Where to report seaplanes breaking the law?

[Shreddy]

Originally Posted by chipj29

I live on a dead end street. The speed limit on my street is 30 MPH.
When I had only lived here for 2 years, 2 cars went by at nearly twice the speed limit. Yes, I called the police. At the time, I did not know if they were my neighbors (nor did I care at that point).

Now tell me Shreddy...what difference does it make how long I have lived here?

Going 60 in a 30 on a dead end street to me, seems like endangerment. I can completely see where you are coming from. However, If those cars came at 35-40mph, you probably won't make that call.

My point is, as I said earlier, this pilot doesn't sound to be endangering anyones lives by landing on the lake/pond. Sounds like he does it in the evening when he knows traffic is down. Also, I can almost assure you that this guy is not hunting to hit anyone on the lake when he is flying. So, why ruin his fun? Lighten up, there's no need to be so harsh. That's my whole argument.

The reason I mention how long someone has lived there is the fact that this person could be your neighbor and live on the lake, but have lived there twenty+/- years. The guy might have been landing on this pond for plenty of years and it probably hasn't been a problem with other local residents as he still does it. I know, if I was the pilot, and I had my fun revoked by someone who moved to the area I live in, I'd be pretty upset. If I knew shedwannabe's argument as well (as given in this forum topic) behind why they pursued action, I'd be even more upset.

Like I said before, I'm only going off what has been posted here. But it just sounds as if this pilot is not causing harm and just enjoying a nice ride and lake...maybe his "humble abode" as well.

[Shedwannabe]

Though I don't know all the history, I do know that area residents petitioned the state to close down the lake to seaplanes several years ago, but were denied at that time (2003 I think).

I have yet to be able to learn when the ban was put in force - certainly it wasn't because of me. It may have been as result of ongoing "agitation" by local residents, though none of the neighbors I've met admits any involvement in that (I've only met a few).

But it seems what you are advocating is that if someone has been doing something for a long time, and that behavior then becomes illegal, s/he should be allowed to continue break the law. I understand your argument that "newcomers" shouldn't tell long-times what to do, but that is not this situation. This is where a law (well, a rule with the force of law) has been made (without the input of this newcomer) and is being repeatedly broken.

[Airwaves]

While Pickerel Pond in Laconia is on the list of restricted bodies of waters in 2007 banning seaplanes. It does NOT appear on the 2009 List of Restricted Bodies of Water in NH . So I would say at first glance that it's okay for the seaplane to land and takeoff from Pickerel Pond.

[BroadHopper]

Originally Posted by Airwaves

While Pickerel Pond in Laconia is on the list of restricted bodies of waters in 2007 banning seaplanes. It does NOT appear on the 2009 List of Restricted Bodies of Water in NH . So I would say at first glance that it's okay for the seaplane to land and takeoff from Pickerel Pond.

Many seapleane pilots are from out of state. There is no way of telling these pilots that Pickeral Pond is off limits. Unless someone listed the pond there will be more landings. It is up to the state or the abutters of the pond to make sure the pond is listed.

Back in the 70's and 80's, Pickeral Pond was used as a practice landing by the school at Laconia Airport. The pond was my first Landing and take off in an amphibous vehicle.

[chipj29]

Originally Posted by Shreddy

Going 60 in a 30 on a dead end street to me, seems like endangerment. I can completely see where you are coming from. However, If those cars came at 35-40mph, you probably won't make that call.

My point is, as I said earlier, this pilot doesn't sound to be endangering anyones lives by landing on the lake/pond. Sounds like he does it in the evening when he knows traffic is down. Also, I can almost assure you that this guy is not hunting to hit anyone on the lake when he is flying. So, why ruin his fun? Lighten up, there's no need to be so harsh. That's my whole argument.

The reason I mention how long someone has lived there is the fact that this person could be your neighbor and live on the lake, but have lived there twenty+/- years. The guy might have been landing on this pond for plenty of years and it probably hasn't been a problem with other local residents as he still does it. I know, if I was the pilot, and I had my fun revoked by someone who moved to the area I live in, I'd be pretty upset. If I knew shedwannabe's argument as well (as given in this forum topic) behind why they pursued action, I'd be even more upset.

Like I said before, I'm only going off what has been posted here. But it just sounds as if this pilot is not causing harm and just enjoying a nice ride and lake...maybe his "humble abode" as well.

Just because it doesn't "sound like" it to you, does not make it legal. There had to have been a reason the law was put into place. Personally, I would hope that the law would have been put into place for safety reasons, as opposed to someones personal preference.

[Shreddy]

Originally Posted by chipj29

Just because it doesn't "sound like" it to you, does not make it legal. There had to have been a reason the law was put into place. Personally, I would hope that the law would have been put into place for safety reasons, as opposed to someones personal preference.

J-Walking is a law that was put into place for safety reasons. Does everybody obey J-walking laws? Same difference...Some laws NEED to be enforced while others are, well, need to use judgement...

[chipj29]

Originally Posted by Shreddy

J-Walking is a law that was put into place for safety reasons. Does everybody obey J-walking laws? Same difference...Some laws NEED to be enforced while others are, well, need to use judgement...

I know what you mean shreddy...you and I are going to have to agree to disagree on this one.

[Shreddy]

Originally Posted by chipj29

I know what you mean shreddy...you and I are going to have to agree to disagree on this one.

Yup, I completely understand yours, as well as shedwannabe's, argument. Just wanted to state my point. Like I have been saying the whole time, I would hate to be the pilot and getting my fun/enjoyment taken away simply because there is a law in place. It doesn't sound as if he is jeopardizing anyone's safety. Some laws CAN be overlooked.

No hard feelings on my end...please excuse me coming off a bit harsh in the first place. Cheers.