Lavinia's

jetskier · 02-10-2014, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Lavinias Chef

So happy to be here (both in the kitchen and on this forum!)

Lavinia's has had the reputation of being expensive and providing variable service/quality. As such, the baseline perception of the menu by most will be that it is a bit pricey. In fact this may not be the case based upon portions, food quality and service. The only way to know is to actually try it.

The menu seems a bit limited (perhaps to maintain quality) and it does not have what I would call "signature items". Pulled pork sandwiches, burgers and fish & chips are lower fare dining and readily available in the area. Yet, they comprise a high percentage of the menu offerings.

So, the question is where in the overall ecosystem does Lavinia's want to fit? Personally, I think that there is a dearth of high end options in the lakes region. I am sure that the members of this forum will be happy to give you their feedback. Perhaps, you might solicit suggestions for dishes as a way to test the market. I would suggest that you add a baked brie starter to the menu...that is always hard to find in the lakes region. ...and don't get me started on wines...

Jetskier

Shore Driver · 02-10-2014, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jetskier

Lavinia's has had the reputation of being expensive and providing variable service/quality. As such, the baseline perception of the menu by most will be that it is a bit pricey. In fact this may not be the case based upon portions, food quality and service. The only way to know is to actually try it.

The menu seems a bit limited (perhaps to maintain quality) and it does not have what I would call "signature items". Pulled pork sandwiches, burgers and fish & chips are lower fare dining and readily available in the area. Yet, they comprise a high percentage of the menu offerings.

So, the question is where in the overall ecosystem does Lavinia's want to fit? Personally, I think that there is a dearth of high end options in the lakes region. I am sure that the members of this forum will be happy to give you their feedback. Perhaps, you might solicit suggestions for dishes as a way to test the market. I would suggest that you add a baked brie starter to the menu...that is always hard to find in the lakes region. ...and don't get me started on wines...

Jetskier

You make a good point here. Tavern 27/Ray started off doing just that on here. He is the benchmark for soliciting feedback on this forum and then going on to great success.

Pineedles · 02-10-2014, 03:18 PM

Just a little reminder of the historical significance of Lavinia's and it's namesake from the Lake Winnipesaukee Historical Society's archives.

"John Coe was born in Durham, New Hampshire on November 3, 1797. He was one of eight children whose genealogy dates back to England in the sixteenth century. He was educated in the common schools of the town and worked for his brother in a country store. About 1819, John Coe moved to Center Harbor and purchased his own store in town where he bought, sold, and bartered for articles in common use at that time.

Mr. Coe was united in marriage with Lavinia T. Senter, the pretty daughter of Samuel and Lettice Senter, owners of the Senter House Hotel overlooking Center Harbor Bay. As was the custom of the day, the institution of marriage was “cried in church” by the uncle of the bride, he being Town Clerk at the time. The next step was building their home, and the site selected was the one with the most extended view of the surrounding mountains and the “Great Pond” (Lake Winnipesaukee) as it was called by the early settlers.

Today, the famous house John & Lavinia built is a popular restaurant."

Lavinias Chef · 02-10-2014, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jetskier

Lavinia's has had the reputation of being expensive and providing variable service/quality. As such, the baseline perception of the menu by most will be that it is a bit pricey. In fact this may not be the case based upon portions, food quality and service. The only way to know is to actually try it.

The menu seems a bit limited (perhaps to maintain quality) and it does not have what I would call "signature items". Pulled pork sandwiches, burgers and fish & chips are lower fare dining and readily available in the area. Yet, they comprise a high percentage of the menu offerings.

So, the question is where in the overall ecosystem does Lavinia's want to fit? Personally, I think that there is a dearth of high end options in the lakes region. I am sure that the members of this forum will be happy to give you their feedback. Perhaps, you might solicit suggestions for dishes as a way to test the market. I would suggest that you add a baked brie starter to the menu...that is always hard to find in the lakes region. ...and don't get me started on wines...

Jetskier

At our core, our goal is to source regional ingredients and make fresh, inviting and approachable food. That can take a lot of different directions over time, and we are always open to suggestions for menu items and feedback on how we are doing with our service and food. We might not ever get into a formal solicitation process, but we read this forum and will always listen to a customer idea at the restaurant!

phoenix · 02-10-2014, 09:40 PM

look I am just one diner and only around for four months but would suggest a special night like Corner House does on Monday and Kevin's does where you give an incentive to come. It attracts people when there may not be a buzz other nights just a thought

Barbara · 02-12-2014, 02:20 PM

I think it's a real struggle for high end restaurants to make it in the lakes region, especially in the winter months when the tourists are gone and the snow birds have gone south. My favorite high end restaurant is Mise En Place in Wolfeboro. I wish I could go weekly, but the budget doesn't allow!! It's our go to special occasion treat. If Terry didn't have a successful catering component to her business, I don't know if she would have made it all these years, especially through the winter.

I welcome new everyday kind of restaurants with great food and atmosphere. Infeel lucky that we have a number if them in Wolfeboro.

wickedtravelah · 02-13-2014, 11:50 AM

Is the "new" Lavinias going to cater to high end or casual dining?

It is easy and intimidating to see such an upscale buiilding and just assume its high end... I wouldn't even think of going in just for a burger; on the flip side, putting up "open" or "lunch specials" flags and banners can be tacky.

It would be nice to have a reasonably priced casual place.

