Speed trap camera?

VitaBene · 09-09-2013, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by brk-lnt

These cameras are not seeing any sort of wide-spread deployment. Frame rates are too low, storage costs are too high. They make a nice demo though.

I typically spec 5 MP cameras for most exterior locations. We have used some Aviglon 29MP cameras at some airports.

HellRaZoR004 · 09-09-2013, 03:02 PM

Where's Waldo?

Interesting image - it appears to have some post processing done though as some of the people appear to suddenly turn towards the camera as if it were a previous frame.

RailroadJoe · 09-09-2013, 03:12 PM

bclaker Thanks for that look at what the camera shows. Scary as to who you can pick out. That must be one mean camera.

Lakesrider · 09-09-2013, 03:49 PM

Well I just drove by it on the way home. My detector goes off about 100 feet from the box. So I stopped and the detector was at full signal display sitting right next to it. So it is certainly the box. That box is temporary and new with padlocks on it. Maybe a traffic counter of some sort as I did not see a lens or eye on it anywhere. So here a couple pics of it. I am curious as to what it is though.

Hmmmmm.......

HellRaZoR004 · 09-09-2013, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lakesrider

Well I just drove by it on the way home. My detector goes off about 100 feet from the box. So I stopped and the detector was at full signal display sitting right next to it. So it is certainly the box. That box is temporary and new with padlocks on it. Maybe a traffic counter of some sort as I did not see a lens or eye on it anywhere. So here a couple pics of it. I am curious as to what it is though.

Hmmmmm.......

Collects traffic data using RADAR (volume, speed, etc). It's an alternative to the run-over data collection method.
http://www.jamartech.com/radarrecorder.html

tis · 09-09-2013, 04:57 PM

So are you saying it is really a speed trap? And will you get a ticket if you are going too fast, just like with the red light cameras? If so, all I can say is, God this is scary. As someone said, big brother is watching you!! When is all this going to stop????? Please tell me it isn't so.

RailroadJoe · 09-09-2013, 05:15 PM

Apparently, no camera. Just a new way to collect data. It holds the speed, direction and mostly counts cars. Better than a hose across the road.

Lakesrider · 09-09-2013, 05:45 PM

So the next question I guess would be why in that location? That is a long straight with a passing zone in it. But no homes or businesses there.

Blue Thunder · 09-09-2013, 06:08 PM

LEO here. That's called a "Speed Spy". It is recording the speed of vehicles and will probably be removed within two weeks of its placement. It helps law enforcement establish a base line of what speeds vehicles are actually traveling at any given location so when complaints come in that all vehicles are speeding, they have the documentation to confirm or dispute the allegation. Over and out.
BT

wifi · 09-09-2013, 06:13 PM

They had the same box near the PD, where it slows to 30, early this summer, then moved it to near the Center Harbor Diner, they were both in place for 3-4 weeks.

Can't imagine there won't be one on the neck, probably surveying for the highest revenue spot for a trap.

I'm also getting a new hit between Buckeys and 109/old 109, telephone poles are obscured by trees, probably the same thing.

NoBozo · 09-10-2013, 10:37 AM

SO: I wonder if this device can detect your Cell Phone signal as you drive by...kinda like "Over The Road" EZPass... and ID you that way..??? Just wonderin

NB

PS: A further thought: If you are speeding, the "Box" could send you a Text Speeding Ticket instantly.

Excellent.

TiltonBB · 09-10-2013, 12:12 PM

Many cities and towns are conntracting with private companies to install red light cameras. The general agreement is for the community to invest nothing and the camera company will photograph violators and administer all aspects of the program and mail the city or town a monthly check.

I know that in some towns the ticket you get offers a discount, pay by mail with no points on your license program, or a higher fine amount and points if you choose to go to court and contest the ticket. It seems like it is all about revenue generation and has very little to do with public safety.

tis · 09-10-2013, 12:40 PM

In Florida they have the red light cameras and I heard that almost everyone who takes it to court wins. I don't remember all the details but the cities that installed them are losing money on them. THey are not working out as the cities hoped. I am sure you can google it if you want details. I should have said on stop lights. I never heard of them before this for speed.

patman · 09-10-2013, 10:14 PM

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/201...-camera-ticket

SteveA · 09-11-2013, 05:18 AM

"When everybody's out to get you, paranoia is just good thinking." - Dr Johnny Fever - WKRP in Cincinnati ...

dpg · 09-11-2013, 06:41 AM

Do the speed limit (or close to it) and there's no need to worry about it.

patman · 09-11-2013, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dpg

Do the speed limit (or close to it) and there's no need to worry about it.

