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![]() The incident from Wards past history was a bonehead move which, knowing Ward I suspect he regrets, This bonehead move was made while he was under the influence of to much alcohol. Nobody ! under the influence of alcohol is capable of using proper judgment. Just to make it clear to some. I do not condone that "bonehead move". You don't mix alcohol and firearms for any reason EVER. |
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Still was bonehead, and I would agree it might be time to re-evaluate his gun permits. But the core of the person seems to not be an issue. |
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Perhaps because you don't live within range of a certain 30-caliber, bullet-riddled, stump? ![]() >>> YIKES! <<<2) Come to think of it, today's newspapers will be featuring their annual warnings about filling tonight's skies with "hot lead" to bring in the New Year! ![]()
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This guy is a danger to the community. Apparently he's had other issues involving guns and they should be taken away from him as a person who can't handle responsibility.
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All I can say is..I was there at the time of "target practicing" in 2008. That reporter did not even get the address correct! It was on Wintersport..and it wasn't a "loud" party..and if truth be known..it was NOT Ward who was shooting the gun! He took the blame..All we are asking is ..why? Why put this man in jail? This is clearly a he said she said. There were NO witnesses.
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If you know that "He took the blame" then why don't you step up to the plate and tell the police who really did it. That might help Mr. Bird when it comes time for reviewing his pardon request. |
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Oh no, so Ward took the blame for someone else who had really bad judgement and now that person is not accountable (and is walking around with guns?). Why is that a good thing? Do two bad judgments make a good judgement? I don't think so. (isn't "taking the blame" a lie then? A standing lie?)
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Here's a little question that I want to throw out: What's up with Ward's nickname "Lauchy" as was printed in the LaDaSun, the other day? Anyone know where he got that nickname which is supposedly pronounced Locky. Now Locky sure seems like an unusual nickname? Also printed in the LaDaSun article it said something like Ward always carried his .45 Sig concealed and never went anywhere without it because he had a concealed carry permit and it was his right to do so.
Is "Lauchy" a nickname that was derived from Locky as in Lock & Load, or Locked & Loaded, or Locky & Loadied or something? Is "Lauchy" some type of a Moultonborough, way-out-in-the-country, down-a-long-dirt-road nickname for Ward because he was always locked & loaded? "Yes, Ward is always locked & loaded so one day we just decided to start calling him "Lauchy" and it stuck, plus he seems to like the name?" .....or something like that?
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hoooooookay!
![]() and with that, I believe we've crossed the line over into "absurd", where there's a Mickey Ds on every corner. |
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If fatlazyless is trying to be witty in his incoherent posts or is he displaying early signs of dementia...I would think the moderators would edit some of his posts.
Back on topic...Just want to throw a Hello out to Ward And Ginny....you are in many many peoples thoughts and prayers everyday...... Interlakes Class of '80 |
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I know it isn't as colorful or degrading as your sarcastic speculation but is does have much more honor and meaning than I suspect your capable of understanding. |
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One solution to some comments by "fatlazyless" or others with off base or off target/thread comments is to ignore their postings. Most of the time, they are subliminally egging people on to respond. Responding just feeds their appetite to comment further. Just one persons opinion....
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Off topic, but I've been meaning to ask you about your avatar. Is that a cap or a pancake on the bunny's head?
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Hey Rattle Island-Windy Side, while I cannot please everyone with my comments, at least it's nice to know that you are thinking about them.
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Excellent suggestion, but since he has almost twice as many posts as the number of days that he's been a member of this forum, it's likely that he doesn't have a life away from the Internet.
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...you got that one right....just a forum nitwit and all-around blabber mouth here!
Actually, I have caught the flu bug and have been flu-ed out for the last nine days caughing up yellow phlegm....but....whatever ... ...this forum is good therapy for self-medicating to lose the flu.... !
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I showed him. ![]() Haven't had a cigarette since. When you're coughing up green phlegm, cigarettes, just make your mouth taste like a seagull slept in it anyhow. NB
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I’ll say one thing about “Carolyn Pillsbury” she expressed more emotion than what Ward Bird did during his interview with WMUR TV.
Below is what I understand Ward Bird said during the interview: “I had my firearm behind my back in my belt, I pulled it out and removed the magazine, made sure the chamber was clear, made sure it was safe, and then went into his house to call the police.” Then the reporter said that Bird checks his gun out of habit before entering his home. Why would Mr. Bird unload his firearm at this time? Because it is a habit? Well to me habits go out the window when you are that upset. He would have been better off to just say I had a firearm but I never touched it during the time Harris was on my property. Also why unload your firearm each time you enter your home? I don’t! IMHO it defeats the purpose of carry one in the first place. |
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Josh McElveen of WMUR-channel 9 tv news interviewed Gov Lynch on Sunday morning and towards the end of the interview asked the Governor how he was thinking on granting a pardon to Ward Bird. Did anyone see that interview?