BroadHopper · 02-13-2014, 12:08 PM

many upscale restaurants in NH have a cozy bar area that is far from upscale. The Pub menu and drinks should be reasonable for those to stop by when in the area. Now that Lavinia has a 'Pub' menu I am going to make it a point to stop by when I am in the area!

welowin · 02-23-2014, 09:42 AM

I never post on forums like these but had to join and post after my experience at Lavinia’s.

I traveled to the lakes region over the Valentine’s weekend from Pennsylvania. Fortunately, I was able to eat at the new Lavinia’s on Valentine’s Day. Wow! It was a perfect experience. The building is lovely and sophisticated. The staff is friendly. Most importantly, the food was delicious and unforgettable. My husband and I ordered the pork belly side- tender and amazingly addictive. The house salad was perfectly balanced and dressed lightly. The filet main course and chicken confit were delicious and filling. The portions were large and reasonably priced. We ordered drinks and dessert, too. The cheesecake was light and smooth. The crème brule was sinful. Honestly, this was the best meal I have had in a restaurant in years and we eat out at least two times a week. It was so good we went back for Saturday night. We ordered the burger. It was the best burger I have EVER eaten. The meat was juicy and flavorful. The chef knows what he is doing! The best part is that the food is locally sourced and made in house. You can definitely taste it. We cannot wait to visit the area again- solely to visit Lavinia’s!

mhtranger · 02-23-2014, 10:57 AM

In 3.....2......1 Let it rip!!!

upthesaukee · 02-23-2014, 11:10 AM

Glad you had the a good trip over Valentine's and that you enjoyed Lavinia's.

Come back to the area again, and enjoy.

belly_button_biter · 02-23-2014, 11:42 AM

Welcome welowin we look forward to fitire posts
What part of PA? Do you know blacksheep?

blacksheep · 02-23-2014, 02:59 PM

I'm glad they seem to be hitting their stride. There is always a learning curve in any relaunch. My hubby and I are thinking about heading over there tonight for a cocktail and to check out the pub. Welowin - be careful... if you visit NH too much you'll find you like it much better than PA and next thing you know you'll be filling a truck and heading up for good.

I don't think we know each other, and I'm not sure how belly button biter knows I have a connection to PA...b/c I have no idea who belly button biter is...?...but I'm from New Hope (Bucks County) north of Philly. Gotta say, though, after 14 years I think NH is home for good.

jetskier · 02-23-2014, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by blacksheep

I'm glad they seem to be hitting their stride. There is always a learning curve in any relaunch. My hubby and I are thinking about heading over there tonight for a cocktail and to check out the pub. Welowin - be careful... if you visit NH too much you'll find you like it much better than PA and next thing you know you'll be filling a truck and heading up for good.

I don't think we know each other, but I'm from New Hope (Bucks County) north of Philly. Gotta say, though, after 14 years I think NH is home for good.

Please post your impressions. So far there has been one very positive review and one very negative review. Your experience should be interesting.

Jetskier

blacksheep · 02-23-2014, 08:44 PM

Just returned from our first visit to the newly born Lavinia’s. We are happy to report that the lovely atmosphere remains; the old house, with all of her charm; the eclectic décor, the music, vibe, relaxed tone – all intact. We sat at the bar, in the pub, and enjoyed a few appetizers – the scallops were delicious, and the crispy pork belly also very good. Portions were AMPLE! We were stuffed. Drinks were nice, and our glasses were never empty. We were hoping to see Scott, the bartender, but were informed he stays home on Sunday’s during football season (nice, Scooter…), so Amanda took care of us. We spent a lot of time talking to Doug, the general manager. Much of the ‘buzz’ on the streets is inaccurate – the owner is not an electrician, or a plumber… but is actually a successful international business owner from CT, many years spent vacationing in NH, who owns a house on the big lake. He is fortunate enough to be able to offer support to his son, a recent graduate of the CIA – Greystone, who has spent some years busting his chops in some fine, high-volume spots around the globe. This young Executive Chef has talent, drive, enthusiasm and is really interested in hearing what people have to say. He came out, introduced himself, offered us some culinary gifts, and invited us to tour his newly renovated kitchen. It is beautiful! Immaculate, well planned, and we felt completely welcome. One of the highlights of our meal was dessert – maple bread pudding with caramel sauce – which we were told was created by Chef McGuff’s mom. Apparently she comes into the restaurant and makes ALL of the desserts, as well as treats for the staff. Not to diminish the skills of Chef McGuff, but his mamma may give him a run for his money! It was delicious. So, in conclusion, our experience at Lavinia’s was very positive. It was a quiet, off-season night, we spent less than $100, but we were made to feel very welcome, left full, and had a really nice time. Give it a try.

Rusty · 02-23-2014, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by welowin

I never post on forums like these but had to join and post after my experience at Lavinia’s.

I traveled to the lakes region over the Valentine’s weekend from Pennsylvania. Fortunately, I was able to eat at the new Lavinia’s on Valentine’s Day. Wow! It was a perfect experience. The building is lovely and sophisticated. The staff is friendly. Most importantly, the food was delicious and unforgettable. My husband and I ordered the pork belly side- tender and amazingly addictive. The house salad was perfectly balanced and dressed lightly. The filet main course and chicken confit were delicious and filling. The portions were large and reasonably priced. We ordered drinks and dessert, too. The cheesecake was light and smooth. The crème brule was sinful. Honestly, this was the best meal I have had in a restaurant in years and we eat out at least two times a week. It was so good we went back for Saturday night. We ordered the burger. It was the best burger I have EVER eaten. The meat was juicy and flavorful. The chef knows what he is doing! The best part is that the food is locally sourced and made in house. You can definitely taste it. We cannot wait to visit the area again- solely to visit Lavinia’s!

