Weirs channel coexistence

Retired Ole Guy · 08-27-2013, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PaugusBayFireFighter

I travel through the channel almost daily. I have seen lots of crazy things but that's part of the fun of cruising through. It's a circus on the weekends and that's fine with me. If you expect to travel through that channel and not encounter wake or see something that doesn't translate into proper boating etiquette, avoid it, it's a huge lake.
The summers are short and life's even shorter...a little wake in the Weirs channel is nothing to stress about.
Weirs Archimedes when you need him??

Ahem!!!! the only wake I want to stress about is my own and by then it will be to late

NH_boater · 08-27-2013, 02:08 PM

I live by the Alton no wake zone and seen everything from barely crawling to full plane thru the NWZ. Life is too short to get all bunched up on this. I feel bad for those who wait around for the next infraction. If you dock on the lake, especially near NWZ's where people are coming off and on plane, you will be affected by passing boats. People on the lake behave a lot like the same people on our roads.

Better to just enjoy the lake. I try to do this and most days I do.

mowtorman · 09-01-2013, 12:38 AM

Couldn't agree more with the right to enjoy beautiful days and sharing a natural resource. The issue to me is safety overall, which is compromised by mixed use, high volume and careless/discourteous behavior. Duoprops are meat cleavers that can do more damage in a shorter period of time than an alligator. People are swimming in the channel very close to power boats, exercising their right to enjoy themselves. There are other problem areas on the lake for sure, for example Center Harbor beach. A power boat with a mechanical issue or incapacitated driver could easily go straight across the swim raft. Nothing's ever a problem until after the fact, like pond skimming. In general prevention and common sense are a lot easier to deal with than fixing a problem after it occurs. One of the best tests of mixed use recreation will be next weekend when non powered craft take over the domain of powered craft. Gatherings of people with common interests are one thing, pursuit of contrived "world records" is another. The volume of power boats in the channel should be reduced with the event happening after Labor Day, though a lot of people will be putting their power boats away. Maybe we'll have our first tropical storm of the season and it will all be a moot point. Have to see what happens with the wakes of the Sophie and Doris and the big Carvers that like to put up big wakes in Weirs Bay with volumes of novice kayakers and other paddle craft. BTW - how many "F bombs" have you heard dropped in the channel this year?

Legionnaire70 · 09-02-2013, 11:19 PM

Anyone else witness the formula/Donzi that went screaming out of the channel at about 30 mph yesterday passing several boats along the way IN the channel?
I've seen a lot, that tops them all! What a tool!

BroadHopper · 09-03-2013, 12:56 PM

I recall a red boat with NJ registration going crazy in Saunders Bay.

chris410 · 09-11-2013, 01:28 PM

Speaking of bad boating etiquette, I launched from the "new" public ramp in Alton bay on Saturday. Headed up towards Wolfeboro, while waiting in line with the rest of the boats I must have been cut in line by three other boats who came way after me. All with bigger boats tan mine who probably thought they were more important. Then after getting lunch in Wolfeboro, I see another boat tag a sailboat that was docked pretty good, I wasn’t too close to the action so I wasn’t sure what the outcome was, but to me, it looked like the offending party just took off.

The best part is when I went to pull my boat out of the water at the ramp. The boaters in front of me just decided to pull their much larger and newer boat half out of the water proceeding to block the entire ramp , The wife was driving and the husband was doing something up on the boat, I figured he would come down and move the boat/truck into a better location eventually, So i tried to be patient and after the minutes just tick away, he has no intention of doing that. So I give him a friendly toot toot of the horn. And he flips out on me telling me there is another car in front of him and to just “chill out bro!”

Yes there was another boat/truck in front of him, but he had many other options he could have taken other then completly blocking the ramp. He could have moved up another 35 feet so that it looked like he was at least trying to get out of my way, he could have asked the other boater to move his truck/trailer up so that they were not blocking the ramp, he could have moved off to the side so that he wasn’t blocking the ramp, he could have drove out the entrance so that he was blocking the ramp. Instead he decided to be a rude and inconsiderate person and block the ramp and give me attitude.

Besides that, still a nice day at the lake!

salty dog · 09-16-2013, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by chris410

Speaking of bad boating etiquette, I launched from the "new" public ramp in Alton bay on Saturday. Headed up towards Wolfeboro, while waiting in line with the rest of the boats I must have been cut in line by three other boats who came way after me. All with bigger boats tan mine who probably thought they were more important. Then after getting lunch in Wolfeboro, I see another boat tag a sailboat that was docked pretty good, I wasn’t too close to the action so I wasn’t sure what the outcome was, but to me, it looked like the offending party just took off.

