New No wake Zone

ITD · 08-26-2005, 08:37 AM

Yeah,

Great job, there had to have been 10 to 20 accidents there a week. Of course there is no way you can legally pass above headway at 150 feet there anyway because the markers are too close together (what, that's not true, doesn't matter to the RULEMAKERS). Backed up traffic won't be a problem either. I loved the public hearings on this also, well publicized and attended and thought out....... I think every channel that is less than 500 feet wide should be a NWZ. I'll sleep much better at night.

Woodsy · 08-26-2005, 08:56 AM

I normally go the Eagle/Pitchwood route anyway. I go that way because the area between Eagle/Governor's is just nuts on a weekend. Going around doesn't add that much time and is alot less nerve wracking.

As for enforcement? A few big NWZ bouys and a MP boat ought to solve it. I am sure it will catch on pretty quickly. There will be a few violators on occasion, as there are people who shoot the Weirs Channel, or Bear Island Channel etc. But I think in general it will slow a very, very congested part of the lake.... it seems to work really well over on Bear Island.

Woodsy

PROPELLER · 08-26-2005, 09:04 AM

If your going to put an MP there anyway why do you need it to be a NWZ? With an MP there they can enforce the 150' law when its violated. With more than one boat passing through its automatically a NWZ.

As I said in my earlier post, if there was MP's there frequently on weekends to begin with this would be a non-issue. Now its a NWZ even when there is 1 boat passing through & it doesn't need to be.

If there is no MP there boaters may still pass through there on plane.

Mee-n-Mac · 08-26-2005, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsy

I normally go the Eagle/Pitchwood route anyway. I go that way because the area between Eagle/Governor's is just nuts on a weekend. Going around doesn't add that much time and is alot less nerve wracking.

Generally I do the same as well. While it'll help the surf action right there on Gov's island I do wonder if the wake activity btw Eagle and the Weirs will be helped or hurt by the NWZ. Now there will be a mandated on/off plane transition in addition to the normal traffic induced one closer to the Weirs. I wonder how many will try to shoot btw the 2'nd and 3'rd black tips off Eagle ?

... and how many will make it (you can if you're careful)

Mostly it'll mean more people taking the lesser known route and probably trying to do it in a straight line fashion too

I still like the rotary idea suggested here a while back !

Woodsy · 08-26-2005, 09:45 AM

Propeller...

You cannot catch everybody... so while the MP boat has one guy pulled over for 150' violation, 10 other violations occur. It is really not a good use of MP resources to just park a boat there. There are enough 150' violations as people enter/leave the Weirs Channel to keep them busy!

Its really a matter of maximizing your resources. When they first put in the NWZ by Bear Island the same things were said. Now it works great, 99% of the people obey it. it has done wonders to calm that little section of the lake. Although I would guess Bear Islander has seen a bit more erosion on his property due to boats getting on/off plane. The NWZ between Eagle/Governors will give those people who are nervous about boat traffic a somewhat calmer way into the Weirs.

I really don't understand why people don't like the idea? It calms a very busy section of the lake, making that passage alot safer. So what if it takes you a couple of extra minutes to go around via Pitchwood or thru the NWZ?

Woodsy

parrothead · 08-26-2005, 09:58 AM

I don't see what the big deal is either. Why is everyone in such a hurry?? So it takes a couple of minutes more, big deal. I'm on the lake to relax, I rush enough during the week.

jkjoshuatree · 08-28-2005, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by parrothead

I don't see what the big deal is either. Why is everyone in such a hurry?? So it takes a couple of minutes more, big deal. I'm on the lake to relax, I rush enough during the week.

I agree. Smell the flowers while you can!!!

SIKSUKR · 08-26-2005, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mee-n-Mac

I still like the rotary idea suggested here a while back !

Thanks M@M,that was my idea.I still think that could be better than a NWZ but I for one don't have a problem with a NWZ in that area.It makes more sense to have one there for safety reasons than it does for the extended NWZ in Merideth.

ART · 08-26-2005, 06:21 PM

I agree, Passing between Eagle & Governors is dangerous with boats at speed. Nice job NHRBA...keep up the good work!

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08-26-2005, 08:37 AM	#1
ITD Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonboro, NH Posts: 2,934 Thanks: 478 Thanked 694 Times in 389 Posts	Yeah, Great job, there had to have been 10 to 20 accidents there a week. Of course there is no way you can legally pass above headway at 150 feet there anyway because the markers are too close together (what, that's not true, doesn't matter to the RULEMAKERS). Backed up traffic won't be a problem either. I loved the public hearings on this also, well publicized and attended and thought out....... I think every channel that is less than 500 feet wide should be a NWZ. I'll sleep much better at night.

08-26-2005, 08:56 AM	#2
Woodsy Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Weirs Beach Posts: 1,966 Thanks: 80 Thanked 980 Times in 440 Posts	I normally go the Eagle/Pitchwood route anyway. I go that way because the area between Eagle/Governor's is just nuts on a weekend. Going around doesn't add that much time and is alot less nerve wracking. As for enforcement? A few big NWZ bouys and a MP boat ought to solve it. I am sure it will catch on pretty quickly. There will be a few violators on occasion, as there are people who shoot the Weirs Channel, or Bear Island Channel etc. But I think in general it will slow a very, very congested part of the lake.... it seems to work really well over on Bear Island. Woodsy

08-26-2005, 09:04 AM	#3
PROPELLER Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 340 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	If your going to put an MP there anyway why do you need it to be a NWZ? With an MP there they can enforce the 150' law when its violated. With more than one boat passing through its automatically a NWZ. As I said in my earlier post, if there was MP's there frequently on weekends to begin with this would be a non-issue. Now its a NWZ even when there is 1 boat passing through & it doesn't need to be. If there is no MP there boaters may still pass through there on plane.

08-26-2005, 09:45 AM	#5
Woodsy Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Weirs Beach Posts: 1,966 Thanks: 80 Thanked 980 Times in 440 Posts	Propeller... You cannot catch everybody... so while the MP boat has one guy pulled over for 150' violation, 10 other violations occur. It is really not a good use of MP resources to just park a boat there. There are enough 150' violations as people enter/leave the Weirs Channel to keep them busy! Its really a matter of maximizing your resources. When they first put in the NWZ by Bear Island the same things were said. Now it works great, 99% of the people obey it. it has done wonders to calm that little section of the lake. Although I would guess Bear Islander has seen a bit more erosion on his property due to boats getting on/off plane. The NWZ between Eagle/Governors will give those people who are nervous about boat traffic a somewhat calmer way into the Weirs. I really don't understand why people don't like the idea? It calms a very busy section of the lake, making that passage alot safer. So what if it takes you a couple of extra minutes to go around via Pitchwood or thru the NWZ? Woodsy

08-26-2005, 06:21 PM	#9
ART Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Medfield/Wolfeboro Posts: 109 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I agree, Passing between Eagle & Governors is dangerous with boats at speed. Nice job NHRBA...keep up the good work!