slate of activities designed to beat back the winter blues during next month’s Winter arnival, scheduled for Sunday,Feb. 15. The day’s festivities will begin at 8 a.m., ith a pancake breakfast at the Alton Bay Community Center. Tickets for the breakfast are available in advance ($5 per person, children under two years of age free) by calling 875-6161 or 630-3675. Breakfast will be followed by sled demos, beginning at 10 a.m. and running until 3 p.m.; a 50/50 raffle from 10 a.m. to 1 p.m. (tickets $1 each or six for $5); and a bob-house decorating contest from 10 a.m. to 3 p.m. Helicopter rides ($30 per person) will begin at 11 a.m., along with sleigh rides ($5 per person, $15 for a family of four, or $20 for a family of five or more); a snowshoe obstacle course contest; and appearances by the Penguin and the Ice Princess. Ventriloquist Donna Marie will provide visitors with warmth and laughter during a special show at her Puppet Patter Plus boutique, llocated in the Shoppes on the Bay building, at 11:30 a.m. The afternoon will bring a tug-of-war contest at 12:30 p.m., followed by town-sponsored ice bowling and DJ music and a second 50/50 raffle at 1 p.m.; a town-sponsored scavenger hunt at 1:30 p.m.; and a “Crazy Hat” contest at

2 p.m. The carnival will culminate in the Great Alton Bay Bed Race at 3 p.m., preceded by the parade of racers at 2:45, with the awards ceremony following at 4 p.m. at the bandstand. Hot chili, french fries, hot dogs and hamburgers will be served throughout the day, along with both warm and cold drinks. Please note that all events and times are subject to change. Swing by the ABA tent the day of the carnival to register for events, purchase raffle tickets, and sign event waivers.

Collybus · 01-29-2009, 12:28 PM

Adding on the dbahn's post:

There are several pilots and planes that are planning on flying in this Sunday morning. For me, this will be my first time visiting and operating on an ice runway, and I'm glad for the opportunity. Many thanks to Paul, Roger, Steve and Andrews Marine!

TexASH Pilot · 01-29-2009, 08:55 PM

Many thanks to everyone that had a hand in getting Alton Bay open this year.

I've flown into the ice runway at Alton Bay a few times, and it's always the highlight of an otherwise dreary Wintery flying season. It's really a unique experience and one of my favorite destinations in New England.

This Sunday, a group of very excited pilots will be visiting B18, some for the first time. We'd discussed the possibility of a fly-in event at B18 earlier in the year and were very disappointed to hear the news that Ossipee Valley Aviation had gone out of business and it looked like the ice runway was a thing of the past.

Again... thank you for opening the Alton Bay ice runway!! Your efforts are very much appreciated!

Moss Creek Media · 01-29-2009, 09:07 PM

When are you guys planning on flying in on sunday? I've been wanting to take some photos of the planes landing and taking off on the ice.

Will you be on skis or wheels?

Kirk

dbahn · 01-29-2009, 09:26 PM

I think the target time is 10:30 and the list of planes from our group seems to be up to about 6 or 7 so far, all on wheels except for maybe one on skis.

RI Swamp Yankee · 01-29-2009, 10:08 PM

I have only watched the "Airport" in operation once but it is quite a sight to see. I wish I could be there to see it this year.

riverat · 01-29-2009, 10:26 PM

If any of you want a hot beverage, stop by the tan bobhouse closest to the plane parking area. I'll have a pot of hot water going.

Collybus · 01-30-2009, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Moss Creek Media

When are you guys planning on flying in on sunday? I've been wanting to take some photos of the planes landing and taking off on the ice.

Will you be on skis or wheels?

Kirk

I'll be coming in in little red and white plane....if you make my landing look good on video, I'll buy a copy!

Slickcraft · 01-29-2009, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TexASH Pilot

Many thanks to everyone that had a hand in getting Alton Bay open this year.