The best part is when I went to pull my boat out of the water at the ramp. The boaters in front of me just decided to pull their much larger and newer boat half out of the water proceeding to block the entire ramp , The wife was driving and the husband was doing something up on the boat, I figured he would come down and move the boat/truck into a better location eventually, So i tried to be patient and after the minutes just tick away, he has no intention of doing that. So I give him a friendly toot toot of the horn. And he flips out on me telling me there is another car in front of him and to just “chill out bro!”

Yes there was another boat/truck in front of him, but he had many other options he could have taken other then completly blocking the ramp. He could have moved up another 35 feet so that it looked like he was at least trying to get out of my way, he could have asked the other boater to move his truck/trailer up so that they were not blocking the ramp, he could have moved off to the side so that he wasn't blocking the ramp, he could have drove out the entrance so that he was blocking the ramp. Instead he decided to be a rude and inconsiderate person and block the ramp and give me attitude.

Besides that, still a nice day at the lake!

Sounds like another "behaving badly at the launch ramp" youtube vid. It is unfortunate but as another poster stated, it's just like on the highways, you're going to witness all sorts of behavior. I had been launching the last few years from Alton (Downing's) and they were usually always there on weekends directing activities, keeping the flow going and helping to keep some semblance of "who's on first". It was also nice because you could keep your trailer there overnight or for a week. That's changed now with the state taking over. I tried once earlier this season on a busy Sunday and it was very zooy but certainly that can be the case for any public launch ramp on a weekend day. I made a change of plans, now keeping my boat at Andrew's Marina full time, on the trailer, and when I go do a put in, it's pretty much just me. Nice. It's pleasant to start and end the day with low blood pressure!

Dave R · 09-16-2013, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by chris410

Speaking of bad boating etiquette, I launched from the "new" public ramp in Alton bay on Saturday. Headed up towards Wolfeboro, while waiting in line with the rest of the boats I must have been cut in line by three other boats who came way after me. All with bigger boats tan mine who probably thought they were more important. Then after getting lunch in Wolfeboro, I see another boat tag a sailboat that was docked pretty good, I wasn’t too close to the action so I wasn’t sure what the outcome was, but to me, it looked like the offending party just took off.

The best part is when I went to pull my boat out of the water at the ramp. The boaters in front of me just decided to pull their much larger and newer boat half out of the water proceeding to block the entire ramp , The wife was driving and the husband was doing something up on the boat, I figured he would come down and move the boat/truck into a better location eventually, So i tried to be patient and after the minutes just tick away, he has no intention of doing that. So I give him a friendly toot toot of the horn. And he flips out on me telling me there is another car in front of him and to just “chill out bro!”

Yes there was another boat/truck in front of him, but he had many other options he could have taken other then completly blocking the ramp. He could have moved up another 35 feet so that it looked like he was at least trying to get out of my way, he could have asked the other boater to move his truck/trailer up so that they were not blocking the ramp, he could have moved off to the side so that he wasn’t blocking the ramp, he could have drove out the entrance so that he was blocking the ramp. Instead he decided to be a rude and inconsiderate person and block the ramp and give me attitude.

Besides that, still a nice day at the lake!

When people at that ramp block the tie down area, I just pull up to the left next to them and do my work on the hillside.

Ever since it became a public ramp, the parking accuracy has suffered dramatically. This guy did a particularly poor job of parking:

tis · 09-17-2013, 07:26 AM

So when one goes over the line, they all go over the line. I hate that.

Dave R · 09-17-2013, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tis

So when one goes over the line, they all go over the line. I hate that.

Nope, just those two. The sad thing is, I could have moved the trailer on the left by simply picking it up. Also, the trailer on the far right is miniscule, so even if the blue trailer had been parked over the line a little, the would still be room for three trailers in three spots instead of four. I got the last available spot that morning so the poor parking did not affect me, but I imagine the next person at the ramp saw that blue trailer and no empty spots and was rather irritated.

BroadHopper · 09-17-2013, 07:07 PM

I would have taken the next space and park between the lines and look like the nice guy.

upthesaukee · 09-17-2013, 08:56 PM

...the license plate is a NH Conservation Vanity plate and the name is "Guide" . Is he/she actually a guide???? Ovey!

Dave R · 09-18-2013, 08:24 AM

One thing to note, that photo was taken at around 9 AM and there may have been fisherman that had already called it quits and gone home then. There's no way to know what the parking situation was like when Guide+ parked. For all we know, 10 rigs may have been parked poorly and that one was parked tightly in the only available space.

Dave R · 09-18-2013, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by upthesaukee

...the license plate is a NH Conservation Vanity plate and the name is "Guide" . Is he/she actually a guide???? Ovey!

Might actually refer to the seeing-eye dog that helped the driver park the rig.

