Speed Limit Poll

GWC... · 01-18-2005, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frdxplorer

A sailboat capt must have a great deal of knowledge of tides, currents and wind patterns just to name a few. There is also, of course, no need to worry about how many miles to the next Shell.

So must a powerboat captain "have a great deal of knowledge of tides, currents and wind patterns just to name a few."

As for "no need to worry about how many miles to the next Shell.", perhaps you could enlighten the rest of us landlubbers as to why the Eagle has a maximum range?

From the website:

Maximum Range: 5450 miles

PROPELLER · 01-18-2005, 03:40 PM

I too am a registered NH voter, I pay taxes to the town of Gilford & I AM AGAINST A SPEED LIMIT LAW. I voted against it in this poll, I have written to the lone sponsor of the bill(that should give you some idea of the support. Many bills have multiple sponsors) & my legislators letting them know of my position & urging them not to support HB 162.

Having said that I think many forum readers are missing the intent of this law. The way I see it the intent is not to simply post a speed limit because any speed above 45 mph is dangerous, but to eliminate a specific kind of boat from the lake. Thats why 45 MPH was chosen. 45 MPH is a very average WOT speed for the typical bowriders & smaller express cruisers on the lake. However, it is a very slow speed for another kind of boat which I do not need to spell out, therefore making it undesirable for a boat owner of this kind to use it on Winni.

What will be next on the agenda is a horsepower limit to eliminate another kind of boat(larger cruisers). And after that will be a bill to eliminate all rafting anywhere on the lake. DO YOU SEE THE TREND. There are individuals who use this lake & there are some on this forum(I can tell by some of the posts & comments) that wish to turn this lake into their own private playground & to eliminate anything they do not like. What better way to do that than through legislation under the guise of whats best for the lake ecology & whats in the best interest of everyones safety.

If those against these things discussed above become complacent & believe it will never happen, eventually it will happen. Over time these ideas will gain support. So, if you are not in favor of these kinds of things, stand up & let your voice be heard, do not become complacent.

One last thing I would like to adress is something that fdxplorer said in his previous post. He said that education & knowledge as a better way to effect lake activities is a utopian pipe dream. While it may take years education & knowledge will eventually have the desired effects if the powers that be stay the course & are diligent in their efforts. I can think of a couple of examples. Educating the public on the dangers of smoking is one. Another is educating the public about proper diet & exercise. While there will always be those that will smoke & those who will not eat right & exercise they are becoming SLOWLY, the exception rather than the norm.

Frdxplorer · 01-18-2005, 03:43 PM

GWC,

Very nicely done. I am glad you have done your research. I wish I had a definate answer for you. The only thing I could think of is that that is the distance they would anticipate being able to sustain the crew in terms of food etc. Of course, that assumes no calls to port.

And you are correct, all boaters must pay attention to those considerations metnioned. A subtle change may effect a sailboat more, but as I think we have all agreed upon so far, education is important for all boaters.

My main reason for posting my original message was that Formulaoutlaw seemed to be indicating he felt that there was a lack of respect and courtesy shown to Offshores by other boaters. (namely their repeated attempts to limit speed etc and run them out of certain bodies of water). His message about "not letting friends drive blowboats" seemed to pose a little bit of a paradox to this original feeling.

My family has 3 Boston Whaler powerboats on the lake. I am certainly not opposed to powerboats in general, or even offshores specifically. I agree that education is key. But I must also admit, I tended to agree with Bear Lover on his concerns for a skewed outcome. I would personally be more interested in hearing what those familiar with the lake (people such as yourself GWC) had to say. Not to say only those that are familiar with the lake should be welcome on the forum. But to stake a position without much knowledge of local laws and customs on the lake seems to undermine this whole "education and knowledge" is key argument.

cowisl · 01-18-2005, 04:57 PM

I live on Cow Island and am against the speed limit. The issue here is not speed; it is poorly educated boaters and improper enforcement.

Marine Patrol officers should go after people who disobey the 150' foot law before they go after people who do not have their boats registered.