I'm not the brightest bulb on this forum, but HOLY MOLY MAN!!!

There is no way a restaurant can get this much praise...Impossible!!

Below are the accolades that Lavinia’s got from a first time customer...and they can't wait to come back to NH just to eat at the restaurant again.

1. Wow!
2. perfect experience
3. building is lovely and sophisticated
4. staff is friendly
5. food was delicious and unforgettable
6. tender and amazingly addictive
7. salad was perfectly balanced and dressed lightly
8. delicious and filling
9. portions were large and reasonably priced
10. cheesecake was light and smooth
11. crème brule was sinful
12 .Honestly, this was the best meal I have had in a restaurant in years
13. so good we went back for Saturday night
14. best burger I have EVER eaten
15. meat was juicy and flavorful
16. chef knows what he is doing
17. best part is that the food is locally sourced and made in house. You can definitely taste it
18. We cannot wait to visit the area again- solely to visit Lavinia’s

blacksheep · 02-23-2014, 10:05 PM

Oh, and we did confirm that the current menu (short) is temporary and a more extensive, seasonal menu is in the works for spring/summer as is a possible rebrand... Time will tell.

lakelivin · 03-17-2014, 08:04 PM

Went to Lavinias recently to check out the new owners and new chef. The food was good. Unfortunately the appetizer and entree portions were small yet the prices were very high. The mixed drink portions were very small also. The bartender, Scott (great guy), must have been told to serve tiny drinks. Hopefully the new owners will make some quick changes because its a great location.

Newbiesaukee · 05-23-2014, 07:34 AM

We like to dine out, it is probably a large area of our recreational spending. Ambience, service, food, the total experience is what we look for.

The early reviews on Lavinia's have been mixed. The place is lovely and IMO the changes that Luke instituted last year with mixed and more affordable menu choices was a positive. The problem was inconsistency in food preparation.

We went last night for the first time under the new owners. It does appear that at least some of the staff is still there. Overall, we had a very enjoyable experience. The criticisms so far on the Forum have revolved around portion size and price.

The new menu , which is online, is kind of a mix of old and new. There are small plates and entrees and enough choices for most people. There were no specials but it wasn't very busy and it was a Thursday.

The drinks were a good "pour" and were 8 and 9 dollars for premium liquor. The bread was excellent and came with grated cheese and a rosemary olive oil. Only one variety of bread was served.

We are not large portion eaters but the plates seemed full. My wife had the burger. Yes $16 is a lot of money for a burger but it does have a lot of good stuff on it and the fries were great. A lot of folks will shell out $16 for a pasta dish with a higher profit margin and not bat an eye. I had the chicken confit ($25) which was a large leg thigh perfectly prepared with herb spaetzles, rain bow carrots, braised cabbage, smoked onions. A full plate and all excellent. Whoever was in the kitchen knows what he/she is doing.

The desserts looked good and were in the 6-8 dollar range. I had a good espresso.

Kim, our server, was efficient ad knowledgable about the menu.

All in all a very pleasant dining experience. We will return. As far as consistency, that remains to be seen as well as performance when it is busy. A few fish/seafood specials would be nice.

At this point Lavinia's seems a good addition to the higher end dining scene.

I have no association with the restaurant but the early reviews have been confusing and many of the comments have been from folks who have not been to the restaurant.

Greene's Basin Girl · 05-23-2014, 12:54 PM

Our family had lunch at Lavinia's on Mother's Day. They had some special choices and the other choices were off the regular menu. Everyone (7 of us) absolutely loved the food. We had scallops, lobster salad, eggs Benedict, and sausage and gravy biscuits. The prices were similar to prices at other restaurants. After previous comments I was hoping we had chosen the right restaurant. We were not disappointed and Lavinia's will certainly one of our go to places for an evening out.

phoenix · 05-23-2014, 09:28 PM

Thanks GBG we will go when we get up next week. Last summer we loved sitting outside when weather was nice

Barbara · 05-24-2014, 09:29 AM

Lavinia's is featured in an article on Center Harbor dining in the current issue of NH Magazine. It is given an excellent recommendation.

blacksheep · 06-07-2014, 06:41 AM

If you know of anyone in the area looking for work, apparently Lavinia's has a desperate need. Not sure I would have portrayed that in my ad, but to each his own. Change can be hard - seems the crew didn't weather the transition well. Hopefully they will be able to build a new team that can meet the expectations of the summer clientele and do justice to the beautiful location.

http://nh.craigslist.org/fbh/4478115308.html

VitaBene · 06-07-2014, 09:26 PM

I am not sure that the ad is from Lavinias. Who knows what some people may do to discredit another in the anonymous internet world we live in.

SAMIAM · 06-08-2014, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by VitaBene

I am not sure that the ad is from Lavinias. Who knows what some people may do to discredit another in the anonymous internet world we live in.

