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Old 08-24-2010, 08:01 AM   #1
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My guess as to the reason that not much has been done about this is that there are issue such as the Shoreline protection Act, as well as the cost of taking down the branches that come into play.... top onto that, there may be an issue that if the tree is pruned to much have to be pruned and thus the tree needs to come all the way down.

Don't assume that nothing has been / or is being done to help with the situation it just may not be as straight forward as we would like it to be.

Additionally, you contacting the Marine Patrol is the first step... the Marine Patrol, then needs to get in contact with the property owner if they feel you have a valid point. The home owner needs to decided what they can do to help with in there means....That alone can take a month... then if the owner can't do anything do to financial constraints... well then there another can of worms that has to be opened and gone down.....
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Old 08-24-2010, 01:22 PM   #2
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LDR4 is correct. This new hazard is a Birch tree that has started it's decent to a horizontal position. It is now leaning over the channel. Most small boats would not be inconvenienced. Boats with 10 foot antenna's forced to the side will have their antenna's hit the tree. This is something that happened a few weeks ago. I am not sure if it is the root system is rotting or the ground is giving way.

Maybe this weeks rain will finish the job.
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Old 08-24-2010, 06:49 PM   #3
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Default I never noticed it

I was out this Saturday and never noticed it.
That is it we need a new law making it illegal to have a boat in the channel that will not fit under that tree. That is the only politically correct way to rectify this hazardous situation.
Jim if that Sea ray wasn’t 3 stories high you wouldn’t Regret having a problem.

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Old 08-25-2010, 05:18 PM   #4
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LDR4 is correct. This new hazard is a Birch tree that has started it's decent to a horizontal position. It is now leaning over the channel. Most small boats would not be inconvenienced. Boats with 10 foot antenna's forced to the side will have their antenna's hit the tree. This is something that happened a few weeks ago. I am not sure if it is the root system is rotting or the ground is giving way.

Maybe this weeks rain will finish the job.
Grew up on the lake, it's been like that for a few years. How long have you owned your boat? Trees probably been there longer
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Old 08-25-2010, 07:51 PM   #5
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Post ///// Yup, Looking At It From The Bridge.../////

That one was missing a boat shoe! ...
Been there since I can remember, though must be more scary, these days!



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Old 08-26-2010, 06:02 AM   #6
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I have been going through the channel with my boat for 11 seasons and last month the tree was much lower than the beginning of the season. My marine radio antenna for the first time ever brushed the tree. I have a cruiser with a radar arch and the antenna is mounted half way up the side of the arch.
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Old 08-26-2010, 08:23 AM   #7
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I could take that tree down and piece it in under 5 minutes. What is it, 10 inches around? Maybe? Perhaps somebody who cares should just ask them to drop it.
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Old 08-26-2010, 12:17 PM   #8
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Is that a recent photo Terry?
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That cannot be a recent photo now, as now you are starting to have to go around it if you are more than like 7-8 feet above the water
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TRFour - Great photo. The cruiser is my boat and the sedan bridge behind has not been out on the lake for about 5 years. What a small world we live in. It is incredible the things you find on the internet....
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Old 08-26-2010, 03:13 PM   #11
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TRFour - Great photo. The cruiser is my boat and the sedan bridge behind has not been out on the lake for about 5 years. What a small world we live in. It is incredible the things you find on the internet....
Hang up and drive! (j/k).
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Old 08-26-2010, 06:13 PM   #12
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Nice catch. I do not take my phone on the boat. The picture was taken in myu youth!
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Default Seriously.

For those who do not know about the regulations regarding the shoreline, it would literally take an act of God to take that tree down.
The paperwork and fee’s involved in doing so are way more than you can imagine.
And the fine for doing so without permission I’ve heard is pretty steep itself.
You can blame that on all the people who decide to come up to our beautiful state, buy land then proceed to cut every living thing down, plant football size lawns then let all the lawn chemicals leech into the lake.
To each their own but I honestly think the well manicured lots with trees look much more attractive and make the homes look more attractive than those that do not.
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Old 08-29-2010, 06:53 AM   #14
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Title 483-B9 section V B 2 C
http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/...-B/483-B-9.htm

(C) Dead, diseased, or unsafe, trees, limbs, saplings, or shrubs that pose a hazard to structures or have the potential to cause personal injury may be removed regardless of any requirements that pertain to the natural woodland buffer under this chapter. Such exemptions shall not be used to contravene the intent of the law.

If the tree is falling or unsafe, it can be removed without a permit. The owner should take pictures first, just in case there are questions afterwards. The picture in this thread, compared with a current picture, should be enough. The stump must be left in the ground to control erosion.
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OP, I believe your boat has a feature that comes standard. Neutral. That, patience, and a steering wheel will relieve you of this problem you are having with that tree. End of thread.

But I'll be on the lake today. Let me bring a chainsaw and see if I can do some water landscaping...
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Nice catch. I do not take my phone on the boat. The picture was taken in myu youth!
' At least the tree was young! '

I caught it in a few photos that I took from the Weirs Bridge over a 'Fourth of July weekend back in 2004. Taking an interest in this thread, I thought, " Is it really possible that this tree is still there, in a way too? "

It must be taking it's fair share away from the middle of the channel these days!

At least I pictured it though!



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I passed by the tree Saturday and the birch tree root is starting to break through the ground. Nature is going to run its course and I do not think a permit will be required to remove it. Mother nature trumps fed, state, and local laws.

Traffic was not bad and the tree doesn't block the entire channel. I think 2 boats will still be able to pass even if the tree was in the water.
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Took this photo on Sat. As you can see it is forcing boats into the middle of the channel whic is making an already congested area even more so.

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Default Winter will take care of it

I don't expect anything will be done with that tree before winter. I'd bet $5 (since that's as adventurous as I get gambling) that a few ice storms will have that tree down before next spring. Problem solved. It will have to be moved.
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That tree decided to fall in the very early morning and the work to remove it had to be done when the first boat who gets caught. That seems like a good reason to remove it ahead of time. Otherwise it is just a nuisance waiting to happen. Again, common sense is not common.
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That tree decided to fall in the very early morning and the work to remove it had to be done when the first boat who gets caught. That seems like a good reason to remove it ahead of time. Otherwise it is just a nuisance waiting to happen. Again, common sense is not common.
Removing the tree now will likely leave more of its roots in the ground, a better solution than having the roots ripped out by the falling tree. This will help significantly with minimizing run off erosion and make the banking more stable once the tree is gone.

Sometimes it is best to remove a tree, and I feel this is one of those cases. It should require some sort of contact with the CSPA folks before it is cut, to be on the safe side.

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Old 08-30-2010, 11:01 PM   #22
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i'm too new to have an opinion about the trees or the arrogance, BUT

OH, MY, GOSH, that is a crowded channel! i don't want to go anywhere near that!!!! i could do an awful lot of damage in a short period of time!
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