Moultonboro island first responder

[Chaselady]

Originally Posted by dave603

Everyone here who happens to live out on one of the islands, and even those ashore needs to remember.
It's NOT always a good thing to move someone that's been hurt.
Depending on the injury, you could be causing more damage than you are helping. Sometimes even in a case of a broken leg, depending on how bad the break is. I've seen bones out in bad breaks. Moving those is tricky at times.

That's what first a responder is trained to access.
If this case had been a... let's say a back or neck injury, I'm sure they would NOT have thrown her into a jon boat.

Thanks for clarifying that. I do know, it was late, MP was present to help for support, and it appeared to be a bad break.

[Coolbreeze]

You are pretty ignorant for the post that bashes people who helped you...you should feel pretty low right now.
I have lived on a island for almost 40 years, I have experienced fires, medical emergencies, boat accidents even people falling through the ice in the winter during that time. Common sense has taught most island dwellers that any help from the mainland is a long time away. As islanders and neighbors, we have fought the brush fires, tended to the medical emergencies ourselves until the troops arrived. In several occasions we have met the ambulance at the town docks. If you live on an island and have a major emergency- plan on waiting for help. Question, was it the ambulance service that came or the fire department?
I am amazed that anyone who has ever lived on the island or in a rural area wouldn't already know this.
For everyone bashing the responders; instead of complaining about how the system didn't do for you, learn how to use the system. Most 911 operators will walk you through simple first aid. If you think transporting yourself is the safest way to go, then prepare for it even in your mind before the crisis arises. (Side note, a lawn chair is a great way to move a injured person. Remember the picture of the FDNY chaplain who was killed in the 9-11attacks, he was carried for several city blocks in a desk chair from an office. Kudos to the responders for that idea.)
I have come to the conclusion in my life while at the island, that if I have a heart attack- I am going to die. Simply put, any help from the mainland can't get to me within the golden hour. Any chance of my survival will come from the people who can render aid immediately- my neighbors and family members.
It isn't going to be the first responders; it is foolish to think otherwise.
The same fact holds true if my island house catches fire... plan on it burning to the ground. A garden hose won't stop a cottage on fire.
In a life medical emergency, humans have a golden hour to get professional medical help in order to keep the upper hand of survival. A fire doubles in size every thirty seconds.
The reality of a response from 911: It takes an average of 5 minutes to take a 911 call and for the dispatcher to direct it to the right department. Add to that, the response time of the volunteer after being paged; seven minutes -at least- before the truck hits the road. Now we are into the call and responding in 12 minutes. Add to the time to get to the boat, don protective gear, get GPS coordinates, man the boat with enough help and motor out. Now add more time to find the dock without a street number... in the dark. In the case of the responding department they did pretty well in my book.
Not everything is as instantaneous in our lives as you would expect or want. Prepare yourself to be self-reliant in a crisis. Stop looking to bashing your neighbors who helped you and take some responsibility for your own survival.

[pcmc]

OMG, CoolBreeze, I feel as though I have just been exposed to the true spirit of the NH motto, " LIVE FREE OR DIE". Bravo!

Imo it starts a tad strong. We can all voice our opinions, some come out in print well, some not. fine.

There are most likely two very different sides to this story. Hearing the side in need will never come across well.

What I find over the top is the post with the images. That is a public kick in the face to the entire department. If we were talking about a product that didn't perform as expected is one thing. Bashing people that did what had to do, with what they had to do it with, at 11PM at night. REALLY!

Why not everyone take a boat onto the lake, around midnight, pick a random island and walk around carrying a chair with 80lbs in it while looking graceful.

Imo, as someone said early on, hopefully the dept will view this and make a positive from it. What were the issues, what can help solve them, and how do they implement the equipment and ideas into service?

[wifi]

Idea: Does your island association have AED(s)? Do you know where it is? Not the OPs original problem, but CB thought they would die, maybe not. I'm fortunate enough to know of one within 1000 feet of my house. Family members/friends would have no problems getting to it if needed.

Get a few, sprinkle around the island, on the neighbors front porches, for example. I'm not trying to create a debate point.

[dave603]

Originally Posted by wifi

Idea: Does your island association have AED(s)? Do you know where it is? Not the OPs original problem, but CB thought they would die, maybe not. I'm fortunate enough to know of one within 1000 feet of my house. Family members/friends would have no problems getting to it if needed.

Get a few, sprinkle around the island, on the neighbors front porches, for example. I'm not trying to create a debate point.

This is the best thing to come from this thread so far.

[Lakesrider]

I took the pictures out. Even though it was a close representation of the original posts descriptions.

Are you saying it is a fact they "grabbed" a woman, a fact that they "dropped her into a chair", a fact that they tried to start the engine 13 times? Really? She counted?.....Fact is this probably did not happen. And BTW it was never determined that Chaselady was actually standing there. Fact is that the original posting is disparaging and should never have been posted with the last sentence she put up. Fact is these better be facts, because I would be asking if that first posting was slanderous if they were not...