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View Poll Results: What is the Minimum Planing Speed of your boat
less than 25 mph 78 57.35%
25 mph 18 13.24%
between 26 and 30 mph 32 23.53%
greater than 30 mph 8 5.88%
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Old 09-14-2009, 04:24 PM   #1
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I have it on good word that these threads are on shaky ground at best. I will shoulder a heavy burden of that blame. I am going to do my best to stay on topic and suggest we all do the same. I am going to try and turn over a new leaf and not let the elchase's of the world get under my skin.

OCD you seem to have reasonably good judgment and always do a good job trying to refocus the discussion. Perhaps you could unofficially moderate the discussion as you kind of had been. Perhaps you could blow the whistle so to speak and redirect the discussion when you see it straying off topic? Not to burden you or anything.


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Old 09-14-2009, 05:35 PM   #2
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I have it on good word that these threads are on shaky ground at best. I will shoulder a heavy burden of that blame. I am going to do my best to stay on topic and suggest we all do the same. I am going to try and turn over a new leaf and not let the elchase's of the world get under my skin.

OCD you seem to have reasonably good judgment and always do a good job trying to refocus the discussion. Perhaps you could unofficially moderate the discussion as you kind of had been. Perhaps you could blow the whistle so to speak and redirect the discussion when you see it straying off topic? Not to burden you or anything.


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Been trying to do that all along... But things get sidetracked so easily when things get personal.

This is a heated debate to begin with so as long as you don't read into peoples posts and take them at face value then "normally" things do not get out of hand. There are those that thrive on causing issues and may also have an agenda. The best thing that can happen for the speed limit supporters is to have the discussions shut down.

Right now there is no "specific data" to support their claims of a better lake. This is what the 2 year trial period was supposed to determine. Thus far all it has shown was there was not a speeding problem on the lake before or after the limits and they are not warrented. If this is continously brought to light and more and more people are shown to be in support of discontinuing the limits it hurts their case.

If you read back on all the past threads from 2 years ago many people tried this same tactic and succeeded in helping to shut them down.

I think if we all stay on topic and discuss things civilly as many supporters have we actually may be able to work something out, maybe even a compromise.

I do want to recognize a few supporters that although may have been taken down the wrong path, from time to time as we all have, they have really stayed on topic and have been a pleasure to discuss these issues with over the past 2 months.

Now hold onto your hats guys. First off Sunset (no secret he has done very well to stay on topic and express his opinions in a rational and objective manner)
Bear Islander!!! and if you go look back APS has even been doing a great job.

Although I may not agree with them they have all done well in stating their cases.

Great work.. Now lets all go get a 12 pack and watch the PATS Kick A$$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Been trying to do that all along... But things get sidetracked so easily when things get personal.

This is a heated debate to begin with so as long as you don't read into peoples posts and take them at face value then "normally" things do not get out of hand. There are those that thrive on causing issues and may also have an agenda. The best thing that can happen for the speed limit supporters is to have the discussions shut down.

Right now there is no "specific data" to support their claims of a better lake. This is what the 2 year trial period was supposed to determine. Thus far all it has shown was there was not a speeding problem on the lake before or after the limits and they are not warrented. If this is continously brought to light and more and more people are shown to be in support of discontinuing the limits it hurts their case.

If you read back on all the past threads from 2 years ago many people tried this same tactic and succeeded in helping to shut them down.

I think if we all stay on topic and discuss things civilly as many supporters have we actually may be able to work something out, maybe even a compromise.

I do want to recognize a few supporters that although may have been taken down the wrong path, from time to time as we all have, they have really stayed on topic and have been a pleasure to discuss these issues with over the past 2 months.

Now hold onto your hats guys. First off Sunset (no secret he has done very well to stay on topic and express his opinions in a rational and objective manner)
Bear Islander!!! and if you go look back APS has even been doing a great job.

Although I may not agree with them they have all done well in stating their cases.

Great work.. Now lets all go get a 12 pack and watch the PATS Kick A$$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Last time I drank a 12 pack was at my high school graduation. It's also the last time I got sick. That was 37 years ago.
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Last time I drank a 12 pack was at my high school graduation. It's also the last time I got sick. That was 37 years ago.
After watching this game I am easily going to be 12 deep.. LOL
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Well I hope you were still concious to see a great win.
And to keep on topic, I feel the need for speed.
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Well I hope you were still concious to see a great win.
And to keep on topic, I feel the need for speed.
All good here! and what a Great win... It wasn't pretty but it got the job done!

I do as well.... Safe Speed though...
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These threads aren't nearly as exciting or contentious as the restaurant threads are

At any rate, I'll stick to watching from the sidelines from here on out. No need to get people in a tizzy, and time to give Don some rest But I will let you know if I locate chicken parmesan that has two chicken breasts instead of just one.


Let's just stick to actual boating, perhaps that will not cause such a stir.
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