If you do fly in, Brian at the corner store in Alton Bay can fill you in as to who was involved in getting the ice airport open this year.

TexASH Pilot · 01-30-2009, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Slickcraft

If you do fly in, Brian at the corner store in Alton Bay can fill you in as to who was involved in getting the ice airport open this year.

Great... thanks for that! I'll be sure and stop in.

dbahn · 01-30-2009, 07:04 AM

Does anyone know if there is autogas (non alcohol added) available within walking distance of the airport? I can use that in the Cub, although I can also just fly over to Laconia as well.

Slickcraft · 01-30-2009, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dbahn

Does anyone know if there is autogas (non alcohol added) available within walking distance of the airport? I can use that in the Cub, although I can also just fly over to Laconia as well.

No, the Alton Village Store (about 1 mile walk) recently had to go over to 10% methanol.

dbahn · 01-30-2009, 04:20 PM

Thanks. It'll probably be easier to fly to Laconia than walk a mile with a 5 gallon can anyway.

Steveo · 01-31-2009, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dbahn

Thanks. It'll probably be easier to fly to Laconia than walk a mile with a 5 gallon can anyway.

I wasn't aware of any station that can still serve non ethanol gas. Are you saying the Laconia airport still does.

dbahn · 01-31-2009, 08:48 AM

I would get aviation fuel (100 LL, i.e. 100 octane Low Lead) at the Laconia airport, which works fine but is a little more expensive. The Cub is certified to also run on auto fuel, but the ethanol causes some problems with some of the fuel components in the system, so it's best to avoid it.

TexASH Pilot · 01-31-2009, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Steveo

I wasn't aware of any station that can still serve non ethanol gas. Are you saying the Laconia airport still does.

There are three airports that I know of that sill serve 87 Octane unleaded auto gas with no ethanol.

Hampton, NH (7B3)
Minuteman/Stow, MA (6B6)
Plymouth, MA (PYM)

This'nThat · 02-01-2009, 09:49 AM

If you build it -- they will come. Sunday morning, 1 Feb. As of 11:30, 12 airplanes parked at the airport.

upthesaukee · 01-28-2009, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbahn

New poster here, a pilot Googling "Alton Bay ice runway".

Looks like the ice runway is officially open, thanks to the efforts of one of your local enthusiasts, Paul Rochelle. There was an email sent out from the Bureau of Aeronautics. (I edited the link to make it work.)

A group of us (pilots) on a discussion board are very excited that Paul (and I presume some friends) have taken on the task of plowing and maintaining the runway. I flew in there in my Piper Cub last year and was looking forward to doing it again when it closed for the season. A group of us is already planning to meet there this Sunday for breakfast, weather permitting.

Thanks to anyone and everyone who is involved in this. We are very appreciative and are anxious to support the effort any way we can. I called Tricia Lambert yesterday and thanked her for anything she has done to support it. Looking forward to dropping in this weekend, probably in the Cub...

Dave Bahnson

Dave: I am a resident of Alton Bay and I also applaud the locals who wanted to see the airport open, both for the flying public and our businesses in the bay.

Since Ossipee Valley Aviation got out to the business, it looked for a while like the ice runway would be a thing of the past.

If you follow this link: http://www.newhampshirelakesandmount...2009.01.22.pdf

you will see a picture of the guys plowing the runway.

and this link: http://www.newhampshirelakesandmount...2009.01.29.pdf

a picture of a plane parked.

Just watch closely on your approach...power lines along side rte 11 with orange balls (right at the end of the bay), and of course watch for the snowmobiles, vehicles, and people in close proximity to the runway.

Keep the rubber side down, the shiny side up, may you find plenty of runway ahead of you and sky above you. See you in Alton Bay.

Dave C.

PS there will be a winter fest President's day weekend on the Sunday. Some events for most the of the day, but some only from 1-3 PM.

Kevin C · 01-28-2009, 11:54 PM

Alton Bay Cam showed 3 planes parked on the ice in Alton Bay Monday mid-afternoon.