Obviously you didn't read the link I posted...

brk-lnt · 09-09-2013, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tis

So are you saying it is really a speed trap? And will you get a ticket if you are going too fast, just like with the red light cameras? If so, all I can say is, God this is scary. As someone said, big brother is watching you!! When is all this going to stop????? Please tell me it isn't so.

Could be a testing site for a future speed camera, could be a traffic counter for road repair projection purposes, could be lots of things. But, in its current deployment it does not appear to be able to capture any identifiable data, just vehicle counts.

wifi · 09-15-2013, 04:18 PM

Lakesrider posted a clear picture
HellRaZoR004 posted a link to what it is

Why is there so much expounding, or are we not reading all the posts before we respond ?

Newbiesaukee · 09-15-2013, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by wifi

Lakesrider posted a clear picture
HellRaZoR004 posted a link to what it is

Why is there so much expounding, or are we not reading all the posts before we respond ?

You mean we're supposed to read before commenting??? What a concept.

riverat · 09-10-2013, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by HellRaZoR004

Where's Waldo?

Interesting image - it appears to have some post processing done though as some of the people appear to suddenly turn towards the camera as if it were a previous frame.

That's too funny, I found him under the larger tree center left in the image, zoomed in of course. back to the camera.

RailroadJoe · 09-10-2013, 08:45 AM

Who won the game that they were all watching on the big screen?

witchboat · 09-10-2013, 09:36 AM

Seems to me like this was most likely installed for a traffic study. I would speculate it is done in conjunction with a proposed development, and what impact that would have on current traffic conditions

phoenix · 09-15-2013, 03:08 PM

speed traps generally have multiple cameras so that they can get multiple shots including from the rear as soon states only have one license plate and if so it is in the back. they usually will only send a ticket is they have a good clear facial picture. We have them in AZ and there is always a sign a few feet before saying photo enforcement zone. This certainly doesn't look like a speed trap a camera to me

09-09-2013, 06:08 PM	#9
Blue Thunder Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Eastern MA & Frye Island/Sebago Lake, Maine Posts: 952 Thanks: 254 Thanked 351 Times in 158 Posts	LEO here. That's called a "Speed Spy". It is recording the speed of vehicles and will probably be removed within two weeks of its placement. It helps law enforcement establish a base line of what speeds vehicles are actually traveling at any given location so when complaints come in that all vehicles are speeding, they have the documentation to confirm or dispute the allegation. Over and out. BT __________________ " Live for today because yesterday is gone and tomorrow may never come"

09-10-2013, 12:12 PM	#12
TiltonBB Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Gilford, NH and Florida Posts: 3,029 Thanks: 708 Thanked 2,209 Times in 941 Posts	Municipal money Many cities and towns are conntracting with private companies to install red light cameras. The general agreement is for the community to invest nothing and the camera company will photograph violators and administer all aspects of the program and mail the city or town a monthly check. I know that in some towns the ticket you get offers a discount, pay by mail with no points on your license program, or a higher fine amount and points if you choose to go to court and contest the ticket. It seems like it is all about revenue generation and has very little to do with public safety.

09-11-2013, 05:18 AM	#15
SteveA Deceased Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gilford, NH Posts: 2,311 Thanks: 1,070 Thanked 2,054 Times in 497 Posts	Dr. Johnny Fever... "When everybody's out to get you, paranoia is just good thinking." - Dr Johnny Fever - WKRP in Cincinnati ... __________________ "Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry he'll be a mile away and barefoot!" unknown

09-15-2013, 04:18 PM	#19
wifi Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Lakes Region Posts: 1,321 Thanks: 282 Thanked 287 Times in 169 Posts	Good grief Lakesrider posted a clear picture HellRaZoR004 posted a link to what it is Why is there so much expounding, or are we not reading all the posts before we respond ?

