Lavinia's

[Lavinias Chef]

Originally Posted by jetskier

Lavinia's has had the reputation of being expensive and providing variable service/quality. As such, the baseline perception of the menu by most will be that it is a bit pricey. In fact this may not be the case based upon portions, food quality and service. The only way to know is to actually try it.

The menu seems a bit limited (perhaps to maintain quality) and it does not have what I would call "signature items". Pulled pork sandwiches, burgers and fish & chips are lower fare dining and readily available in the area. Yet, they comprise a high percentage of the menu offerings.

So, the question is where in the overall ecosystem does Lavinia's want to fit? Personally, I think that there is a dearth of high end options in the lakes region. I am sure that the members of this forum will be happy to give you their feedback. Perhaps, you might solicit suggestions for dishes as a way to test the market. I would suggest that you add a baked brie starter to the menu...that is always hard to find in the lakes region. ...and don't get me started on wines...

Jetskier

At our core, our goal is to source regional ingredients and make fresh, inviting and approachable food. That can take a lot of different directions over time, and we are always open to suggestions for menu items and feedback on how we are doing with our service and food. We might not ever get into a formal solicitation process, but we read this forum and will always listen to a customer idea at the restaurant!

[phoenix]

look I am just one diner and only around for four months but would suggest a special night like Corner House does on Monday and Kevin's does where you give an incentive to come. It attracts people when there may not be a buzz other nights just a thought

[Barbara]

I think it's a real struggle for high end restaurants to make it in the lakes region, especially in the winter months when the tourists are gone and the snow birds have gone south. My favorite high end restaurant is Mise En Place in Wolfeboro. I wish I could go weekly, but the budget doesn't allow!! It's our go to special occasion treat. If Terry didn't have a successful catering component to her business, I don't know if she would have made it all these years, especially through the winter.

I welcome new everyday kind of restaurants with great food and atmosphere. Infeel lucky that we have a number if them in Wolfeboro.

[wickedtravelah]

Is the "new" Lavinias going to cater to high end or casual dining?

It is easy and intimidating to see such an upscale buiilding and just assume its high end... I wouldn't even think of going in just for a burger; on the flip side, putting up "open" or "lunch specials" flags and banners can be tacky.

It would be nice to have a reasonably priced casual place.

[BroadHopper]

many upscale restaurants in NH have a cozy bar area that is far from upscale. The Pub menu and drinks should be reasonable for those to stop by when in the area. Now that Lavinia has a 'Pub' menu I am going to make it a point to stop by when I am in the area!

[sky's]

Originally Posted by phoenix

In reality all I care about is good food at reasonable prices. I don't ever remember checking a chefs diploma before I ate at a restaurant

nice could not agree more

[belly_button_biter]

Originally Posted by Bumble2249

Just try it again. I'm sure the additional visit will be worth the $100. Just my opinion.

Three of us took your advice and now have little trust in your opinion.

To start the pork belly sliders were only about 4oz total and way over priced at $12. Wild salmon lacked color for "wild" and was way over cooked and over priced for such small portion. Short ribs were tasty nut theere was only one on the plate. Ouch again! Skirt steak was tough as shoe leather and also over priced.

The wine was $35 and the total came to $176 before tip for mediocre service.

[Rusty]

Originally Posted by belly_button_biter

Three of us took your advice and now have little trust in your opinion.

To start the pork belly sliders were only about 4oz total and way over priced at $12. Wild salmon lacked color for "wild" and was way over cooked and over priced for such small portion. Short ribs were tasty nut theere was only one on the plate. Ouch again! Skirt steak was tough as shoe leather and also over priced.

The wine was $35 and the total came to $176 before tip for mediocre service.

Just try it again. I'm sure the additional visit will be worth the $176. Just my opinion.

[NoBozo]

Originally Posted by Rusty

Just try it again. I'm sure the additional visit will be worth the $176. Just my opinion.

Encouragement: On your next visit...Rusty will pick up the Tab... NB

[Rusty]

Originally Posted by NoBozo

Encouragement: Rusty will pick up the Tab... NB

I couldn't afford the tip on $176.

[WakeboardMom]

Originally Posted by belly_button_biter

Three of us took your advice and now have little trust in your opinion.

To start the pork belly sliders were only about 4oz total and way over priced at $12. Wild salmon lacked color for "wild" and was way over cooked and over priced for such small portion. Short ribs were tasty nut theere was only one on the plate. Ouch again! Skirt steak was tough as shoe leather and also over priced.

The wine was $35 and the total came to $176 before tip for mediocre service.

3 meals, 1 app, 1 bottle of wine...$176? Drinks or dessert?

[Bumble2249]

Hey guys it was my opinion... You ever have an opinion that wasn't necessarily someone else's? Thats why I thought the word exists in the first place!? I believe I said "opinion" not "guarantee" I happen to like the place. The food is great! Unfortunately there is and always will be restaurants that don't necessarily "fit" everybody's budget. ;(


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[belly_button_biter]

Originally Posted by WakeboardMom

3 meals, 1 app, 1 bottle of wine...$176? Drinks or dessert?

Macallan 12 for $15, a couple coffees for $6, side salad $9, In my opinion the
bread pudding was the only reasonably priced item for $6

[jetskier]

I would say that $176 for a complete meal for 3 is not out of the domain of reason for a higher end restaurant especially with wine and dessert. When my wife an I go out the bill ranges from $50 to over $100...but...

The posting from belly_button_biter of small portions, low quality and mediocre service is pretty damning. I would love to see Lavinia's thrive; great location and charming building. However, the formula seems off the mark. I would expect that with a limited menu and fairly simple dishes that value/quality would be utmost. I am hoping that this is an aberration...it would be appreciated if anyone else trying Lavinia'a would post their impressions. I am losing my zeal to drive up from Laconia to try them without some sort of positive posting.