It does seem a little strange that someone would ferret out an ad and take the time to post a link in order to cast a business in a bad light. Wonder if there is a motive here.

blacksheep · 06-08-2014, 09:51 AM

I have nothing but well wishes for Lavinia's and I am not anonymous to the new owners and chef. I chalked the ad up to youth and inexperience and posted the link here sincerely thinking there might be forum members here who have students home for the summer who are looking for work. It is no secret that they have had some staffing turnover - and that's hardly unusual for the restaurant business, particularly when there is new ownership/leadership. Spread the word to qualified people, if you choose, but please don't allege that I have motives I do not.

Misha888 · 07-13-2014, 05:41 PM

I need to leave Gilford more as I have never heard of your restaurant and we live up here year round.

I just looked at the menu, and noticed no chicken dishes. Yeah, I know boring chicken . . . do you ever include it on your special menu?

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Originally Posted by Lavinias Chef

At our core, our goal is to source regional ingredients and make fresh, inviting and approachable food. That can take a lot of different directions over time, and we are always open to suggestions for menu items and feedback on how we are doing with our service and food. We might not ever get into a formal solicitation process, but we read this forum and will always listen to a customer idea at the restaurant!

Shortstop · 07-16-2014, 09:46 AM

We're weekend boaters in Moultonborough and always enjoy the good local restaurants (Canoe, Lemongrass, Lago's and others), but lately Lavinias has been our 'go to' spot. We usually eat at the bar and enjoy Scott's lake stories and instant service. The menu is small, but I've enjoyed all I've tried. My fav is the Blackened Salmon on risotto, and my wife loves the lobster salad with a side of the smashed baby potatoes. The panzanella (sp??) bread salad is great. I took advantage of the Bourbon, Burger and Beer for $19 last week and that's an amazing deal for a great gourmet burger and drinks. We usually go on Wed or Thurs so the crowds are light. Also recommend the fish taco's as a bargain ($11 I think), but very good. SO, nice job to the new mgmt. team - keep it up. Tom and Deb.

Mink Islander · 08-30-2014, 08:21 AM

My wife and I ate dinner at Lavinia's Thursday and really enjoyed it. The clam chowder was interesting and a little different with a heavier bacon flavor than most, but delicious. The Caesar salad was also a slightly different take on the traditional with tomatoes added and the romaine cut lengthwise. My wife loved the ragout and I had the filet with the pappardelle pasta in Alfredo sauce - also an unusual combination but good. My steak was a perfect medium rare.

I think it's great they have such wide price points across the menu and look forward to trying other things.

We all know its tough to make a restaurant successful, particularly in a highly seasonal location. I wish the owners and staff the best of luck and success!

Pineedles · 08-30-2014, 06:02 PM

I am very surprised that Scott had any stories to tell, other than how he has tried to intimidate diners when they came to him with legitimate complaints. I have no complaints about the food at any of his restaurants, but he is a very rude owner.

upthesaukee · 08-30-2014, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Pineedles

I am very surprised that Scott had any stories to tell, other than how he has tried to intimidate diners when they came to him with legitimate complaints. I have no complaints about the food at any of his restaurants, but he is a very rude owner.

I don't think that Scott O. owns Lavinias, and you have the Scott who is the bartender confused.

Sounds like an oops here.

wifi · 08-30-2014, 06:16 PM

I tend to refer to people I am closely familiar with, only, by their first name. Why do people feel the need to refer to Scott O by his first name, as if they are bosom buddies ? No offense meant to any poster here, its just why are people acting familiar with people they obviously only "know" in passing.

Yeah, its an old concept and I'm very old

Mink Islander · 08-31-2014, 06:27 AM

I've read back to some of the earlier threads to get some context for Pine needle's otherwise non sequitur and nasty comment.

Lost on me why after several polite and constructive reviews by others of the actual restaurant, he lobbed this nasty gram and attempts to drag this thread back down the hole it was in for a while.

I'm all for talking about what we like and don't like about a restaurant (food, atmosphere, and staff) but this is simply a personal attack. One of the reasons I post very infrequently anymore. This is what core members of the forum have allowed and even encouraged the dialogue to become. Sad really.

Now can we bring this back to restaurant reviews?

Pineedles · 08-31-2014, 06:03 PM

You are right upthesaukee I did confuse the two. I am sorry, I just get a bit boiling when I hear the name Scott. Sorry. I have no complaints against Lavinia's.

MI, You are so wrong on so many areas of your post.

Greene's Basin Girl · 09-01-2014, 03:19 AM

A group of us had dinner at Lavinia's on Sunday evening. Unfortunately it was not good. We were so very disappointed because the last time we were there it was great. We never received our bread until we were done with our meal. It wasn't that they forgot- they simply ran out. Three of us ordered the House Pasta and none of us liked it. It was overcooked and salty. My husband had duck. He said it was served lukewarm and the portion was small. We asked for three separate checks. We received three separate checks, but all three of them were the same check. They eventually found the other two checks. Maybe we should have waited until after Labor Day when the crowds subside. It is to bad because we live here year round. These restaurants have to survive on a great deal of local business in the off season. We will not return for a very long time and we live close by.

