Navigation Hazzard in the Weirs Channel

NoRegrets · 08-30-2010, 06:24 AM

I passed by the tree Saturday and the birch tree root is starting to break through the ground. Nature is going to run its course and I do not think a permit will be required to remove it. Mother nature trumps fed, state, and local laws.

Traffic was not bad and the tree doesn't block the entire channel. I think 2 boats will still be able to pass even if the tree was in the water.

LDR4 · 08-30-2010, 08:33 AM

Took this photo on Sat. As you can see it is forcing boats into the middle of the channel whic is making an already congested area even more so.

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Coastal Laker · 08-30-2010, 08:54 AM

I don't expect anything will be done with that tree before winter. I'd bet $5 (since that's as adventurous as I get gambling) that a few ice storms will have that tree down before next spring. Problem solved. It will have to be moved.

Rickeei · 08-30-2010, 10:45 AM

That tree decided to fall in the very early morning and the work to remove it had to be done when the first boat who gets caught. That seems like a good reason to remove it ahead of time. Otherwise it is just a nuisance waiting to happen. Again, common sense is not common.

Resident 2B · 08-30-2010, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Rickeei

That tree decided to fall in the very early morning and the work to remove it had to be done when the first boat who gets caught. That seems like a good reason to remove it ahead of time. Otherwise it is just a nuisance waiting to happen. Again, common sense is not common.

Removing the tree now will likely leave more of its roots in the ground, a better solution than having the roots ripped out by the falling tree. This will help significantly with minimizing run off erosion and make the banking more stable once the tree is gone.

Sometimes it is best to remove a tree, and I feel this is one of those cases. It should require some sort of contact with the CSPA folks before it is cut, to be on the safe side.

R2B

mishelmeis · 08-30-2010, 11:01 PM

i'm too new to have an opinion about the trees or the arrogance, BUT

OH, MY, GOSH, that is a crowded channel! i don't want to go anywhere near that!!!! i could do an awful lot of damage in a short period of time!

trfour · 08-30-2010, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mishelmeis

i'm too new to have an opinion about the trees or the arrogance, BUT

OH, MY, GOSH, that is a crowded channel! i don't want to go anywhere near that!!!! i could do an awful lot of damage in a short period of time!

We have an App for that!
It's called Boating Lessons!

Terry
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AC2717 · 08-31-2010, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by mishelmeis

i'm too new to have an opinion about the trees or the arrogance, BUT

OH, MY, GOSH, that is a crowded channel! i don't want to go anywhere near that!!!! i could do an awful lot of damage in a short period of time!

Haha, that is not even crowded lol

Onshore · 08-31-2010, 04:38 PM

If the owners were so inclined, the Shoreland Protection Act would allow the removal of that tree. There is no paperwork required, although keeping photos of the tree and the stump if it is uprooting for one's personal records is highly recommended. There would on the otherhand be Wetlands permitting required to repair any damage to the bank that may occur if the tree were to go down pulling the roots and stump out in the process. It is of course entirely the owner's perogative.

RI Swamp Yankee · 08-31-2010, 07:28 PM

Maybe they could put a rope or line around the tree near the middle and an anchor on land and pull it upright.

ApS · 09-01-2010, 02:56 AM

That might work with a birch, as it seems all they do is fall down.

(Looking at the latest photo, it looks like a bunch of "brother" birches are headed towards the channel, as well.)

But I once tried to return a wind-blown tree to vertical from about only 10 degrees "off". (AAway from the house). I used a cable-winch of 4000 pound capacity, tightening it only one click twice a week. That "come-a-long" was at its maximum capacity, as each time, I could barely move the lever!

I later soaked the earth around it, but still never succeeded in gaining more than a few degrees—after six months of trying!

SIKSUKR · 09-01-2010, 08:48 AM

Earl called and said he would be by sometime Friday night to take that tree down.

IslandRadio · 09-01-2010, 11:24 PM

Wow! I don't see any question at all about it - that tree is definitely a hazzard. Just surprised it went on as long as it did. That last picture really captures the whole scene - thanks for posting it!