Jetskier

[Rusty]

Originally Posted by Bumble2249

Hey guys it was my opinion... You ever have an opinion that wasn't necessarily someone else's? Thats why I thought the word exists in the first place!? I believe I said "opinion" not "guarantee" I happen to like the place. The food is great! Unfortunately there is and always will be restaurants that don't necessarily "fit" everybody's budget. ;(


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You said: "I happen to like the place. The food is great!"

What did you have when you went there?

[blacksheep]

I'm wondering if this limited menu is a temporary menu, until the new chef puts out his spring/summer fare? Additionally, the rumor we heard is that there is a new name coming...so, maybe they want to wait for signage, logo, etc. before putting out a completely new menu? Either way, I hope they iron out their quality issues asap. Thinking we'll give them a little time to get into their groove, and then we'll give it a try.

[diz]

Originally Posted by blacksheep

I'm wondering if this limited menu is a temporary menu, until the new chef puts out his spring/summer fare? Additionally, the rumor we heard is that there is a new name coming...so, maybe they want to wait for signage, logo, etc. before putting out a completely new menu? Either way, I hope they iron out their quality issues asap. Thinking we'll give them a little time to get into their groove, and then we'll give it a try.

We ate there Saturday night. The waitress told us the menu was temporary and would be replaced soon.

[jetskier]

Originally Posted by diz

We ate there Saturday night. The waitress told us the menu was temporary and would be replaced soon.

Can you share your experience? Inquiring minds want to know.

Jetskier

[Bumble2249]

Originally Posted by Rusty

You said: "I happen to like the place. The food is great!"



What did you have when you went there?

Rusty, my wife had the filet and I had the confit. Both very good. I've been there by myself once and I had the burger which was good as well. However I'd expect to pay the $16 for a USDA Prime burger not your regular burger. The atmosphere is great though and it always has been.


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[Bumble2249]

Originally Posted by Rusty

You said: "I happen to like the place. The food is great!"



What did you have when you went there?

Rusty have you been there? Were you one of the three that went with belly button guy?


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[Rusty]

Originally Posted by Bumble2249

Rusty have you been there? Were you one of the three that went with belly button guy?


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Nope, never been there. I'm sure I'll give it a try someday.

[VitaBene]

Friends went the other night and raved about the fresh pasta and filet dish.

[welowin]

I never post on forums like these but had to join and post after my experience at Lavinia’s.

I traveled to the lakes region over the Valentine’s weekend from Pennsylvania. Fortunately, I was able to eat at the new Lavinia’s on Valentine’s Day. Wow! It was a perfect experience. The building is lovely and sophisticated. The staff is friendly. Most importantly, the food was delicious and unforgettable. My husband and I ordered the pork belly side- tender and amazingly addictive. The house salad was perfectly balanced and dressed lightly. The filet main course and chicken confit were delicious and filling. The portions were large and reasonably priced. We ordered drinks and dessert, too. The cheesecake was light and smooth. The crème brule was sinful. Honestly, this was the best meal I have had in a restaurant in years and we eat out at least two times a week. It was so good we went back for Saturday night. We ordered the burger. It was the best burger I have EVER eaten. The meat was juicy and flavorful. The chef knows what he is doing! The best part is that the food is locally sourced and made in house. You can definitely taste it. We cannot wait to visit the area again- solely to visit Lavinia’s!

[mhtranger]

In 3.....2......1 Let it rip!!!

[upthesaukee]

Glad you had the a good trip over Valentine's and that you enjoyed Lavinia's.

Come back to the area again, and enjoy.

[belly_button_biter]

Welcome welowin we look forward to fitire posts
What part of PA? Do you know blacksheep?

[blacksheep]

I'm glad they seem to be hitting their stride. There is always a learning curve in any relaunch. My hubby and I are thinking about heading over there tonight for a cocktail and to check out the pub. Welowin - be careful... if you visit NH too much you'll find you like it much better than PA and next thing you know you'll be filling a truck and heading up for good. I don't think we know each other, and I'm not sure how belly button biter knows I have a connection to PA...b/c I have no idea who belly button biter is...?...but I'm from New Hope (Bucks County) north of Philly. Gotta say, though, after 14 years I think NH is home for good.

[jetskier]

Originally Posted by blacksheep

I'm glad they seem to be hitting their stride. There is always a learning curve in any relaunch. My hubby and I are thinking about heading over there tonight for a cocktail and to check out the pub. Welowin - be careful... if you visit NH too much you'll find you like it much better than PA and next thing you know you'll be filling a truck and heading up for good. I don't think we know each other, but I'm from New Hope (Bucks County) north of Philly. Gotta say, though, after 14 years I think NH is home for good.

Please post your impressions. So far there has been one very positive review and one very negative review. Your experience should be interesting.

Jetskier

[blacksheep]

Just returned from our first visit to the newly born Lavinia’s. We are happy to report that the lovely atmosphere remains; the old house, with all of her charm; the eclectic décor, the music, vibe, relaxed tone – all intact. We sat at the bar, in the pub, and enjoyed a few appetizers – the scallops were delicious, and the crispy pork belly also very good. Portions were AMPLE! We were stuffed. Drinks were nice, and our glasses were never empty. We were hoping to see Scott, the bartender, but were informed he stays home on Sunday’s during football season (nice, Scooter…), so Amanda took care of us. We spent a lot of time talking to Doug, the general manager. Much of the ‘buzz’ on the streets is inaccurate – the owner is not an electrician, or a plumber… but is actually a successful international business owner from CT, many years spent vacationing in NH, who owns a house on the big lake. He is fortunate enough to be able to offer support to his son, a recent graduate of the CIA – Greystone, who has spent some years busting his chops in some fine, high-volume spots around the globe. This young Executive Chef has talent, drive, enthusiasm and is really interested in hearing what people have to say. He came out, introduced himself, offered us some culinary gifts, and invited us to tour his newly renovated kitchen. It is beautiful! Immaculate, well planned, and we felt completely welcome. One of the highlights of our meal was dessert – maple bread pudding with caramel sauce – which we were told was created by Chef McGuff’s mom. Apparently she comes into the restaurant and makes ALL of the desserts, as well as treats for the staff. Not to diminish the skills of Chef McGuff, but his mamma may give him a run for his money! It was delicious. So, in conclusion, our experience at Lavinia’s was very positive. It was a quiet, off-season night, we spent less than $100, but we were made to feel very welcome, left full, and had a really nice time. Give it a try.

