Moultonborough Trash Inspection

[CrawfordCentury]

Originally Posted by RI Swamp Yankee

Not sure I understand what you mean by twice.

I agree, don't really like being in the "top 10".

Assuming that your transfer station/dump isn't run by volunteers, that department is being funded through your local property tax. The rubbish bag scam is akin to a 'surcharge' - a term the folks in Concord (and I'd assume Providence and Boston, too) like to use when they're trying to bilk us for more without using the dreaded 't' word.

[RI Swamp Yankee]

Originally Posted by CrawfordCentury

Assuming that your transfer station/dump isn't run by volunteers, that department is being funded through your local property tax. The rubbish bag scam is akin to a 'surcharge' - ...

Ok, gotcha ... understand. They "claim" it offsets the money they would raise from taxes. Also tha transfer station is now only open 3 day a week ... to further reduce the ever increasing taxes.

[CrawfordCentury]

Originally Posted by RI Swamp Yankee

Ok, gotcha ... understand. They "claim" it offsets the money they would raise from taxes. Also tha transfer station is now only open 3 day a week ... to further reduce the ever increasing taxes.

Hey, that's swell. I bet that you've seen your local tax rate decrease to reflect the offsets generated through rubbish bag sales.

[fatlazyless]

Good golly......why not have a New Hampshire nickel deposit on cans and bottles just like most every other state? That would probably help to keep all the cans and bottles out of the transfer stations and purchasers wold happily return them to retail stores, like super markets , which sells them. The Massachusets super markets all have can return vending machines located in their entry vestibule area which take in cans, and give out store credits.

Plus, it would probably help to eliminate the can and bottle roadside litter. Down in Boston, it seems like they have a squadron of down & out homeless types who patrol the back alleys, investigating the trash bags on trash day, while looking for returnables just for the nickel/can.

Can collecting: not just a nickel job, more like a nickel career! .... .

[breathe easy]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

Good golly......why not have a New Hampshire nickel deposit on cans and bottles just like most every other state?

There is a bill in the 2010 NH House proposing just that:

HOUSE BILL 675-FN "To encourage container reuse and recycling, every beverage container sold or offered for sale to a consumer in this state shall have a deposit and refund value. The deposit value shall be $0.05 per container. Handling fees per container shall be $0.035, or $0.03 for commingling"

But one down side according to the Fiscal Impact statement attached to the bill :

"The Commission assumes the deposit on wine bottles cannot be passed to the consumer without an impact in wine sales, and therefore the Commission will absorb the full impact of the deposit, reducing wine revenue by $1,160,978 "
"The Commission assumes the deposit will reduce the price advantage over other states and may reduce gallons of beer sold by up to 40% which would reduce beer tax revenues up to $4,980,000 "

[tis]

Years ago, you returned bottles in this state. Some people used to walk up and down the road looking for bottles and returning them for the money.

[Rattlesnake Guy]

Originally Posted by tis

Years ago, you returned bottles in this state. Some people used to walk up and down the road looking for bottles and returning them for the money.

I was one of those kids walking the streets in the 60s picking up bottles for $0.02 each. Two cents was worth the effort to this kid. That was the free market at work. Not a government program with layers of bureaucrats making a living out of it with hopes of poor redemption to make profits. The good old days. Coke paid the retailer money to get the bottle back so they could wash it and use it again and again.

[Seeker]

Originally Posted by Rattlesnake Guy

I was one of those kids walking the streets in the 60s picking up bottles for $0.02 each. Two cents was worth the effort to this kid. That was the free market at work. Not a government program with layers of bureaucrats making a living out of it with hopes of poor redemption to make profits. The good old days. Coke paid the retailer money to get the bottle back so they could wash it and use it again and again.

I was selling Coke and Cott back in the early fifties. Coke was .035 per 6 oz bottle plus the .02 deposit. I was selling to golfers for .15 and I got 98% of the bottles back to return to Coke. Not a bad profit margin.

[CrawfordCentury]

So we've gone from rubbish inspections to the institution of a new state government program. I see how this works.

Guess I'll just drink more beer and wine to circumvent this new surcharge. Now all we'll need is a government-managed health care system to treat the alcohol-related illness I'll encounter a few years down the road.

[RI Swamp Yankee]

Originally Posted by Rattlesnake Guy

I was one of those kids walking the streets in the 60s picking up bottles for $0.02 each. Two cents was worth the effort to this kid. .....

My cousin in NH did that too. The bottles earned him a snow shovel ... which earned him a snowblower ... which earned him a pickup truck with snowplow.

[RI Swamp Yankee]

Originally Posted by CrawfordCentury

Hey, that's swell. I bet that you've seen your local tax rate decrease to reflect the offsets generated through rubbish bag sales.

I wish! The "claim" doesn't match the reality. Like elsewhere the line is: taxes would have gone up even more if we didn't cut your services.