Mooring installation

[Steveo]

Originally Posted by The Phantom Gourmand

Could you just put it on the ice right where you want it, to sink when it thaws?

I hope you're kidding.

1. Mooring has a good chance to float away with ice as it breaks up.

2. Real hazard to snowmobiles, particularly at night.

3. Tough to get a cement truck or electric mixer on the ice. Have you ever hand mix a 1000 lbs of cement before.

3. Can't guarantee it will land right side up. Makes a difference if you want to replace parts, like chains, shackles, etc.

Have a professional do it.

[Happy Gourmand]

Originally Posted by Steveo

I hope you're kidding.

1. Mooring has a good chance to float away with ice as it breaks up.

2. Real hazard to snowmobiles, particularly at night.

3. Tough to get a cement truck or electric mixer on the ice. Have you ever hand mix a 1000 lbs of cement before.

3. Can't guarantee it will land right side up. Makes a difference if you want to replace parts, like chains, shackles, etc.

Have a professional do it.

It was kind of tongue in cheek, but a good idea EXCEPT for all the reasons you give!

[codeman671]

We had Diversified Marine do ours back in 2005. We used 2000 lb blocks and standard chain.

A few seasons back we had Central Marine Divers come out and do an inspection, which turned into a chain replacement. I wish I had gone stainless in the first place, but it was years ago and I didn't know any better. It is amazing how a chain can be full size up top and paper thin at the bottom. There is an example of this on the wall at the Moorings Bureau at the MP building in Belmont.

[AltonCAM]

I know this is a bit off topic but how doeas one obtain a mooring permit in the first place. I have scoured the NH web-site and the Alton Bay web-site to no avail. Please help.

[climber]

Here is a link to the State of New Hampshire moorings program http://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/n...ngs/index.html . This site has the application and regulations that govern the installation and permitting of moorings. Sure-Line Moorings on Winnipesaukee specializes in the installation and maintenance of all moorings....their email is sureline.moorings@aol.com

[laddheath]

Hello all. Thank you for the help. In reference to the question about doing it over the winter on the ice, I did think of this as I thought of a lot of ways to DIY and each time I thought it through I realized there was a high % for error and would end up being a lot of work. In the end I am going to leave this one up to the experts. Thx again for all the help. Steve

[Peteg5]

Originally Posted by codeman671

We had Diversified Marine do ours back in 2005. We used 2000 lb blocks and standard chain.

A few seasons back we had Central Marine Divers come out and do an inspection, which turned into a chain replacement. I wish I had gone stainless in the first place, but it was years ago and I didn't know any better. It is amazing how a chain can be full size up top and paper thin at the bottom. There is an example of this on the wall at the Moorings Bureau at the MP building in Belmont.

Yes, use stainless chain and stainless shackles that are underwater.

[Steveo]

Originally Posted by Peteg5

Yes, use stainless chain and stainless shackles that are underwater.

For the eyelet that is embedded in the cement block definitely stainless. But stainless steel shackles and $25 each and chain at $20 a foot I would stay with galvanized for that portion.

[camp guy]

The choice between stainless chain or galvanized chain can be determined by several factors. First, and most obvious, your personal tolerance factor for something to go wrong and your boat floats away; second, your ability to keep watch on your mooring hardware (depth of water, etc) and monitor the corrosion/deterioration of the chain; and third, not at all insignificant, the relative cost difference based on depth and necessary hardware.

Personally, I had zero tolerance for my boat floating away, and, even though the water depth was modest, I decided to spend the money to (at least) feel safe about my boat when I wasn't home to watch it.

Good luck. Remember, it's your boat.

[billy]

some stainless hardware and chain is softer then galvi ...so even though the chain is still shiny, watch for wear

[Happy Gourmand]

Stainless steel chain is far from a forever solution for Winnipesaukee. The acidity of the lake water will disintegrate the chain, it just takes a little longer. There was a discussion here some years back that incuded several pics of stainless steel chain after some years in Winni.
Here's a link

http://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/...ss+steel+chain

[MeredithMan]

....not a place to get cheap and skimp. The SS is worth the extra money.

MM