[Rusty]

Originally Posted by welowin

I never post on forums like these but had to join and post after my experience at Lavinia’s.

I traveled to the lakes region over the Valentine’s weekend from Pennsylvania. Fortunately, I was able to eat at the new Lavinia’s on Valentine’s Day. Wow! It was a perfect experience. The building is lovely and sophisticated. The staff is friendly. Most importantly, the food was delicious and unforgettable. My husband and I ordered the pork belly side- tender and amazingly addictive. The house salad was perfectly balanced and dressed lightly. The filet main course and chicken confit were delicious and filling. The portions were large and reasonably priced. We ordered drinks and dessert, too. The cheesecake was light and smooth. The crème brule was sinful. Honestly, this was the best meal I have had in a restaurant in years and we eat out at least two times a week. It was so good we went back for Saturday night. We ordered the burger. It was the best burger I have EVER eaten. The meat was juicy and flavorful. The chef knows what he is doing! The best part is that the food is locally sourced and made in house. You can definitely taste it. We cannot wait to visit the area again- solely to visit Lavinia’s!

I'm not the brightest bulb on this forum, but HOLY MOLY MAN!!!

There is no way a restaurant can get this much praise...Impossible!!

Below are the accolades that Lavinia’s got from a first time customer...and they can't wait to come back to NH just to eat at the restaurant again.

1. Wow!
2. perfect experience
3. building is lovely and sophisticated
4. staff is friendly
5. food was delicious and unforgettable
6. tender and amazingly addictive
7. salad was perfectly balanced and dressed lightly
8. delicious and filling
9. portions were large and reasonably priced
10. cheesecake was light and smooth
11. crème brule was sinful
12 .Honestly, this was the best meal I have had in a restaurant in years
13. so good we went back for Saturday night
14. best burger I have EVER eaten
15. meat was juicy and flavorful
16. chef knows what he is doing
17. best part is that the food is locally sourced and made in house. You can definitely taste it
18. We cannot wait to visit the area again- solely to visit Lavinia’s

[blacksheep]

Oh, and we did confirm that the current menu (short) is temporary and a more extensive, seasonal menu is in the works for spring/summer as is a possible rebrand... Time will tell.

[belly_button_biter]

Originally Posted by jetskier

I would say that $176 for a complete meal for 3 is not out of the domain of reason for a higher end restaurant especially with wine and dessert. When my wife an I go out the bill ranges from $50 to over $100...but...
Jetskier

I agree $176 not unreasonable for a decent meal for three. If i were to count on one hand the number of LR restaurants that can deliver a worthy experience I'd have fingers left over. I once spent $450 on dinner for 3 (drank a lot of wine) at Surf in Portsmouth. Left a generous tip and wrote a rave review.

I would never expect to pay $176 for an experiance reminesent of a junior college culinary project.

[Sue Doe-Nym]

We decided to try the new Lavinia's tonight. The ambiance was wonderful, but the menu was limited and the prices quite high, we thought. I was not in the mood for a burger, a pork sandwich, or fish and chips. A yummy seafood casserole would have hit the spot. The place is lovely, but I think they need to work on a more varied and affordable menu. A $16 burger is a bit much.....
we do, however, wish the new folks luck. We'll try it again when the ground thaws.

[Bumble2249]

I had a great meal at Lavinias last week. It was a special.. Triple B. Burger, beer and bourbon, $19! Once again the burger was great!


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[lakelivin]

Went to Lavinias recently to check out the new owners and new chef. The food was good. Unfortunately the appetizer and entree portions were small yet the prices were very high. The mixed drink portions were very small also. The bartender, Scott (great guy), must have been told to serve tiny drinks. Hopefully the new owners will make some quick changes because its a great location.

[Newbiesaukee]

We like to dine out, it is probably a large area of our recreational spending. Ambience, service, food, the total experience is what we look for.

The early reviews on Lavinia's have been mixed. The place is lovely and IMO the changes that Luke instituted last year with mixed and more affordable menu choices was a positive. The problem was inconsistency in food preparation.

We went last night for the first time under the new owners. It does appear that at least some of the staff is still there. Overall, we had a very enjoyable experience. The criticisms so far on the Forum have revolved around portion size and price.

The new menu , which is online, is kind of a mix of old and new. There are small plates and entrees and enough choices for most people. There were no specials but it wasn't very busy and it was a Thursday.

The drinks were a good "pour" and were 8 and 9 dollars for premium liquor. The bread was excellent and came with grated cheese and a rosemary olive oil. Only one variety of bread was served.

We are not large portion eaters but the plates seemed full. My wife had the burger. Yes $16 is a lot of money for a burger but it does have a lot of good stuff on it and the fries were great. A lot of folks will shell out $16 for a pasta dish with a higher profit margin and not bat an eye. I had the chicken confit ($25) which was a large leg thigh perfectly prepared with herb spaetzles, rain bow carrots, braised cabbage, smoked onions. A full plate and all excellent. Whoever was in the kitchen knows what he/she is doing.