Orion · 09-01-2014, 02:39 PM

I've had my best dinner in the Lakes Region about a year or so ago at this restaurant and I've also had my worst a few months later. The best was during the week when they weren't too busy and the worst was a Friday night when they were busy. Yes, they ran out of bread on us on that busy night, too. So, bottom line, is they are not good at peak load, but are outstanding otherwise, IMHO.

blacksheep · 09-02-2014, 08:16 PM

Orion, when you ate at Lavinia's a year ago there was a different chef. The restaurant was sold early this past winter, however the name was not changed. The Coe House was in operation for many years, then underwent a 'rebrand' about 3 1/2 years ago. A very experienced chef (25+ years experience, classic culinary education) was hired and the menu and vibe was revamped. After two very successful years the restaurant was sold (early winter of this past year) to the current owner and his son. Despite the confusion on this page, Lavinia's is NOT owned (nor has it ever been owned) by the owner of Canoe. There was a bartender at Lavinia's, Scott, who is wonderful. Not to be confused with the owner of Canoe. (Btw, you can find Scott behind the bar at Lago in Meredith if you're looking for a fantastic cocktail and good stories.) The new owner's son, Brandon McGuff, is young culinary graduate with lots of enthusiasm, but not a ton of experience. He and his dad have spent their first season trying to find their paces and there may have been a few bumps in the road, but don't write them off just yet. A new restaurant deserves a full year to see if they can stand the test. They've still got a few months left to prove they've got the stuff.

Orion · 09-02-2014, 08:29 PM

Blacksheep, I haven't written them off. In fact, I've been back a couple of times since the bad experience and was very satisfied with the whole experience each time. I was just making the point that even a great restaurant can get stressed beyond their capacity limits in high-season. ....and that's why I rarely eat out on weekends in the summer up here.

secondcurve · 09-02-2014, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Greene's Basin Girl

A group of us had dinner at Lavinia's on Sunday evening. Unfortunately it was not good. We were so very disappointed because the last time we were there it was great. We never received our bread until we were done with our meal. It wasn't that they forgot- they simply ran out. Three of us ordered the House Pasta and none of us liked it. It was overcooked and salty. My husband had duck. He said it was served lukewarm and the portion was small. We asked for three separate checks. We received three separate checks, but all three of them were the same check. They eventually found the other two checks. Maybe we should have waited until after Labor Day when the crowds subside. It is to bad because we live here year round. These restaurants have to survive on a great deal of local business in the off season. We will not return for a very long time and we live close by.

3 checks? Really? I'm sure Lavina's staff was equally as unimpressed with your group as you were with them.

Greene's Basin Girl · 09-03-2014, 10:17 AM

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3 checks? Really? I'm sure Lavina's staff was equally as unimpressed with your group as you were with them.

I think you are being quite harsh. Some people in the group have several drinks and some do not have any. Some people have gotten tired of partially paying for drinks when they don't drink. Also some people order 3 courses and other's may order one course. I would rather give my extra cash to a charity. With your attitude I am quite sure some people may not be impressed with you. Of course you may be so wealthy that you always pay the entire bill when you are out to dinner with others. GOOD FOR YOU!

Rusty · 09-03-2014, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Greene's Basin Girl

I think you are being quite harsh. Some people in the group have several drinks and some do not have any. Some people have gotten tired of partially paying for drinks when they don't drink. Also some people order 3 courses and other's may order one course. I would rather give my extra cash to a charity. With your attitude I am quite sure some people may not be impressed with you. Of course you may be so wealthy that you always pay the entire bill when you are out to dinner with others. GOOD FOR YOU!

I always tell the server to give us separate checks before ordering the meals.

Asking after the meals are served really isn't fair to the server.

Happy Gourmand · 09-03-2014, 10:56 AM

Yup, common practice with us too. We go out with 2 or 3 other couples and always ask for separate checks before we order. We've never had an issue with any server at any restaurant we've been to regarding our request. We do it for the same reason GBG does it.

Chaselady · 09-03-2014, 11:11 AM

We do the same. If we have dinner with friends that eat and drink as much as we do we may ask the waiter if it's okay to split the check.
We have rarely been at a restaurant when one person can pick up the check for the table.

VitaBene · 09-03-2014, 12:35 PM

We get one check and throw a card down for each couple. We don't ask for separate checks (but we all drink about the same amount

)

I certainly can understand asking for separate checks before ordering- it is no different than having 3 couples at 3 separate tables at that point.

Regarding Lavinias, it has been hit or miss with us this year. Unfortunately, we have had more recent misses.

ishoot308 · 09-03-2014, 12:43 PM

I guess I have always felt if your friendly enough to sit at the same table and break bread, you should be friendly enough to break up the check...

Dan

blacksheep · 09-03-2014, 01:15 PM

Most restaurants use computerized POS systems that make splitting the check very simple. It's really not, typically, a big deal. Perhaps your server was stressed, new, or both...

Bumble2249 · 09-03-2014, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Greene's Basin Girl

I think you are being quite harsh. Some people in the group have several drinks and some do not have any. Some people have gotten tired of partially paying for drinks when they don't drink. Also some people order 3 courses and other's may order one course. I would rather give my extra cash to a charity. With your attitude I am quite sure some people may not be impressed with you. Of course you may be so wealthy that you always pay the entire bill when you are out to dinner with others. GOOD FOR YOU!

You let the server know that you will need separate checks BEFORE you order. Nothing new there.

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secondcurve · 09-03-2014, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Greene's Basin Girl

I think you are being quite harsh. Some people in the group have several drinks and some do not have any. Some people have gotten tired of partially paying for drinks when they don't drink. Also some people order 3 courses and other's may order one course. I would rather give my extra cash to a charity. With your attitude I am quite sure some people may not be impressed with you. Of course you may be so wealthy that you always pay the entire bill when you are out to dinner with others. GOOD FOR YOU!