Iceguy · 02-04-2009, 07:24 AM

Hi Everyone!
Just wanted to say "thanks" for all your support. The picture of the tan bob house was great, with the American Flag waving proudly.
Off to plow the runway! (Unfortunately I had to close it this morning due to the snow.) Will re-open soon.
Ice Guy

Collybus · 02-09-2009, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Iceguy

Hi Everyone!
Just wanted to say "thanks" for all your support. The picture of the tan bob house was great, with the American Flag waving proudly.
Off to plow the runway! (Unfortunately I had to close it this morning due to the snow.) Will re-open soon.
Ice Guy

Hey Paul...how about an insider's update? There's a lot of anticipation in the pilot community for the festival this Sunday!

Iceguy · 02-09-2009, 04:51 PM

Hello Collybus,
If you look at the "Baysiders" thread, you will see a list of all of the day's events. The storm date is February 21, 2009. Let's hope for good weather.
Now, in my opinion, pilots should come in early for breakfast, before it gets too busy. (Note for all pilots: from 2:45 - 3:15, the runway will be shut down for the Ice Bed Race only). The reason for this, is it is the only place to have the bed race, an Alton Bay tradition, put on by the Parks and Rec Dept. I will be posting this on Notems, so all pilots will be aware of this time. I will also have my hand held radio to communicate with any pilots. We hope to have a great day. See you on Sunday!
Paul (Iceguy).

TexASH Pilot · 02-09-2009, 08:00 PM

Really looking forward to coming this Sunday!

RLW · 02-10-2009, 10:40 AM

It appears from the Alton web cam that they are out there plowing water off of the runway. Hopefully we get some cold weather before Saturday and Sunday so that the runway can be used and that the snowmobiles stay off of it so it doesn't get roughed up so planes can't land.

RLW · 02-12-2009, 06:30 AM

By the sounds of the weather forecasts that I have been hearing one will need to put water ski's on the beds and life jackets on the musher's. I hope that they are wrong and the temperatures do go down low enough to freeze all the warmer weather melting so that all the activities including the planned fly-in came be done.
It appears that the Forum freeze the water dance must begin and begin now.

TexASH Pilot · 02-12-2009, 07:20 AM

Hey Paul,

When you get a chance, can you give us an update on the condition of the ice?

tis · 02-12-2009, 07:46 AM

What fun to hear from you Paul. We know each other. I love reading what you are doing. Let me say, I just hope you don't quit your day job!

Seaplane Pilot · 02-12-2009, 10:40 AM

ALL TAKEOFFS & LNDGS MUST BE NORTH OF THE BANDSTAND. ALL TRAVEL SOUTH OF THE BANDSTAND MUST NOT EXCEED HEADWAY SPEED.

Found this statement on AIRNAV listing. Pretty funny if Marine Patrol is out there issuing tix to planes for exceeding headway speed in a no-wake zone!

Iceguy · 02-12-2009, 04:20 PM

Hi Everyone.
Had to close the runway down today because of standing water and slush. Did not want to make ruts in the runway ice when it freezes. Tonight and tomorrow should be colder, hopefully this will be good for the weekend.
Hope to see you all on the weekend!

Paul (Iceguy)

dbahn · 02-12-2009, 04:54 PM

Good move.

I'm kind of curious. How do you manage to keep the snowmobiles off the runway when it's wet like this?

Sunday is expected to be a gorgeous day - sunny with temps right at the freezing level and a few cold nights before that. We're keeping our fingers crossed...

TexASH Pilot · 02-12-2009, 06:32 PM

The weather's looking great! Looks like the only variable might be the runway conditions, but hopefully your decision to close (a wise one!) and a few cold nights will fix it right up.

Looking forward to another trip to B18!