The desserts looked good and were in the 6-8 dollar range. I had a good espresso.

Kim, our server, was efficient ad knowledgable about the menu.

All in all a very pleasant dining experience. We will return. As far as consistency, that remains to be seen as well as performance when it is busy. A few fish/seafood specials would be nice.

At this point Lavinia's seems a good addition to the higher end dining scene.

I have no association with the restaurant but the early reviews have been confusing and many of the comments have been from folks who have not been to the restaurant.

[Greene's Basin Girl]

Our family had lunch at Lavinia's on Mother's Day. They had some special choices and the other choices were off the regular menu. Everyone (7 of us) absolutely loved the food. We had scallops, lobster salad, eggs Benedict, and sausage and gravy biscuits. The prices were similar to prices at other restaurants. After previous comments I was hoping we had chosen the right restaurant. We were not disappointed and Lavinia's will certainly one of our go to places for an evening out.

[phoenix]

Thanks GBG we will go when we get up next week. Last summer we loved sitting outside when weather was nice

[Barbara]

Lavinia's is featured in an article on Center Harbor dining in the current issue of NH Magazine. It is given an excellent recommendation.

[blacksheep]

If you know of anyone in the area looking for work, apparently Lavinia's has a desperate need. Not sure I would have portrayed that in my ad, but to each his own. Change can be hard - seems the crew didn't weather the transition well. Hopefully they will be able to build a new team that can meet the expectations of the summer clientele and do justice to the beautiful location.

http://nh.craigslist.org/fbh/4478115308.html

[VitaBene]

I am not sure that the ad is from Lavinias. Who knows what some people may do to discredit another in the anonymous internet world we live in.

[SAMIAM]

Originally Posted by VitaBene

I am not sure that the ad is from Lavinias. Who knows what some people may do to discredit another in the anonymous internet world we live in.

It does seem a little strange that someone would ferret out an ad and take the time to post a link in order to cast a business in a bad light. Wonder if there is a motive here.

[blacksheep]

I have nothing but well wishes for Lavinia's and I am not anonymous to the new owners and chef. I chalked the ad up to youth and inexperience and posted the link here sincerely thinking there might be forum members here who have students home for the summer who are looking for work. It is no secret that they have had some staffing turnover - and that's hardly unusual for the restaurant business, particularly when there is new ownership/leadership. Spread the word to qualified people, if you choose, but please don't allege that I have motives I do not.

[Bumble2249]

Seriously? A business can't place a post on Craiglist and have someone that might be a member of this forum, see it, and then go ahead and try to help out by spreading the message, without being accused of making up a story for some personal gain??!! Really?


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[VitaBene]

Originally Posted by Bumble2249

Seriously? A business can't place a post on Craiglist and have someone that might be a member of this forum, see it, and then go ahead and try to help out by spreading the message, without being accused of making up a story for some personal gain??!! Really?


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To be clear, I did not mean to imply that anyone on this forum did anything malicious.

My comment about the anonymity of the internet stands. I doubted that the owners of a restaurant would post a classified advertisement worded as it was.

[belly_button_biter]

Originally Posted by Bumble2249

Seriously? A business can't place a post on Craiglist and have someone that might be a member of this forum, see it, and then go ahead and try to help out by spreading the message, without being accused of making up a story for some personal gain??!! Really?


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You and blacksheep seem to support each other in defence of some and attacks on others very often.

[blacksheep]

My gosh... I don't know what you mean, or are implying, with your comment belly-button-biter, but I can assure you - I am the author of my own opinions and perspectives, I'm not working in cahoots with anyone, and I was just trying to spread the word - to people who might actually know people who are looking - that a restaurant I care about is looking for help. Good lord, this forum can be utterly ridiculous sometimes...

[wifi]

Can't we all take a deep breath. The summer has barely begun.

This isn't the only thread with, ermmmmm.... contentiousness


Breathe: in..... out......in......out....

[Bumble2249]

Omg Blacksheep......they've found us out! I must leave you now. Good luck on your mission..... If you choose to accept it...... )))


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[Newbiesaukee]

I think Kayleigh liked it.

I have been there several times since my first report. The menu has changed a bit as has the staff; but I do believe they have a potentially winning combination. They are clearly making an effort to do it right. The best indicator is that the dishes have been consistent which has been a bugaboo in the last several incarnations.

It is a lovely restaurant and a good place to take guests, particularly as the Woodshed is no longer an option. Not inexpensive but a good value for a high end restaurant with a number of lower end priced options.

[Misha888]

I need to leave Gilford more as I have never heard of your restaurant and we live up here year round.

I just looked at the menu, and noticed no chicken dishes. Yeah, I know boring chicken . . . do you ever include it on your special menu?

Originally Posted by Lavinias Chef

At our core, our goal is to source regional ingredients and make fresh, inviting and approachable food. That can take a lot of different directions over time, and we are always open to suggestions for menu items and feedback on how we are doing with our service and food. We might not ever get into a formal solicitation process, but we read this forum and will always listen to a customer idea at the restaurant!

[Shortstop]

We're weekend boaters in Moultonborough and always enjoy the good local restaurants (Canoe, Lemongrass, Lago's and others), but lately Lavinias has been our 'go to' spot. We usually eat at the bar and enjoy Scott's lake stories and instant service. The menu is small, but I've enjoyed all I've tried. My fav is the Blackened Salmon on risotto, and my wife loves the lobster salad with a side of the smashed baby potatoes. The panzanella (sp??) bread salad is great. I took advantage of the Bourbon, Burger and Beer for $19 last week and that's an amazing deal for a great gourmet burger and drinks. We usually go on Wed or Thurs so the crowds are light. Also recommend the fish taco's as a bargain ($11 I think), but very good. SO, nice job to the new mgmt. team - keep it up. Tom and Deb.