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Considering you brought it up.... let me guess....
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Josh McElveen did a real good job of asking questions and had follow up questions on the same topic as well. The Sunday morning interview was a different format than the WMUR evening news as they quickly went though a number of different questions. Both Josh and Gov Lynch were serious in nature and asked & answered directly and quickly to make best use of their time. Overall, it was about the best interview show I've seen on WMUR.
Hopefully, someone with better skills than me can reproduce the WMUR - Gov Lynch interview video here that asks about Ward Bird. Overall, I would say in the interview that Gov Lynch was pretty much non-committal on Ward Bird and he said that he would just have to wait for any pardon process to reach his desk first before making any decisions. If I remember correct, the five member governor's council has a five member vote on each pardon and the governor does not have a vote. What the governor does have is a veto power over any governor's council pardon vote. The governor's council currently has eight different pardons for eight different people up for consideration according to what was said in the interview. So far in the six plus years that John Lynch has served as NH governor, no pardons have been granted, but who knows.....only time will tell!
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It amazes me (not really) that nobody on the supporting side brought up the fact that he (Ward) has a past issue with handguns. All that is brought up in the first couple pages is how the accusers record has not been allowed on the record; yet those same people don't feel it is important to include Ward's background in the same sentence. How people don't realize why someone's accusations or record (if the were convicted) should not be discussed or an issue when the incidents take place AFTER the aspect of the event is beyond me.
I am not here to say he (Mr. Bird) is guilty or not, I was not there and I don't know; what I do know is that a group of his peers found him guilty and that really is enough for me. If you care to defend the accused, you might as well bring up his past instead of hiding it (unless you didn't know) and stop making the focus of your argument someone else's future (her issues occurred after this event). After reading this thread I am well aware that many might not see my viewpoint, just understand it was written by an outsider with no interest in this.. |
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Apparently you do have an interest in this or you would not have bothered to add your .02 cents worth. So given that Maybe because the "past issue" you are refereeing to has nothing to do with the present situation at hand. Also maybe next time you should take a moment to get your information correct. The "past issue " did not involve a handgun !!!!!! Your no better then the liberal newspapers that are incapable or unwilling to get their information correct. The article in the Union Leader today stated that the past owner of the property that was for sale, moved out of state to get away from the family feud. That must make one hell of a daily commute, for I understand that she works locally. The Union leader also stated that the so called victim had the "cash assets" to purchase the property. I believe that several newspapers and even the court documents had previously stated that the woman was going to try and get grants to obtain the funds with which to purchase property. Yes, I am very biased in this situation for I know Ward and I will stand beside him all the way. I also believe his story way more than I can believe the story of the "victim" |
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I'd advise anyone interested to read the court documents, especially the sentencing hearing.
The judge had NO CHOICE in how he sentenced Bird and was almost apologetic about it. It's an interesting read and really makes you wonder why/how the law passed that mandated the sentencing for this crime. |
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What amazes me is that the prosecutor offered no time in jail plus probation and an agreement that Ward not have a handgun for 2 years in return for an admission of guilt. The Prosecutor obviously thought this was a just offer. Ward Bird maintained innocence and would not plead guilty. So the prosecutor pursued a charge that had a mandatory 3 year sentence, which in my opinion is not just, nor is it in anyway comparable to the plea bargain. I understand that for a guilty person, the incentive of a plea is a lighter sentence, going to trial risks a harsher punishment. But I feel that the prosecutor in this case was not just in pursuing the charge she pursued, that the punishment does not fit the crime, especially in light of the plea deal and the if Governor Lynch has any stones, he will commute the sentence to time served, quickly.
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Christine Harris states: “she was the victim and calling Bird and his family liars”.