Iceguy · 02-12-2009, 08:48 PM

It's not easy. Only if we are at the bay or near the runway we can stop them. Fish & Game will stop the snowmobilers if they see them too. But for the most part they have been cooperative.

upthesaukee · 02-12-2009, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dbahn

Good move.

I'm kind of curious. How do you manage to keep the snowmobiles off the runway when it's wet like this?

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Iceguy and his crew have done a good job of getting the word out: Stay off the runway, and as he says, for the most part it has been good.

It would only take one idiot to run down the runway when it is starting to freeze, that would make the strip unsafe for you pilots.

As hard as the guys have worked, I hope temps down to 15 over night, and pretty cool temps during the day will salvage at least one more weekend.

Thanks to all you pilots for supporting their efforts, and the town of Alton.

Dave

Iceguy · 02-13-2009, 07:32 PM

Airport is open. Runway looks good but it will be slick. The parking area we have will take about 30 planes at a time however, we may be able to park a few out side of that area. Hope to see you all at the carnival. I will be on the ice if you should need assistance. I'll will be wearing a green vest.
Ice guy

dbahn · 02-14-2009, 12:41 AM

Paul, do you have any advice for pilots who fly in and find the parking area full? Should they avoid landing there, or can they be pushed into an alternative area for parking?

Tomorrow may be a bit windy, but it sounds like Sunday will be a picture perfect February winter day. There seems to be a lot of enthusiasm for this event.

Iceguy · 02-14-2009, 06:42 PM

Hello.
The runway will still be opened. However, the taxi way is shut down due to standing water on top of 2 feet of ice. We do not want anyone slipping into a snowbank. As it stands now, all flights will have to back taxi on the runway. As far as the parking area, at best 30 planes. I will be on the ice for any assistance. It may be possible to bring some planes into where I drive onto the parking area. This area is bumpy. It would be up to the pilots to park in this area. It was a shame that we had all the rain and warm temps this week. The ice is still safe.
Iceguy

01-07-2009, 09:19 AM	#1
Ropetow Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Rochester, NH / Bartlett, NH Posts: 322 Thanks: 228 Thanked 33 Times in 13 Posts	Ice Airport? Anyone know if the Alton Bay Ice Airport will be operating this year? I think Ossipee Valley Aviation used to have a lot to do with it, and their web site (along with flyaltonbay.com) is down. I know OVA pulled out as the fixed base operator at Skyhaven in Rochester, but I didn't think they went out of business. If so, how will this affect Alton Bay?

01-07-2009, 11:00 PM	#2
upthesaukee Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Alton Bay Posts: 5,597 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 2,455 Thanked 1,979 Times in 1,080 Posts	Probably not open this year I talked with a person associated with O. V. A. last year, and was told they probably would not be involved with the airport any longer for several reasons. Setting up, getting approvals, and maintaining it was time consuming, with no monetary reward...simply a labor of love. Weather being not cooperative over the past few years. Ice fishing inside the airport safety zones established around the perimeter of the airport area (Alton Bay Runway was as much an airport as Laconia, as far as safety zones are concerned.) Snowmobiles running up and down the runway, or crossing the runway, especially when there was standing water on runway surface, which caused damage to the surface, and when it froze, was then a hazard to planes landing. Cars parked and people standing too close to runway. It is too bad, because the aircraft landing and taking off drew people down to the bay and provided some increase benefit to the businesses in the bay. The fly-in by AANH in conjuction with the winter carnival on President's day weekend made for a great day on the bay. Call it burnout, call it frustration, apply whatever term you want, but unfortunately it appears that it just isn't worth it anymore. Thanks OVA for all you did in the past. __________________ I Live Here... I am always UPTHESAUKEE !!!!