[Mink Islander]

My wife and I ate dinner at Lavinia's Thursday and really enjoyed it. The clam chowder was interesting and a little different with a heavier bacon flavor than most, but delicious. The Caesar salad was also a slightly different take on the traditional with tomatoes added and the romaine cut lengthwise. My wife loved the ragout and I had the filet with the pappardelle pasta in Alfredo sauce - also an unusual combination but good. My steak was a perfect medium rare.

I think it's great they have such wide price points across the menu and look forward to trying other things.

We all know its tough to make a restaurant successful, particularly in a highly seasonal location. I wish the owners and staff the best of luck and success!

[Pineedles]

I am very surprised that Scott had any stories to tell, other than how he has tried to intimidate diners when they came to him with legitimate complaints. I have no complaints about the food at any of his restaurants, but he is a very rude owner.

[upthesaukee]

Originally Posted by Pineedles

I am very surprised that Scott had any stories to tell, other than how he has tried to intimidate diners when they came to him with legitimate complaints. I have no complaints about the food at any of his restaurants, but he is a very rude owner.

I don't think that Scott O. owns Lavinias, and you have the Scott who is the bartender confused.

Sounds like an oops here.

[wifi]

I tend to refer to people I am closely familiar with, only, by their first name. Why do people feel the need to refer to Scott O by his first name, as if they are bosom buddies ? No offense meant to any poster here, its just why are people acting familiar with people they obviously only "know" in passing.

Yeah, its an old concept and I'm very old

[Mink Islander]

I've read back to some of the earlier threads to get some context for Pine needle's otherwise non sequitur and nasty comment.

Lost on me why after several polite and constructive reviews by others of the actual restaurant, he lobbed this nasty gram and attempts to drag this thread back down the hole it was in for a while.

I'm all for talking about what we like and don't like about a restaurant (food, atmosphere, and staff) but this is simply a personal attack. One of the reasons I post very infrequently anymore. This is what core members of the forum have allowed and even encouraged the dialogue to become. Sad really.

Now can we bring this back to restaurant reviews?

[Pineedles]

You are right upthesaukee I did confuse the two. I am sorry, I just get a bit boiling when I hear the name Scott. Sorry. I have no complaints against Lavinia's.

MI, You are so wrong on so many areas of your post.

[Greene's Basin Girl]

A group of us had dinner at Lavinia's on Sunday evening. Unfortunately it was not good. We were so very disappointed because the last time we were there it was great. We never received our bread until we were done with our meal. It wasn't that they forgot- they simply ran out. Three of us ordered the House Pasta and none of us liked it. It was overcooked and salty. My husband had duck. He said it was served lukewarm and the portion was small. We asked for three separate checks. We received three separate checks, but all three of them were the same check. They eventually found the other two checks. Maybe we should have waited until after Labor Day when the crowds subside. It is to bad because we live here year round. These restaurants have to survive on a great deal of local business in the off season. We will not return for a very long time and we live close by.

[Orion]

I've had my best dinner in the Lakes Region about a year or so ago at this restaurant and I've also had my worst a few months later. The best was during the week when they weren't too busy and the worst was a Friday night when they were busy. Yes, they ran out of bread on us on that busy night, too. So, bottom line, is they are not good at peak load, but are outstanding otherwise, IMHO.

[blacksheep]

Orion, when you ate at Lavinia's a year ago there was a different chef. The restaurant was sold early this past winter, however the name was not changed. The Coe House was in operation for many years, then underwent a 'rebrand' about 3 1/2 years ago. A very experienced chef (25+ years experience, classic culinary education) was hired and the menu and vibe was revamped. After two very successful years the restaurant was sold (early winter of this past year) to the current owner and his son. Despite the confusion on this page, Lavinia's is NOT owned (nor has it ever been owned) by the owner of Canoe. There was a bartender at Lavinia's, Scott, who is wonderful. Not to be confused with the owner of Canoe. (Btw, you can find Scott behind the bar at Lago in Meredith if you're looking for a fantastic cocktail and good stories.) The new owner's son, Brandon McGuff, is young culinary graduate with lots of enthusiasm, but not a ton of experience. He and his dad have spent their first season trying to find their paces and there may have been a few bumps in the road, but don't write them off just yet. A new restaurant deserves a full year to see if they can stand the test. They've still got a few months left to prove they've got the stuff.

[Orion]

Blacksheep, I haven't written them off. In fact, I've been back a couple of times since the bad experience and was very satisfied with the whole experience each time. I was just making the point that even a great restaurant can get stressed beyond their capacity limits in high-season. ....and that's why I rarely eat out on weekends in the summer up here.

[secondcurve]

Originally Posted by Greene's Basin Girl

A group of us had dinner at Lavinia's on Sunday evening. Unfortunately it was not good. We were so very disappointed because the last time we were there it was great. We never received our bread until we were done with our meal. It wasn't that they forgot- they simply ran out. Three of us ordered the House Pasta and none of us liked it. It was overcooked and salty. My husband had duck. He said it was served lukewarm and the portion was small. We asked for three separate checks. We received three separate checks, but all three of them were the same check. They eventually found the other two checks. Maybe we should have waited until after Labor Day when the crowds subside. It is to bad because we live here year round. These restaurants have to survive on a great deal of local business in the off season. We will not return for a very long time and we live close by.

3 checks? Really? I'm sure Lavina's staff was equally as unimpressed with your group as you were with them.

[Greene's Basin Girl]

Originally Posted by secondcurve

3 checks? Really? I'm sure Lavina's staff was equally as unimpressed with your group as you were with them.