Regards,

Steve

Island Girl · 09-02-2010, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SIKSUKR

Earl called and said he would be by sometime Friday night to take that tree down.

I put my money on that!!!!

IG

08-30-2010, 08:33 AM	#2
LDR4 Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 30 Thanks: 1 Thanked 21 Times in 6 Posts	Recent photo Took this photo on Sat. As you can see it is forcing boats into the middle of the channel whic is making an already congested area even more so.

08-30-2010, 08:54 AM	#3
Coastal Laker Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: In the Beautiful Lakes Region of course! Posts: 130 Thanks: 1 Thanked 9 Times in 4 Posts	Winter will take care of it I don't expect anything will be done with that tree before winter. I'd bet $5 (since that's as adventurous as I get gambling) that a few ice storms will have that tree down before next spring. Problem solved. It will have to be moved.

08-30-2010, 10:45 AM	#4
Rickeei Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	What if... That tree decided to fall in the very early morning and the work to remove it had to be done when the first boat who gets caught. That seems like a good reason to remove it ahead of time. Otherwise it is just a nuisance waiting to happen. Again, common sense is not common.

08-30-2010, 11:01 PM	#6
mishelmeis Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: rattlesnake island Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	i'm too new to have an opinion about the trees or the arrogance, BUT OH, MY, GOSH, that is a crowded channel! i don't want to go anywhere near that!!!! i could do an awful lot of damage in a short period of time! __________________ MiShel

08-31-2010, 07:28 PM	#10
RI Swamp Yankee Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: North Kingstown RI Posts: 688 Thanks: 143 Thanked 83 Times in 55 Posts	Maybe they could put a rope or line around the tree near the middle and an anchor on land and pull it upright. __________________ Gene ~ aka "another RI Swamp Yankee"

08-30-2010, 06:24 AM	#1
NoRegrets Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Hudson - NH Posts: 408 Thanks: 233 Thanked 212 Times in 88 Posts	I passed by the tree Saturday and the birch tree root is starting to break through the ground. Nature is going to run its course and I do not think a permit will be required to remove it. Mother nature trumps fed, state, and local laws. Traffic was not bad and the tree doesn't block the entire channel. I think 2 boats will still be able to pass even if the tree was in the water.

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08-31-2010, 04:38 PM	#9
Onshore Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 502 Thanks: 12 Thanked 423 Times in 145 Posts	If the owners were so inclined, the Shoreland Protection Act would allow the removal of that tree. There is no paperwork required, although keeping photos of the tree and the stump if it is uprooting for one's personal records is highly recommended. There would on the otherhand be Wetlands permitting required to repair any damage to the bank that may occur if the tree were to go down pulling the roots and stump out in the process. It is of course entirely the owner's perogative.

09-01-2010, 02:56 AM	#11
ApS Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Florida (Sebring & Keys), Wolfeboro Posts: 5,939 Thanks: 2,209 Thanked 776 Times in 553 Posts	State Tree, The Birch... That might work with a birch, as it seems all they do is fall down. (Looking at the latest photo, it looks like a bunch of "brother" birches are headed towards the channel, as well.) But I once tried to return a wind-blown tree to vertical from about only 10 degrees "off". (AAway from the house). I used a cable-winch of 4000 pound capacity, tightening it only one click twice a week. That "come-a-long" was at its maximum capacity, as each time, I could barely move the lever! I later soaked the earth around it, but still never succeeded in gaining more than a few degrees—after six months of trying!

09-01-2010, 08:48 AM	#12
SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	I just got a call Earl called and said he would be by sometime Friday night to take that tree down. __________________ SIKSUKR

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09-01-2010, 11:24 PM	#13
IslandRadio Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Mirror Lake - Full time resident Posts: 398 Thanks: 70 Thanked 156 Times in 61 Posts	Wow! I don't see any question at all about it - that tree is definitely a hazzard. Just surprised it went on as long as it did. That last picture really captures the whole scene - thanks for posting it! Regards, Steve

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