01-17-2009, 12:53 PM	#5
upthesaukee Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Alton Bay Posts: 5,597 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 2,455 Thanked 1,979 Times in 1,080 Posts	Not by OVA I spoke with one of the members of the Alton Business Association (ABA), who are one of the co-sponsors of the Winter Carnival. It was one (or more) of their members who plowed. They have been talking with the FAA about the airport, and they need a "manager". I can not tell from the picture or by driving by the end of the bay if they have the safe zones from the taxiway to the runway and from the runway to the parking area. It also looks like the end of the runway is farther away from the bandstand than usual, which puts it closer to the boat houses which have bubblers going and usually have a fair amount of open water in front. I hope they get someone out from the FAA to make sure that all safe zones are present, and then I hope that those with whom the airport shares the ice will respect those zones and keep off the runways, taxiways, and parking areas. __________________ I Live Here... I am always UPTHESAUKEE !!!!

01-17-2009, 04:09 PM	#6
ladyslipper Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Gilford, NH Posts: 17 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I second that!! "I hope they get someone out from the FAA to make sure that all safe zones are present, and then I hope that those with whom the airport shares the ice will respect those zones and keep off the runways, taxiways, and parking areas." very well said, "UPTHESAUKEE"

01-28-2009, 01:31 PM	#9
trfour Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lakes, Central NH. and Dallas/Fort Worth TX. Posts: 3,694 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 3,069 Thanked 472 Times in 236 Posts	Best News I've Heared All Winter Thank you dbahn, business will be picking up at the Alton Webcams! I have many friends around the world that have been waiting for this great news! __________________ *trfour* Always Remember, The Best Safety Device In The Boat, or on a PWC Snowmobile etc., Is YOU! Safe sledding tips and much more; http://www.snowmobile.org/snowmobiling-safety.html

01-28-2009, 04:46 PM	#10
Steve Di. Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Wolfeboro, NH Posts: 60 Thanks: 8 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Winterfest? Are they still planning on holding a winterfest in Alton Bay this year? I have enjoyed coming up to visit the Winterfest and watch the activity at the Alton Bay Airport.

01-29-2009, 12:28 PM	#12
Collybus Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Adding on the dbahn's post: There are several pilots and planes that are planning on flying in this Sunday morning. For me, this will be my first time visiting and operating on an ice runway, and I'm glad for the opportunity. Many thanks to Paul, Roger, Steve and Andrews Marine!

01-29-2009, 08:55 PM	#13
TexASH Pilot Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 23 Thanks: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Thanks!! Many thanks to everyone that had a hand in getting Alton Bay open this year. I've flown into the ice runway at Alton Bay a few times, and it's always the highlight of an otherwise dreary Wintery flying season. It's really a unique experience and one of my favorite destinations in New England. This Sunday, a group of very excited pilots will be visiting B18, some for the first time. We'd discussed the possibility of a fly-in event at B18 earlier in the year and were very disappointed to hear the news that Ossipee Valley Aviation had gone out of business and it looked like the ice runway was a thing of the past. Again... thank you for opening the Alton Bay ice runway!! Your efforts are very much appreciated!

01-29-2009, 09:07 PM	#14
Moss Creek Media Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: New Hampton Posts: 97 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	When are you guys planning on flying in on sunday? I've been wanting to take some photos of the planes landing and taking off on the ice. Will you be on skis or wheels? Kirk

01-29-2009, 09:26 PM	#15
dbahn Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Mendon, Vermont Posts: 39 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	I think the target time is 10:30 and the list of planes from our group seems to be up to about 6 or 7 so far, all on wheels except for maybe one on skis. Last edited by dbahn; 01-29-2009 at 10:27 PM. Reason: clarification

01-29-2009, 10:08 PM	#16
RI Swamp Yankee Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: North Kingstown RI Posts: 688 Thanks: 143 Thanked 83 Times in 55 Posts	I have only watched the "Airport" in operation once but it is quite a sight to see. I wish I could be there to see it this year. __________________ Gene ~ aka "another RI Swamp Yankee"

01-29-2009, 10:26 PM	#17
riverat Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Alton, NH Posts: 722 Thanks: 337 Thanked 280 Times in 123 Posts	If any of you want a hot beverage, stop by the tan bobhouse closest to the plane parking area. I'll have a pot of hot water going. __________________ Waking up in the morning is the greatest, everything after that is a bonus

01-30-2009, 07:04 AM	#21
dbahn Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Mendon, Vermont Posts: 39 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Does anyone know if there is autogas (non alcohol added) available within walking distance of the airport? I can use that in the Cub, although I can also just fly over to Laconia as well.