I think you are being quite harsh. Some people in the group have several drinks and some do not have any. Some people have gotten tired of partially paying for drinks when they don't drink. Also some people order 3 courses and other's may order one course. I would rather give my extra cash to a charity. With your attitude I am quite sure some people may not be impressed with you. Of course you may be so wealthy that you always pay the entire bill when you are out to dinner with others. GOOD FOR YOU!

[Rusty]

Originally Posted by Greene's Basin Girl

I think you are being quite harsh. Some people in the group have several drinks and some do not have any. Some people have gotten tired of partially paying for drinks when they don't drink. Also some people order 3 courses and other's may order one course. I would rather give my extra cash to a charity. With your attitude I am quite sure some people may not be impressed with you. Of course you may be so wealthy that you always pay the entire bill when you are out to dinner with others. GOOD FOR YOU!

I always tell the server to give us separate checks before ordering the meals.

Asking after the meals are served really isn't fair to the server.

[Happy Gourmand]

Yup, common practice with us too. We go out with 2 or 3 other couples and always ask for separate checks before we order. We've never had an issue with any server at any restaurant we've been to regarding our request. We do it for the same reason GBG does it.

[Chaselady]

We do the same. If we have dinner with friends that eat and drink as much as we do we may ask the waiter if it's okay to split the check.
We have rarely been at a restaurant when one person can pick up the check for the table.

[VitaBene]

We get one check and throw a card down for each couple. We don't ask for separate checks (but we all drink about the same amount)

I certainly can understand asking for separate checks before ordering- it is no different than having 3 couples at 3 separate tables at that point.

Regarding Lavinias, it has been hit or miss with us this year. Unfortunately, we have had more recent misses.

[ishoot308]

I guess I have always felt if your friendly enough to sit at the same table and break bread, you should be friendly enough to break up the check...

Dan

[blacksheep]

Most restaurants use computerized POS systems that make splitting the check very simple. It's really not, typically, a big deal. Perhaps your server was stressed, new, or both...

[Bumble2249]

Originally Posted by Greene's Basin Girl

I think you are being quite harsh. Some people in the group have several drinks and some do not have any. Some people have gotten tired of partially paying for drinks when they don't drink. Also some people order 3 courses and other's may order one course. I would rather give my extra cash to a charity. With your attitude I am quite sure some people may not be impressed with you. Of course you may be so wealthy that you always pay the entire bill when you are out to dinner with others. GOOD FOR YOU!

You let the server know that you will need separate checks BEFORE you order. Nothing new there.


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[BroadHopper]

Originally Posted by blacksheep

Most restaurants use computerized POS systems that make splitting the check very simple. It's really not, typically, a big deal. Perhaps your server was stressed, new, or both...

The waitstaff will be carrying a tablet that will send the order directly to the kitchen and POS! There is even a possibility you can order ahead of time on a web-enabled device and your food and drinks will be ready when you arrive!

[secondcurve]

Originally Posted by Greene's Basin Girl

I think you are being quite harsh. Some people in the group have several drinks and some do not have any. Some people have gotten tired of partially paying for drinks when they don't drink. Also some people order 3 courses and other's may order one course. I would rather give my extra cash to a charity. With your attitude I am quite sure some people may not be impressed with you. Of course you may be so wealthy that you always pay the entire bill when you are out to dinner with others. GOOD FOR YOU!

I didn't mean to be harsh. You just brought me back to my college days as a waiter at a high-end Boston restaurant. Our waitstaff always lamented the folks who broke up checks. Those who did this were typically demanding and more often than not they were lousy tippers.

My position on splitting checks has nothing to do with being wealthy or not being wealthy. Rather, it has to do with averages. Sometimes splitting a check equally will help you and sometimes it will hurt you but at the end of the day, over the long run, it all equals out so why bother? The next time you go out to a restaurant have a drink, enjoy your meal and dinning partners and stop paying attention to who is ordering desert or an extra drink! I think you'll enjoy yourself more if you follow my advice. Give it a try and let me know.

[Denny Crane]

Originally Posted by secondcurve

My position on splitting checks has nothing to do with being wealthy or not being wealthy. Rather, it has to do with averages. Sometimes splitting a check equally will help you and sometimes it will hurt you but at the end of the day, over the long run, it all equals out so why bother? The next time you go out to a restaurant have a drink, enjoy your meal and dinning partners and stop paying attention to who is ordering desert or an extra drink! I think you'll enjoy yourself more if you follow my advice. Give it a try and let me know.

I'm with you.

That deserves a ......."Denny Crane." You must be Alan Shore

[Rusty]

Originally Posted by Denny Crane

I'm with you.

That deserves a ......."Denny Crane." You must be Alan Shore

Hey Denny, is Alan still afraid of clowns?

[secondcurve]

Originally Posted by Rusty

Hey Denny, is Alan still afraid of clowns?

From what I understand he is only afraid of clowns when it is raining out and they are dancing on the trash cans.

[4Fun]

Originally Posted by secondcurve

I didn't mean to be harsh. You just brought me back to my college days as a waiter at a high-end Boston restaurant. Our waitstaff always lamented the folks who broke up checks. Those who did this were typically demanding and more often than not they were lousy tippers.

My position on splitting checks has nothing to do with being wealthy or not being wealthy. Rather, it has to do with averages. Sometimes splitting a check equally will help you and sometimes it will hurt you but at the end of the day, over the long run, it all equals out so why bother? The next time you go out to a restaurant have a drink, enjoy your meal and dinning partners and stop paying attention to who is ordering desert or an extra drink! I think you'll enjoy yourself more if you follow my advice. Give it a try and let me know.

When we go out with friends who drink more we just make up the difference when it comes time to write in the tip. Our friends will leave more of the required 20%. We don't burden the server with seperate checks.

[baygo]

Originally Posted by BroadHopper

The waitstaff will be carrying a tablet that will send the order directly to the kitchen and POS! There is even a possibility you can order ahead of time on a web-enabled device and your food and drinks will be ready when you arrive!