I didn't mean to be harsh. You just brought me back to my college days as a waiter at a high-end Boston restaurant. Our waitstaff always lamented the folks who broke up checks. Those who did this were typically demanding and more often than not they were lousy tippers.

My position on splitting checks has nothing to do with being wealthy or not being wealthy. Rather, it has to do with averages. Sometimes splitting a check equally will help you and sometimes it will hurt you but at the end of the day, over the long run, it all equals out so why bother? The next time you go out to a restaurant have a drink, enjoy your meal and dinning partners and stop paying attention to who is ordering desert or an extra drink! I think you'll enjoy yourself more if you follow my advice. Give it a try and let me know.

Denny Crane · 09-03-2014, 08:32 PM

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My position on splitting checks has nothing to do with being wealthy or not being wealthy. Rather, it has to do with averages. Sometimes splitting a check equally will help you and sometimes it will hurt you but at the end of the day, over the long run, it all equals out so why bother? The next time you go out to a restaurant have a drink, enjoy your meal and dinning partners and stop paying attention to who is ordering desert or an extra drink! I think you'll enjoy yourself more if you follow my advice. Give it a try and let me know.

I'm with you.

That deserves a ......."Denny Crane." You must be Alan Shore

Rusty · 09-03-2014, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Denny Crane

I'm with you.

That deserves a ......."Denny Crane." You must be Alan Shore

Hey Denny, is Alan still afraid of clowns?

secondcurve · 09-04-2014, 09:07 AM

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Hey Denny, is Alan still afraid of clowns?

From what I understand he is only afraid of clowns when it is raining out and they are dancing on the trash cans.

4Fun · 09-04-2014, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by secondcurve

I didn't mean to be harsh. You just brought me back to my college days as a waiter at a high-end Boston restaurant. Our waitstaff always lamented the folks who broke up checks. Those who did this were typically demanding and more often than not they were lousy tippers.

My position on splitting checks has nothing to do with being wealthy or not being wealthy. Rather, it has to do with averages. Sometimes splitting a check equally will help you and sometimes it will hurt you but at the end of the day, over the long run, it all equals out so why bother? The next time you go out to a restaurant have a drink, enjoy your meal and dinning partners and stop paying attention to who is ordering desert or an extra drink! I think you'll enjoy yourself more if you follow my advice. Give it a try and let me know.

When we go out with friends who drink more we just make up the difference when it comes time to write in the tip. Our friends will leave more of the required 20%. We don't burden the server with seperate checks.

upthesaukee · 10-23-2014, 07:52 AM

Here is a link to the Article. Nice to see Chef McGuff giving back to students who want to pursue a career as a chef / restaurant owner.

http://thecitizen.villagesoup.com/p/...aurant/1259073

02-10-2014, 03:18 PM	#3
Pineedles Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Moultonborough & CT Posts: 2,545 Thanks: 1,072 Thanked 668 Times in 367 Posts	Coe House Just a little reminder of the historical significance of Lavinia's and it's namesake from the Lake Winnipesaukee Historical Society's archives. "John Coe was born in Durham, New Hampshire on November 3, 1797. He was one of eight children whose genealogy dates back to England in the sixteenth century. He was educated in the common schools of the town and worked for his brother in a country store. About 1819, John Coe moved to Center Harbor and purchased his own store in town where he bought, sold, and bartered for articles in common use at that time. Mr. Coe was united in marriage with Lavinia T. Senter, the pretty daughter of Samuel and Lettice Senter, owners of the Senter House Hotel overlooking Center Harbor Bay. As was the custom of the day, the institution of marriage was “cried in church” by the uncle of the bride, he being Town Clerk at the time. The next step was building their home, and the site selected was the one with the most extended view of the surrounding mountains and the “Great Pond” (Lake Winnipesaukee) as it was called by the early settlers. Today, the famous house John & Lavinia built is a popular restaurant."

02-10-2014, 09:40 PM	#5
phoenix Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: phoenix and moultonboro Posts: 1,553 Thanks: 61 Thanked 275 Times in 193 Posts	look I am just one diner and only around for four months but would suggest a special night like Corner House does on Monday and Kevin's does where you give an incentive to come. It attracts people when there may not be a buzz other nights just a thought __________________ it's tough to make predictions specially about the future

02-13-2014, 12:08 PM	#8
BroadHopper Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Laconia NH Posts: 5,576 Thanks: 3,214 Thanked 1,103 Times in 794 Posts	Upscale Restuarants. many upscale restaurants in NH have a cozy bar area that is far from upscale. The Pub menu and drinks should be reasonable for those to stop by when in the area. Now that Lavinia has a 'Pub' menu I am going to make it a point to stop by when I am in the area! __________________ Someday may never be an actual day.

02-23-2014, 09:42 AM	#9
welowin Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 1 Post	The new Lavinia's is amazing! I never post on forums like these but had to join and post after my experience at Lavinia’s. I traveled to the lakes region over the Valentine’s weekend from Pennsylvania. Fortunately, I was able to eat at the new Lavinia’s on Valentine’s Day. Wow! It was a perfect experience. The building is lovely and sophisticated. The staff is friendly. Most importantly, the food was delicious and unforgettable. My husband and I ordered the pork belly side- tender and amazingly addictive. The house salad was perfectly balanced and dressed lightly. The filet main course and chicken confit were delicious and filling. The portions were large and reasonably priced. We ordered drinks and dessert, too. The cheesecake was light and smooth. The crème brule was sinful. Honestly, this was the best meal I have had in a restaurant in years and we eat out at least two times a week. It was so good we went back for Saturday night. We ordered the burger. It was the best burger I have EVER eaten. The meat was juicy and flavorful. The chef knows what he is doing! The best part is that the food is locally sourced and made in house. You can definitely taste it. We cannot wait to visit the area again- solely to visit Lavinia’s!