01-30-2009, 04:20 PM	#23
dbahn Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Mendon, Vermont Posts: 39 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Thanks. It'll probably be easier to fly to Laconia than walk a mile with a 5 gallon can anyway.

01-31-2009, 08:48 AM	#25
dbahn Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Mendon, Vermont Posts: 39 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	I would get aviation fuel (100 LL, i.e. 100 octane Low Lead) at the Laconia airport, which works fine but is a little more expensive. The Cub is certified to also run on auto fuel, but the ethanol causes some problems with some of the fuel components in the system, so it's best to avoid it.

02-01-2009, 09:49 AM	#27
This'nThat Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 534 Thanks: 19 Thanked 134 Times in 61 Posts	Airport is filling up If you build it -- they will come. Sunday morning, 1 Feb. As of 11:30, 12 airplanes parked at the airport. Attached Images Last edited by This'nThat; 02-01-2009 at 11:23 AM. Reason: Add another picture

01-28-2009, 11:54 PM	#29
Kevin C Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Billerica, Ma Posts: 103 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Alton Bay Airport Alton Bay Cam showed 3 planes parked on the ice in Alton Bay Monday mid-afternoon. __________________ Skipper of CIRCUITOUS Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes. Author Unknown.

02-04-2009, 07:24 AM	#30
Iceguy Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Alton Bay, NH Posts: 28 Thanks: 1 Thanked 19 Times in 4 Posts	Alton Bay Airport Hi Everyone! Just wanted to say "thanks" for all your support. The picture of the tan bob house was great, with the American Flag waving proudly. Off to plow the runway! (Unfortunately I had to close it this morning due to the snow.) Will re-open soon. Ice Guy

02-09-2009, 04:51 PM	#32
Iceguy Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Alton Bay, NH Posts: 28 Thanks: 1 Thanked 19 Times in 4 Posts	Alton Winter Carnival Hello Collybus, If you look at the "Baysiders" thread, you will see a list of all of the day's events. The storm date is February 21, 2009. Let's hope for good weather. Now, in my opinion, pilots should come in early for breakfast, before it gets too busy. (Note for all pilots: from 2:45 - 3:15, the runway will be shut down for the Ice Bed Race only). The reason for this, is it is the only place to have the bed race, an Alton Bay tradition, put on by the Parks and Rec Dept. I will be posting this on Notems, so all pilots will be aware of this time. I will also have my hand held radio to communicate with any pilots. We hope to have a great day. See you on Sunday! Paul (Iceguy).

02-09-2009, 08:00 PM	#33
TexASH Pilot Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 23 Thanks: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Really looking forward to coming this Sunday!

02-10-2009, 10:40 AM	#34
RLW Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Alton Bay on the mountain by a lake Posts: 2,023 Thanks: 563 Thanked 444 Times in 311 Posts	It appears from the Alton web cam that they are out there plowing water off of the runway. Hopefully we get some cold weather before Saturday and Sunday so that the runway can be used and that the snowmobiles stay off of it so it doesn't get roughed up so planes can't land. __________________ There is nothing better than living on Alton Mountain & our grand kids visits.

02-12-2009, 06:30 AM	#35
RLW Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Alton Bay on the mountain by a lake Posts: 2,023 Thanks: 563 Thanked 444 Times in 311 Posts	Hope the weather is good to the Alton activities By the sounds of the weather forecasts that I have been hearing one will need to put water ski's on the beds and life jackets on the musher's. I hope that they are wrong and the temperatures do go down low enough to freeze all the warmer weather melting so that all the activities including the planned fly-in came be done. It appears that the Forum freeze the water dance must begin and begin now. __________________ There is nothing better than living on Alton Mountain & our grand kids visits.