Actually BroadHopper; the future has come on this one. I, thru baygo, introduced an Ipad system to my staff back in May that fits your futuristic vission. It baled me out big-time during a period of staffing challenges. I'll be tweaking it ove the winter to include some really neat features. In the mean time... seperate checks are easy to proccess.

I've designed the program to adapt to other restaurants and am working towards a freware model.

[Crusty]

I have worked (many years ago), and still eat in many restaurants of various types and price ranges. It is my considered opinion that the following two axioms apply to all restaurants, but more so as the average tab increases:

1) No matter how wrong, the customer is ALWAYS right.

2) The Golden Rule: He who has the gold, makes the rules.

For example. I'll put up with a lot from a restaurant that serves good food for $10 a person and go back regularly. However, if I'm being charged $30+ for a meal, they better not seat me next to the rest room or kitchen and my water glass better be kept full. --And anything else I can think of at the time. [For $50+ I demand tap-dancing waiters.]

As for Lavinia's...

My wife and I were in the neighborhood last year and stopped in slightly before opening. We were seated at the bar. Because we were time-constrained, we each ordered a salad (don't remember the particulars). The wait staff was attentive to our needs and the kitchen prepared two very excellent salads before opening (the croutons were exceptional and actually enhanced the salad for a change). Although priced toward the high end, the total package was well worth it and we will stop in again when in the area at dinner time.

[Orion]

We stopped in Lavinias a few nights ago, arriving around 6pm. It was very quiet and wait staff was very friendly and attentive. Got the clam chowder and think it is one of the top three I've ever had, with a very nice smoked-bacon flavor. I followed that with the fish tacos and they were delicious! They are also the cheapest thing on the menu. They use blackened fish and have a LOT of flavor, and certainly not fishy. They are very spicy, so I'd recommend getting the hot spicy mayo on side and not on the taco so you can dip it to the level you can stand (did I say it was hot-spicy?). I will be getting those again. My wife had the salmon and really liked it. The somewhat high cost of the salmon averaged out the whole bill to make it overall a fair transaction, IMHO. I will be back.

[JTA]

I was with a group of eight last night at Lavinia's (4 couples). We asked ahead of time for separate checks. My meal was fabulous! Tomato bisque soup, the scallops (served on sautéed spinach and onions) and smashed baby potatoes (very tasty). When the checks came they were accurate to the penny. We don't go out a lot but this meal was the best this season.

[polarisman14]

Just wanted to add to the pile of positive press that Lavinia's has earned itself. My wife and I headed out there last night for an early reservation for our anniversary. Prices were comparable, the restaurant was clean (and had a really neat layout!), and service was attentive but not overbearing.

The quality of food was great--we split the house salad, I got the Pork Ragout for a main dish and the wifey got the Belknap Burger. The Ragout had freshly made pasta and great flavors throughout and the burger (though cooked to my wife's medium well taste instead of my preference, medium rare) was juicy and very flavorful as were the fries. Dessert was pecan pie for me and the almond cake for her, both of which were great.

We had that and a drink apiece and it came to about a hundred including tip which I'd consider a pretty decent value for an upscale dining experience on the water. Cheers!

[Pine Island Guy]

we went Saturday evening about 7:30pm, it was packed, but found two seats at the bar and treated superbly by the bartender Kayliegh!!

The clam chowder was yummy, as previous posters have pointed out it has a nice smoked bacon flavor, but it wasn't overwhelming...

I had the duck, which was locally raised, very tender and great flavor...

My delightful date had the salmon, which was cooked perfectly (slightly rare), very moist and also great flavor.

The braised vegtables were very good, but I actually preferred the risotto that came with the salmon and managed to hijack most of it off my wife's plate

Kayliegh made a great martini and cosmo, and although she was busy pouring drinks for the rest of the restaurant, also made sure we were well taken care of.

We opted to share the 'Funny Bone' dessert... rich chocolate cake with peanut butter mousse and vanilla ice-cream... a nice way to end the evening!

eat on! -PIG

[Bumble2249]

Tried the Tavern menu tonight. Short but perfect! $5 for two pulled pork carnitas...plus happy hour... Great deal and the food was great. Now there's a bunch if options for any budget without sacrificing quality.


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[SAMIAM]

Originally Posted by blacksheep

My gosh... I don't know what you mean, or are implying, with your comment belly-button-biter, but I can assure you - I am the author of my own opinions and perspectives, I'm not working in cahoots with anyone, and I was just trying to spread the word - to people who might actually know people who are looking - that a restaurant I care about is looking for help. Good lord, this forum can be utterly ridiculous sometimes...

Forgive me in advance if I'm wrong Blacksheep, but isn't your husband the chef at Lago's? If that is true it seems a little disingenuous that you seem to be promoting them and steering people away from Lavinia's as an impartial observer.

[upthesaukee]

Here is a link to the Article. Nice to see Chef McGuff giving back to students who want to pursue a career as a chef / restaurant owner.

http://thecitizen.villagesoup.com/p/...aurant/1259073

[blacksheep]

Posting tonight on Lavinia's FB page advertising 'two drinks for $5 and $1.50 pork tacos. Can you beat the 15 taco challenge?' Omg what has happened to Lavina's? I know the winter can be tough, but this grand dam deserves more dignity that THIS. Sad to see this.

[Bumble2249]

Originally Posted by blacksheep

Posting tonight on Lavinia's FB page advertising 'two drinks for $5 and $1.50 pork tacos. Can you beat the 15 taco challenge?' Omg what has happened to Lavina's? I know the winter can be tough, but this grand dam deserves more dignity that THIS. Sad to see this.

I think it's a great angle for this time of year. The tacos just so your aware, are not your avg taco either. Slow braised shredded pork. Fantastic.