09-10-2013, 09:36 AM	#23
witchboat Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: BILLERICA/WOLFEBORO Posts: 27 Thanks: 1 Thanked 14 Times in 6 Posts	traffic study Seems to me like this was most likely installed for a traffic study. I would speculate it is done in conjunction with a proposed development, and what impact that would have on current traffic conditions

09-09-2013, 03:02 PM	#2
HellRaZoR004 Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Litchfield/Gilford Posts: 828 Thanks: 233 Thanked 224 Times in 131 Posts	Where's Waldo? Interesting image - it appears to have some post processing done though as some of the people appear to suddenly turn towards the camera as if it were a previous frame.

09-09-2013, 03:12 PM	#3
RailroadJoe Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 620 Thanks: 259 Thanked 158 Times in 100 Posts	bclaker Thanks for that look at what the camera shows. Scary as to who you can pick out. That must be one mean camera.

09-09-2013, 03:49 PM	#4
Lakesrider Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,129 Thanks: 380 Thanked 1,016 Times in 345 Posts	Well I just drove by it on the way home. My detector goes off about 100 feet from the box. So I stopped and the detector was at full signal display sitting right next to it. So it is certainly the box. That box is temporary and new with padlocks on it. Maybe a traffic counter of some sort as I did not see a lens or eye on it anywhere. So here a couple pics of it. I am curious as to what it is though. Hmmmmm.......

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09-09-2013, 04:57 PM	#6
tis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,778 Thanks: 755 Thanked 1,466 Times in 1,022 Posts	So are you saying it is really a speed trap? And will you get a ticket if you are going too fast, just like with the red light cameras? If so, all I can say is, God this is scary. As someone said, big brother is watching you!! When is all this going to stop????? Please tell me it isn't so.

09-09-2013, 05:15 PM	#7
RailroadJoe Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 620 Thanks: 259 Thanked 158 Times in 100 Posts	Apparently, no camera. Just a new way to collect data. It holds the speed, direction and mostly counts cars. Better than a hose across the road.

09-09-2013, 05:45 PM	#8
Lakesrider Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,129 Thanks: 380 Thanked 1,016 Times in 345 Posts	So the next question I guess would be why in that location? That is a long straight with a passing zone in it. But no homes or businesses there.

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09-09-2013, 06:13 PM	#10
wifi Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Lakes Region Posts: 1,321 Thanks: 282 Thanked 287 Times in 169 Posts	They had the same box near the PD, where it slows to 30, early this summer, then moved it to near the Center Harbor Diner, they were both in place for 3-4 weeks. Can't imagine there won't be one on the neck, probably surveying for the highest revenue spot for a trap. I'm also getting a new hit between Buckeys and 109/old 109, telephone poles are obscured by trees, probably the same thing.

09-10-2013, 10:37 AM	#11
NoBozo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth. RI Posts: 2,231 Thanks: 400 Thanked 460 Times in 308 Posts	SO: I wonder if this device can detect your Cell Phone signal as you drive by...kinda like "Over The Road" EZPass... and ID you that way..??? Just wonderin NB PS: A further thought: If you are speeding, the "Box" could send you a Text Speeding Ticket instantly. Excellent.

09-10-2013, 12:40 PM	#13
tis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,778 Thanks: 755 Thanked 1,466 Times in 1,022 Posts	In Florida they have the red light cameras and I heard that almost everyone who takes it to court wins. I don't remember all the details but the cities that installed them are losing money on them. THey are not working out as the cities hoped. I am sure you can google it if you want details. I should have said on stop lights. I never heard of them before this for speed.

09-10-2013, 10:14 PM	#14
patman Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NH Posts: 380 Thanks: 56 Thanked 156 Times in 78 Posts	http://articles.baltimoresun.com/201...-camera-ticket

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09-11-2013, 06:41 AM	#16
dpg Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,604 Thanks: 155 Thanked 231 Times in 168 Posts	Do the speed limit (or close to it) and there's no need to worry about it.

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09-10-2013, 08:45 AM	#22
RailroadJoe Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 620 Thanks: 259 Thanked 158 Times in 100 Posts	Who won the game that they were all watching on the big screen?

09-15-2013, 03:08 PM	#24
phoenix Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: phoenix and moultonboro Posts: 1,560 Thanks: 61 Thanked 276 Times in 194 Posts	speed traps generally have multiple cameras so that they can get multiple shots including from the rear as soon states only have one license plate and if so it is in the back. they usually will only send a ticket is they have a good clear facial picture. We have them in AZ and there is always a sign a few feet before saying photo enforcement zone. This certainly doesn't look like a speed trap a camera to me __________________ it's tough to make predictions specially about the future

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