02-12-2009, 07:20 AM	#36
TexASH Pilot Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 23 Thanks: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Hey Paul, When you get a chance, can you give us an update on the condition of the ice?

02-12-2009, 07:46 AM	#37
tis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,719 Thanks: 752 Thanked 1,457 Times in 1,014 Posts	What fun to hear from you Paul. We know each other. I love reading what you are doing. Let me say, I just hope you don't quit your day job!

02-12-2009, 10:40 AM	#38
Seaplane Pilot Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,177 Thanks: 664 Thanked 943 Times in 368 Posts	ALL TAKEOFFS & LNDGS MUST BE NORTH OF THE BANDSTAND. ALL TRAVEL SOUTH OF THE BANDSTAND MUST NOT EXCEED HEADWAY SPEED. Found this statement on AIRNAV listing. Pretty funny if Marine Patrol is out there issuing tix to planes for exceeding headway speed in a no-wake zone!

02-12-2009, 04:20 PM	#39
Iceguy Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Alton Bay, NH Posts: 28 Thanks: 1 Thanked 19 Times in 4 Posts	Update on Runway Hi Everyone. Had to close the runway down today because of standing water and slush. Did not want to make ruts in the runway ice when it freezes. Tonight and tomorrow should be colder, hopefully this will be good for the weekend. Hope to see you all on the weekend! Paul (Iceguy)

02-12-2009, 04:54 PM	#40
dbahn Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Mendon, Vermont Posts: 39 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Good move. I'm kind of curious. How do you manage to keep the snowmobiles off the runway when it's wet like this? Sunday is expected to be a gorgeous day - sunny with temps right at the freezing level and a few cold nights before that. We're keeping our fingers crossed...

02-12-2009, 06:32 PM	#41
TexASH Pilot Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 23 Thanks: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	The weather's looking great! Looks like the only variable might be the runway conditions, but hopefully your decision to close (a wise one!) and a few cold nights will fix it right up. Looking forward to another trip to B18!

02-12-2009, 08:48 PM	#42
Iceguy Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Alton Bay, NH Posts: 28 Thanks: 1 Thanked 19 Times in 4 Posts	Snowmobiles It's not easy. Only if we are at the bay or near the runway we can stop them. Fish & Game will stop the snowmobilers if they see them too. But for the most part they have been cooperative.

02-13-2009, 07:32 PM	#44
Iceguy Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Alton Bay, NH Posts: 28 Thanks: 1 Thanked 19 Times in 4 Posts	Update Airport is open. Runway looks good but it will be slick. The parking area we have will take about 30 planes at a time however, we may be able to park a few out side of that area. Hope to see you all at the carnival. I will be on the ice if you should need assistance. I'll will be wearing a green vest. Ice guy

02-14-2009, 12:41 AM	#45
dbahn Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Mendon, Vermont Posts: 39 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Paul, do you have any advice for pilots who fly in and find the parking area full? Should they avoid landing there, or can they be pushed into an alternative area for parking? Tomorrow may be a bit windy, but it sounds like Sunday will be a picture perfect February winter day. There seems to be a lot of enthusiasm for this event.

02-14-2009, 06:42 PM	#46
Iceguy Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Alton Bay, NH Posts: 28 Thanks: 1 Thanked 19 Times in 4 Posts	Runway Update Hello. The runway will still be opened. However, the taxi way is shut down due to standing water on top of 2 feet of ice. We do not want anyone slipping into a snowbank. As it stands now, all flights will have to back taxi on the runway. As far as the parking area, at best 30 planes. I will be on the ice for any assistance. It may be possible to bring some planes into where I drive onto the parking area. This area is bumpy. It would be up to the pilots to park in this area. It was a shame that we had all the rain and warm temps this week. The ice is still safe. Iceguy