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[Major]

Originally Posted by blacksheep

Posting tonight on Lavinia's FB page advertising 'two drinks for $5 and $1.50 pork tacos. Can you beat the 15 taco challenge?' Omg what has happened to Lavina's? I know the winter can be tough, but this grand dam deserves more dignity that THIS. Sad to see this.

Since when is it undignified to provide awesome value? We all know the restaurant biz is tough in the winter in the Lakes Region. I think it's smart business for Lavinia's to entice people into their restaurant who otherwise would never go.

[Pine Island Guy]

Originally Posted by blacksheep

Posting tonight on Lavinia's FB page advertising 'two drinks for $5 and $1.50 pork tacos. Can you beat the 15 taco challenge?' Omg what has happened to Lavina's? I know the winter can be tough, but this grand dam deserves more dignity that THIS. Sad to see this.

I say it's a great venue and a great deal... why question it... let's eat, drink, and be merry!!

nom nom nom -PIG

[SAMIAM]

Once again,Blacksheep makes a dig at Lavinia's.......wonder if there might be a reason.
Hmmmmm

[CGI3]

Originally Posted by SAMIAM

Once again,Blacksheep makes a dig at Lavinia's.......wonder if there might be a reason.
Hmmmmm

Blacksheep, did your husband used to work at Lavinia's when the food was incredibly "out of this world"??...And now working at Lago's??

[blacksheep]

It's no secret that my husband and I had a connection to Lavinia's - not a secret on this page, nor is it a secret to SAMIAM, who is also vested in her best interest, as he owns the building. However, if you read the entire thread you'll see that I've offered as much SUPPORT as I have criticism. Chef McGuff knows exactly who I am when, and if, he cares to read my posts. I am not alone in expressing that it seems that Lavinia's needs to figure out who she wants to be; fine dining, casual, pub-focused, or an all-you-can eat taco bar where you can also fill up on cheap drinks. She pops up on my FB feed from time to time - we still care about the restaurant and want to see it be successful, particularly b/c we know it can be done. I don't say anything here that I wouldn't say directly to Brandon if we were in the same room. Happy New Year.

[Bumble2249]

Originally Posted by blacksheep

It's no secret that my husband and I had a connection to Lavinia's - not a secret on this page, nor is it a secret to SAMIAM, who is also vested in her best interest, as he owns the building. However, if you read the entire thread you'll see that I've offered as much SUPPORT as I have criticism. Chef McGuff knows exactly who I am when, and if, he cares to read my posts. I am not alone in expressing that it seems that Lavinia's needs to figure out who she wants to be; fine dining, casual, pub-focused, or an all-you-can eat taco bar where you can also fill up on cheap drinks. She pops up on my FB feed from time to time - we still care about the restaurant and want to see it be successful, particularly b/c we know it can be done. I don't say anything here that I wouldn't say directly to Brandon if we were in the same room. Happy New Year.

I think their multi faceted approach to dining in general is genius. Nothing to figure out at all.


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[thinkxingu]

I hate comments from people with agendas, known or unknown. If you don't like the way a restaurant is run, don't patronize it or, if you're feeling particularly disappointed, bring it up to management. To come on here, a public forum, just to criticize a choice a restaurant has made--nothing to do with the quality, etc. of the experience--under the guise of wanting to see it succeed is disingenuous. If, to continue offering a fine dining experience in summer, Lavinia's needs to simplify for winter, so be it. I'm seasonal, and really wouldn't spend the money to dine there in season, but things like this would get me to take a road trip to check on camp and drop in.

[CGI3]

Originally Posted by blacksheep

It's no secret that my husband and I had a connection to Lavinia's - not a secret on this page, nor is it a secret to SAMIAM, who is also vested in her best interest, as he owns the building. However, if you read the entire thread you'll see that I've offered as much SUPPORT as I have criticism. Chef McGuff knows exactly who I am when, and if, he cares to read my posts. I am not alone in expressing that it seems that Lavinia's needs to figure out who she wants to be; fine dining, casual, pub-focused, or an all-you-can eat taco bar where you can also fill up on cheap drinks. She pops up on my FB feed from time to time - we still care about the restaurant and want to see it be successful, particularly b/c we know it can be done. I don't say anything here that I wouldn't say directly to Brandon if we were in the same room. Happy New Year.

A little disclaimer letting us all know that your husband worked there and was either let go, or left on his own accord would have been nice...

[Ross_t]

Finally got a chance to eat at Lavinia's last night. Sat in the tavern, which was fairly full with tight seating. Nice building, decent meal, but ordered burgers "medium" got well done. Kind of underwhelmed, but probably will try again and order something a bit more interesting.
I have had better burgers at chain restaurants such as Smokey Bones and Chilis..

[gillygirl]

Originally Posted by CGI3

A little disclaimer letting us all know that your husband worked there and was either let go, or left on his own accord would have been nice...

Before you go off on blacksheep, you should do your research. In post 25, she states she had an interest in Lavinia's at one time. If you do a little more research, it appears that SAMIAM is taking digs at blacksheep while complaining she is taking digs at Lavinia's. Since he owns the building which houses Lavinia's (something he never stated in this thread, but which blacksheep pointed out), he's the one with the current vested interest. Why is there a double-standard?

Throughout the thread, blacksheep has been very supportive of the current owner and chef. Let's not treat blacksheep like a blacksheep.

[Billy Bob]

So it turns out that people with a vested interest in the success or failure of establishments are posting comments regarding the quality etc of this and I would assume other businesses . Unbelievable ! Not really , that's one of the problems you run into with open forums . This does bring into question the value of these reviews , the fix , both good and bad , is in.
Suggestion : if you have any interest cant you try to hold yourself back and not post your opinion about quality etc .