02-23-2014, 11:10 AM	#11
upthesaukee Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Alton Bay Posts: 5,599 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 2,458 Thanked 1,981 Times in 1,082 Posts	Welcome to the forum, welowin... Glad you had the a good trip over Valentine's and that you enjoyed Lavinia's. Come back to the area again, and enjoy. __________________ I Live Here... I am always UPTHESAUKEE !!!!

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02-12-2014, 02:20 PM	#6
Barbara Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 251 Thanks: 48 Thanked 113 Times in 64 Posts	I think it's a real struggle for high end restaurants to make it in the lakes region, especially in the winter months when the tourists are gone and the snow birds have gone south. My favorite high end restaurant is Mise En Place in Wolfeboro. I wish I could go weekly, but the budget doesn't allow!! It's our go to special occasion treat. If Terry didn't have a successful catering component to her business, I don't know if she would have made it all these years, especially through the winter. I welcome new everyday kind of restaurants with great food and atmosphere. Infeel lucky that we have a number if them in Wolfeboro.

02-13-2014, 11:50 AM	#7
wickedtravelah Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Lakes Region (NH) Posts: 70 Thanks: 58 Thanked 13 Times in 11 Posts	Is the "new" Lavinias going to cater to high end or casual dining? It is easy and intimidating to see such an upscale buiilding and just assume its high end... I wouldn't even think of going in just for a burger; on the flip side, putting up "open" or "lunch specials" flags and banners can be tacky. It would be nice to have a reasonably priced casual place.

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02-23-2014, 10:57 AM	#10
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02-23-2014, 11:42 AM	#12
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02-23-2014, 02:59 PM	#13
blacksheep Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Plymouth, NH Posts: 63 Thanks: 98 Thanked 47 Times in 25 Posts	I'm glad they seem to be hitting their stride. There is always a learning curve in any relaunch. My hubby and I are thinking about heading over there tonight for a cocktail and to check out the pub. Welowin - be careful... if you visit NH too much you'll find you like it much better than PA and next thing you know you'll be filling a truck and heading up for good. I don't think we know each other, and I'm not sure how belly button biter knows I have a connection to PA...b/c I have no idea who belly button biter is...?...but I'm from New Hope (Bucks County) north of Philly. Gotta say, though, after 14 years I think NH is home for good. Last edited by blacksheep; 02-24-2014 at 07:47 PM.

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02-23-2014, 08:44 PM	#15
blacksheep Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Plymouth, NH Posts: 63 Thanks: 98 Thanked 47 Times in 25 Posts	Just returned from our first visit to the newly born Lavinia’s. We are happy to report that the lovely atmosphere remains; the old house, with all of her charm; the eclectic décor, the music, vibe, relaxed tone – all intact. We sat at the bar, in the pub, and enjoyed a few appetizers – the scallops were delicious, and the crispy pork belly also very good. Portions were AMPLE! We were stuffed. Drinks were nice, and our glasses were never empty. We were hoping to see Scott, the bartender, but were informed he stays home on Sunday’s during football season (nice, Scooter…), so Amanda took care of us. We spent a lot of time talking to Doug, the general manager. Much of the ‘buzz’ on the streets is inaccurate – the owner is not an electrician, or a plumber… but is actually a successful international business owner from CT, many years spent vacationing in NH, who owns a house on the big lake. He is fortunate enough to be able to offer support to his son, a recent graduate of the CIA – Greystone, who has spent some years busting his chops in some fine, high-volume spots around the globe. This young Executive Chef has talent, drive, enthusiasm and is really interested in hearing what people have to say. He came out, introduced himself, offered us some culinary gifts, and invited us to tour his newly renovated kitchen. It is beautiful! Immaculate, well planned, and we felt completely welcome. One of the highlights of our meal was dessert – maple bread pudding with caramel sauce – which we were told was created by Chef McGuff’s mom. Apparently she comes into the restaurant and makes ALL of the desserts, as well as treats for the staff. Not to diminish the skills of Chef McGuff, but his mamma may give him a run for his money! It was delicious. So, in conclusion, our experience at Lavinia’s was very positive. It was a quiet, off-season night, we spent less than $100, but we were made to feel very welcome, left full, and had a really nice time. Give it a try.

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02-23-2014, 10:05 PM	#17
blacksheep Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Plymouth, NH Posts: 63 Thanks: 98 Thanked 47 Times in 25 Posts	Oh, and we did confirm that the current menu (short) is temporary and a more extensive, seasonal menu is in the works for spring/summer as is a possible rebrand... Time will tell.

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03-17-2014, 08:04 PM	#18
lakelivin Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	lakelivin Went to Lavinias recently to check out the new owners and new chef. The food was good. Unfortunately the appetizer and entree portions were small yet the prices were very high. The mixed drink portions were very small also. The bartender, Scott (great guy), must have been told to serve tiny drinks. Hopefully the new owners will make some quick changes because its a great location.