View Poll Results: How do you feel about a speed limit on Lake Winnipesaukee?
I strongly feel the state should implement a 45 mph speed limit!	34	23.61%
I think a speed limit on certain parts of the lake might be appropriate, perhaps higher than 45mph.	17	11.81%
I don’t care either way.	6	4.17%
I don’t think we need a speed limit.	26	18.06%
I am strongly opposed to any speed limit on the lake!	61	42.36%
Voters: 144. You may not vote on this poll

01-18-2005, 03:40 PM	#2
PROPELLER Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 340 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Speed Limit I too am a registered NH voter, I pay taxes to the town of Gilford & I AM AGAINST A SPEED LIMIT LAW. I voted against it in this poll, I have written to the lone sponsor of the bill(that should give you some idea of the support. Many bills have multiple sponsors) & my legislators letting them know of my position & urging them not to support HB 162. Having said that I think many forum readers are missing the intent of this law. The way I see it the intent is not to simply post a speed limit because any speed above 45 mph is dangerous, but to eliminate a specific kind of boat from the lake. Thats why 45 MPH was chosen. 45 MPH is a very average WOT speed for the typical bowriders & smaller express cruisers on the lake. However, it is a very slow speed for another kind of boat which I do not need to spell out, therefore making it undesirable for a boat owner of this kind to use it on Winni. What will be next on the agenda is a horsepower limit to eliminate another kind of boat(larger cruisers). And after that will be a bill to eliminate all rafting anywhere on the lake. DO YOU SEE THE TREND. There are individuals who use this lake & there are some on this forum(I can tell by some of the posts & comments) that wish to turn this lake into their own private playground & to eliminate anything they do not like. What better way to do that than through legislation under the guise of whats best for the lake ecology & whats in the best interest of everyones safety. If those against these things discussed above become complacent & believe it will never happen, eventually it will happen. Over time these ideas will gain support. So, if you are not in favor of these kinds of things, stand up & let your voice be heard, do not become complacent. One last thing I would like to adress is something that fdxplorer said in his previous post. He said that education & knowledge as a better way to effect lake activities is a utopian pipe dream. While it may take years education & knowledge will eventually have the desired effects if the powers that be stay the course & are diligent in their efforts. I can think of a couple of examples. Educating the public on the dangers of smoking is one. Another is educating the public about proper diet & exercise. While there will always be those that will smoke & those who will not eat right & exercise they are becoming SLOWLY, the exception rather than the norm.

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01-18-2005, 03:43 PM	#3
Frdxplorer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: York, PA Posts: 234 Thanks: 2 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	GWC, Very nicely done. I am glad you have done your research. I wish I had a definate answer for you. The only thing I could think of is that that is the distance they would anticipate being able to sustain the crew in terms of food etc. Of course, that assumes no calls to port. And you are correct, all boaters must pay attention to those considerations metnioned. A subtle change may effect a sailboat more, but as I think we have all agreed upon so far, education is important for all boaters. My main reason for posting my original message was that Formulaoutlaw seemed to be indicating he felt that there was a lack of respect and courtesy shown to Offshores by other boaters. (namely their repeated attempts to limit speed etc and run them out of certain bodies of water). His message about "not letting friends drive blowboats" seemed to pose a little bit of a paradox to this original feeling. My family has 3 Boston Whaler powerboats on the lake. I am certainly not opposed to powerboats in general, or even offshores specifically. I agree that education is key. But I must also admit, I tended to agree with Bear Lover on his concerns for a skewed outcome. I would personally be more interested in hearing what those familiar with the lake (people such as yourself GWC) had to say. Not to say only those that are familiar with the lake should be welcome on the forum. But to stake a position without much knowledge of local laws and customs on the lake seems to undermine this whole "education and knowledge" is key argument.

01-18-2005, 04:57 PM	#4
cowisl Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cow Island Posts: 169 Thanks: 6 Thanked 20 Times in 12 Posts	I live on Cow Island and am against the speed limit. The issue here is not speed; it is poorly educated boaters and improper enforcement. Marine Patrol officers should go after people who disobey the 150' foot law before they go after people who do not have their boats registered.