Misplaced priorities. Bash the competition before fixing your product

[NoBozo]

SO: Say you have a Duncan chart and a Bizer chart and a GPS Chart plotter.

Now you are out there in the boat and you notice a small discrepancy between one or more of the above. Total Confusion now sets in and big arguments ensue...all the while the boat may be speeding into imminent danger Will Robinson.

WHICH Source is Right..? Maybe better to have only one Chart, a GPS and excercise some seamanship and common sense. NB

[ishoot308]

Gee Skip it looks like Bizers web site could use a little updating also... How long has Nothin Fancy been gone from the Weirs... 5 years now??... yet it still shows up on Bizers web site as a restaurant in the Weirs!

Give it a rest and give Duncan press a break. They have been around a long time and offer boaters a quality product that has been used safely for decades.

Dan

[Sandy Beach]

Originally Posted by ishoot308

Gee Skip it looks like Bizers web site could use a little updating also... How long has Nothin Fancy been gone from the Weirs... 5 years now??... yet it still shows up on Bizers web site as a restaurant in the Weirs!

Give it a rest and give Duncan press a break. They have been around a long time and offer boaters a quality product that has been used safely for decades.

Dan

Skipper, give it a rest after Duncan corrects their web pages.

ishoot308, For how many months should we give Duncan Press a break?

I looked at Bizer's web site and can not find Nothin Fancy listed as a Weirs area restaurant. Assuming you did see it listed two days ago and it doesn't seem to be listed today that sure says a lot for the attention Bizer gives to their information and desire for accuracy. Apparently Bizer's update took less than 2 days of it being brought to our or their attention. That's just a restaurant listing, what about more important issues? Duncan corrections or updates one or two years since notification and not corrected yet . Duhhh!

Following safe navigation routes on their map is one thing, no one is faulting that. Wrong, misleading or missing important information on the Duncan web site is quite another issue that should be addressed. Duncan promotes looking to it's web site for updated information and they should follow through. Some things have changed since their latest map was published in 2005.

[Happy Gourmand]

I don't buy a chart and use it as a restaurant guide.
I don't buy a chart and use it to find no rafting zones.
I don't buy a chart to find out what the speed limit is.
I don't buy a chart to find current laws and rules
I don't buy a chart for etc. etc. etc.
I DO buy a chart to be able to help me safely navigate the lake and to point out the many hazardous areas that are a detriment to the safe operation of my boat.
My opinion is that BOTH charts do this beautifully. Some prefer the brown chart, others prefer the green chart. To each his/her own.

[ishoot308]

Originally Posted by Sandy Beach

Skipper, give it a rest after Duncan corrects their web pages.

ishoot308, For how many months should we give Duncan Press a break?

I looked at Bizer's web site and can not find Nothin Fancy listed as a Weirs area restaurant. Assuming you did see it listed two days ago and it doesn't seem to be listed today that sure says a lot for the attention Bizer gives to their information and desire for accuracy. Apparently Bizer's update took less than 2 days of it being brought to our or their attention. That's just a restaurant listing, what about more important issues? Duncan corrections or updates one or two years since notification and not corrected yet . Duhhh!

Following safe navigation routes on their map is one thing, no one is faulting that. Wrong, misleading or missing important information on the Duncan web site is quite another issue that should be addressed. Duncan promotes looking to it's web site for updated information and they should follow through. Some things have changed since their latest map was published in 2005.

Sandy Beach;

I don't have a dog in this fight and really don't care what chart you use.

My point is Duncan and Bizer are the only two companies that offer decent navigation charts for Winni. Why continually slam (and yes Al "Skipper of the Sea Que" has repeatedly slammed Duncan) a company that has produced a decent product for MANY years. Would you be happier if there was only one available chart to use and purchase?? Personally I find the back and forth bickering on this subject ridiculous and in poor taste. Let's allow both products to stand on their own merit and the boating public can decide which chart they want to to use. (I use both by the way)

Both Bizer and Duncan offer a quality product that serves a wonderful purpose to all boaters. I see no reason to bash either company as the product they each offer may not be perfect, but both are very useful to the boating public.

Just an fyi...Mr Bizer did contact me via P.M. to inform me he had updated his web site and removed Nothin Fancy from his restaurant listing. Hopefully all boaters will feel much safer navigating with this revision...

Have a great weekend!

Dan