Below is the article that is in todays LDS: By Gail Ober THE LACONIA DAILY SUN CONCORD — A nearly 400-page pardon package concerning the Moultonborough man convicted of criminal threatening was delivered to the governor and Executive Council’s office yesterday. The package was compiled by the Office of the Attorney General and contains Ward Bird’s three sentence request for a hearing, letters of support from his family, friends and supporters, the petition signed by hundreds of people supporting his pardon request and trial documents prepared by former Carroll County Attorney Robin Gordon, whose office prosecuted him. Bird, 49, was convicted of criminal threatening in 2008 after a jury trial. N.H. law requires a manditory sentence of 3-6 years in state prison for crimes committed with guns. The N.H. Supreme Count unanimously upheld the verdict and Bird has been in jail since November — first at the N.H. State Prison and most recently at the Carroll County House of Corrections. It also contains a two-page typed statement from Christine Harris, the woman who said she was lost when she drove into Bird’s driveway in April 2006 and was subsequently threatened by Bird with a handgun when she got out of her car. “No person in his right mind would (sic) do what he did. No one would pull a hand gun (sic) on someone unless he was comfortable doing this before,” she typed in block letters telling the governor and council that she was the victim and calling Bird and his family liars. Harris went on to say that she believes she has been villianized by the media — in the time since her altercation with Bird she has been charged with animal cruelty and animal hoarding — and that she thinks he should have been kept in the New Hampshire State Prison. Gordon stated that her prosecution of Bird was based on “the dangerous use of a firearm” and that he initially told investigating officers that he “’overreacted and owes Harris an apology.’” “I have always been concerned about and willing to prosecute crime involving the misuse of guns and other dangerous weapons,” Gordon wrote. “However, I have also been open to resolving cases when there is an expression of remorse and acknowledgment of responsibility for the criminal action,” she continued. “Mr. Bird was and still is unwilling to acknowledge any wrongdoing on his part.” Those defending Bird testified to his upstanding character and his demonstrated willingness to help those in need. “Ward is among the most up-right and honest men I have ever met,” wrote Rev. Carol Snow-Asher the pastor of the Center Harbor Congregational Church attended by Bird and his family. “There are few people in this congregation (or in the community) who have not been recipients on some kindness from Ward and his family,” she continued. Also writing letters of testimony for Bird’s good character were former Police Chief Scott Kinmond and current Chief Thomas Dawson, who was a corporal when he investigated the complaint against Bird by Harris. “While I can’t opine that a complete pardon at present would be appropriate, I do believe that a commutation of his sentence that would allow him to live at his home and to continue working would be fitting and better serve the interests of justice,” Dawson said. Other letters of support come from people whose children are Boy Scouts. “I want you to approach this pardon request knowing that there are not just boys, Cub Scouts who like, trust, and count on Ward Bird, but behind each and every one of them is a parent, or two, that entrusted Ward with their sons,” wrote Rebecca L. Bryant who is a Justice of the peace and the parent of a Boy Scout. Ward’s Bird’s request for a pardon is but one of seven that will be considered by Gov. John Lynch and the Executive Council at their meeting on Jan. 19. Lynch’s press secretary Colin Manning said the Executive Council will only decide, at that time, if Bird should get a pardon hearing. |
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Based on previous posts when people discussed their handles here, he said he used to troll under the moniker "Lean Mean Less", and then changed it on a whim here.
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Maybe something like this:"We pray that Lauchie (Bird's nickname) can celebrate Christmas with the family, as we've done together all of our lives," said Bird's sister, Melissa Manville of Center Harbor. "But if he can't be with us, we will be with him in spirit." Or maybe something like this: "Ward is my brother-in-law, and I’ve observed him closely, in all manner of situations, for the past 25 years. He is known to family and friends as “Lauchie” (pronounced “Locky”), so please allow me to continue this letter using that name." |
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hello everybody,
In thinking about carrying a handgun that is totally concealed from view, here's a couple thoughts off the top of my head. - It carries with it the very big responsibility of having a very potent weapon, and a .45 Sig is a very powerful weapon. - Carrying concealed will strongly tend to empower the person with a feeling of increased security or a feeling of superiority because he probably thinks that another individual does NOT have a concealed weapon while at the same time he does. How can this influence his actions? It could make him more aggressive knowing that he can always rely on his handgun and instead of tending toward withdrawing from a confrontation, it encourages more aggressive actions. So, carrying concealed can aggravate a situation that otherwise would have been solved by speaking in a way to get along with someone as opposed to confronting them. This is known as "posturing" when your attitude effects you to assume a certain posture in your mindset. For every situation where a concealed handgun solves a security problem, there's probably three situations where it makes the situation worse because people are less likely to back down or to retreat and just call and explain the situation to the police down at 911. So, carrying concealed comes with a big responsibility and a big need to act responsibly so maybe a carry permit should require a training course and a test. After all, driving a car or piloting a boat both require a state training course and a state test so why not for handguns too? If Ward had had to make the effort to attend a training course and then pass a test, wouldn't he probably be less likely to be all locked up with his current situation? Just my two cents ..........
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