09-01-2013, 12:38 AM	#3
mowtorman Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 231 Thanks: 75 Thanked 142 Times in 79 Posts	Enjoyment Couldn't agree more with the right to enjoy beautiful days and sharing a natural resource. The issue to me is safety overall, which is compromised by mixed use, high volume and careless/discourteous behavior. Duoprops are meat cleavers that can do more damage in a shorter period of time than an alligator. People are swimming in the channel very close to power boats, exercising their right to enjoy themselves. There are other problem areas on the lake for sure, for example Center Harbor beach. A power boat with a mechanical issue or incapacitated driver could easily go straight across the swim raft. Nothing's ever a problem until after the fact, like pond skimming. In general prevention and common sense are a lot easier to deal with than fixing a problem after it occurs. One of the best tests of mixed use recreation will be next weekend when non powered craft take over the domain of powered craft. Gatherings of people with common interests are one thing, pursuit of contrived "world records" is another. The volume of power boats in the channel should be reduced with the event happening after Labor Day, though a lot of people will be putting their power boats away. Maybe we'll have our first tropical storm of the season and it will all be a moot point. Have to see what happens with the wakes of the Sophie and Doris and the big Carvers that like to put up big wakes in Weirs Bay with volumes of novice kayakers and other paddle craft. BTW - how many "F bombs" have you heard dropped in the channel this year?

09-03-2013, 12:56 PM	#5
BroadHopper Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Laconia NH Posts: 5,586 Thanks: 3,228 Thanked 1,107 Times in 797 Posts	Was it a red one? I recall a red boat with NJ registration going crazy in Saunders Bay. __________________ Someday may never be an actual day.

09-17-2013, 07:07 PM	#11
BroadHopper Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Laconia NH Posts: 5,586 Thanks: 3,228 Thanked 1,107 Times in 797 Posts	Line I would have taken the next space and park between the lines and look like the nice guy. __________________ Someday may never be an actual day.

09-17-2013, 08:56 PM	#12
upthesaukee Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Alton Bay Posts: 5,601 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 2,465 Thanked 1,983 Times in 1,083 Posts	Worst part of the parking problem is... ...the license plate is a NH Conservation Vanity plate and the name is "Guide" . Is he/she actually a guide???? Ovey! __________________ I Live Here... I am always UPTHESAUKEE !!!!

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NH_boater Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 298 Thanks: 14 Thanked 147 Times in 62 Posts	I live by the Alton no wake zone and seen everything from barely crawling to full plane thru the NWZ. Life is too short to get all bunched up on this. I feel bad for those who wait around for the next infraction. If you dock on the lake, especially near NWZ's where people are coming off and on plane, you will be affected by passing boats. People on the lake behave a lot like the same people on our roads. Better to just enjoy the lake. I try to do this and most days I do.

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09-02-2013, 11:19 PM	#4
Legionnaire70 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Alton Bay Posts: 119 Thanks: 25 Thanked 31 Times in 21 Posts	Anyone else witness the formula/Donzi that went screaming out of the channel at about 30 mph yesterday passing several boats along the way IN the channel? I've seen a lot, that tops them all! What a tool!

09-11-2013, 01:28 PM	#6
chris410 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 19 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Speaking of bad boating etiquette, I launched from the "new" public ramp in Alton bay on Saturday. Headed up towards Wolfeboro, while waiting in line with the rest of the boats I must have been cut in line by three other boats who came way after me. All with bigger boats tan mine who probably thought they were more important. Then after getting lunch in Wolfeboro, I see another boat tag a sailboat that was docked pretty good, I wasn’t too close to the action so I wasn’t sure what the outcome was, but to me, it looked like the offending party just took off. The best part is when I went to pull my boat out of the water at the ramp. The boaters in front of me just decided to pull their much larger and newer boat half out of the water proceeding to block the entire ramp , The wife was driving and the husband was doing something up on the boat, I figured he would come down and move the boat/truck into a better location eventually, So i tried to be patient and after the minutes just tick away, he has no intention of doing that. So I give him a friendly toot toot of the horn. And he flips out on me telling me there is another car in front of him and to just “chill out bro!” Yes there was another boat/truck in front of him, but he had many other options he could have taken other then completly blocking the ramp. He could have moved up another 35 feet so that it looked like he was at least trying to get out of my way, he could have asked the other boater to move his truck/trailer up so that they were not blocking the ramp, he could have moved off to the side so that he wasn’t blocking the ramp, he could have drove out the entrance so that he was blocking the ramp. Instead he decided to be a rude and inconsiderate person and block the ramp and give me attitude. Besides that, still a nice day at the lake!

09-17-2013, 07:26 AM	#9
tis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,755 Thanks: 753 Thanked 1,461 Times in 1,018 Posts	So when one goes over the line, they all go over the line. I hate that.

09-18-2013, 08:24 AM	#13
Dave R Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,985 Thanks: 246 Thanked 744 Times in 444 Posts	One thing to note, that photo was taken at around 9 AM and there may have been fisherman that had already called it quits and gone home then. There's no way to know what the parking situation was like when Guide+ parked. For all we know, 10 rigs may have been parked poorly and that one was parked tightly in the only available space.