05-23-2014, 07:34 AM	#19
Newbiesaukee Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Coral Gables, winter; Long Island, summer Posts: 1,353 Thanks: 947 Thanked 573 Times in 298 Posts	We like to dine out, it is probably a large area of our recreational spending. Ambience, service, food, the total experience is what we look for. The early reviews on Lavinia's have been mixed. The place is lovely and IMO the changes that Luke instituted last year with mixed and more affordable menu choices was a positive. The problem was inconsistency in food preparation. We went last night for the first time under the new owners. It does appear that at least some of the staff is still there. Overall, we had a very enjoyable experience. The criticisms so far on the Forum have revolved around portion size and price. The new menu , which is online, is kind of a mix of old and new. There are small plates and entrees and enough choices for most people. There were no specials but it wasn't very busy and it was a Thursday. The drinks were a good "pour" and were 8 and 9 dollars for premium liquor. The bread was excellent and came with grated cheese and a rosemary olive oil. Only one variety of bread was served. We are not large portion eaters but the plates seemed full. My wife had the burger. Yes $16 is a lot of money for a burger but it does have a lot of good stuff on it and the fries were great. A lot of folks will shell out $16 for a pasta dish with a higher profit margin and not bat an eye. I had the chicken confit ($25) which was a large leg thigh perfectly prepared with herb spaetzles, rain bow carrots, braised cabbage, smoked onions. A full plate and all excellent. Whoever was in the kitchen knows what he/she is doing. The desserts looked good and were in the 6-8 dollar range. I had a good espresso. Kim, our server, was efficient ad knowledgable about the menu. All in all a very pleasant dining experience. We will return. As far as consistency, that remains to be seen as well as performance when it is busy. A few fish/seafood specials would be nice. At this point Lavinia's seems a good addition to the higher end dining scene. I have no association with the restaurant but the early reviews have been confusing and many of the comments have been from folks who have not been to the restaurant. __________________ "You're only young once, but you can be immature forever."

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05-23-2014, 12:54 PM	#20
Greene's Basin Girl Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Moultonborough, NH Posts: 1,515 Thanks: 394 Thanked 527 Times in 269 Posts	Our family had lunch at Lavinia's on Mother's Day. They had some special choices and the other choices were off the regular menu. Everyone (7 of us) absolutely loved the food. We had scallops, lobster salad, eggs Benedict, and sausage and gravy biscuits. The prices were similar to prices at other restaurants. After previous comments I was hoping we had chosen the right restaurant. We were not disappointed and Lavinia's will certainly one of our go to places for an evening out.

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05-23-2014, 09:28 PM	#21
phoenix Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: phoenix and moultonboro Posts: 1,553 Thanks: 61 Thanked 275 Times in 193 Posts	Thanks GBG we will go when we get up next week. Last summer we loved sitting outside when weather was nice __________________ it's tough to make predictions specially about the future

05-24-2014, 09:29 AM	#22
Barbara Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 251 Thanks: 48 Thanked 113 Times in 64 Posts	Lavinia's is featured in an article on Center Harbor dining in the current issue of NH Magazine. It is given an excellent recommendation.

06-07-2014, 06:41 AM	#23
blacksheep Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Plymouth, NH Posts: 63 Thanks: 98 Thanked 47 Times in 25 Posts	If you know of anyone in the area looking for work, apparently Lavinia's has a desperate need. Not sure I would have portrayed that in my ad, but to each his own. Change can be hard - seems the crew didn't weather the transition well. Hopefully they will be able to build a new team that can meet the expectations of the summer clientele and do justice to the beautiful location. http://nh.craigslist.org/fbh/4478115308.html

06-07-2014, 09:26 PM	#24
VitaBene Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 3,587 Thanks: 1,623 Thanked 1,639 Times in 843 Posts	I am not sure that the ad is from Lavinias. Who knows what some people may do to discredit another in the anonymous internet world we live in.

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06-08-2014, 09:51 AM	#26
blacksheep Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Plymouth, NH Posts: 63 Thanks: 98 Thanked 47 Times in 25 Posts	I have nothing but well wishes for Lavinia's and I am not anonymous to the new owners and chef. I chalked the ad up to youth and inexperience and posted the link here sincerely thinking there might be forum members here who have students home for the summer who are looking for work. It is no secret that they have had some staffing turnover - and that's hardly unusual for the restaurant business, particularly when there is new ownership/leadership. Spread the word to qualified people, if you choose, but please don't allege that I have motives I do not.

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07-16-2014, 09:46 AM	#28
Shortstop Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 25 Thanks: 5 Thanked 14 Times in 5 Posts	A Big Fan. We're weekend boaters in Moultonborough and always enjoy the good local restaurants (Canoe, Lemongrass, Lago's and others), but lately Lavinias has been our 'go to' spot. We usually eat at the bar and enjoy Scott's lake stories and instant service. The menu is small, but I've enjoyed all I've tried. My fav is the Blackened Salmon on risotto, and my wife loves the lobster salad with a side of the smashed baby potatoes. The panzanella (sp??) bread salad is great. I took advantage of the Bourbon, Burger and Beer for $19 last week and that's an amazing deal for a great gourmet burger and drinks. We usually go on Wed or Thurs so the crowds are light. Also recommend the fish taco's as a bargain ($11 I think), but very good. SO, nice job to the new mgmt. team - keep it up. Tom and Deb.