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Old 05-16-2014, 06:46 PM   #1
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Calling the President of the United states the "N" word has nothing to do with politics?
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Old 05-16-2014, 07:09 PM   #2
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Calling the President of the United states the "N" word has nothing to do with politics?
That is correct. It is about one man's prejudice. This prejudice just happened to be directed at a public official in this incidence. That has nothing to do with politics.
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Old 05-16-2014, 07:13 PM   #3
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These are the words out of the commissioners mouth and not my words about whether it's political or not:

"In the parking lot after the meeting, Copeland told one woman that when he called Obama “that f------ n-----,” he was speaking politically and not racially."

http://www.concordmonitor.com/news/1...led-at-meeting
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Old 05-16-2014, 07:45 PM   #4
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These are the words out of the commissioners mouth and not my words about whether it's political or not:

"In the parking lot after the meeting, Copeland told one woman that when he called Obama “that f------ n-----,” he was speaking politically and not racially." [Emphasis added]

http://www.concordmonitor.com/news/1...led-at-meeting
It would appear that Mr. Copeland fits into my second category: not a real racist, just an idiot (and an ill-tempered one, at that) with a big mouth.

Has anyone turned-up any other "racist" evidence against the good Commissioner? I would have expected to see some allegations by now. I really think we can dismiss the whole thing as just an idiot who really dislikes the President's job performance, not his race, but is too damn stubborn to admit that he screwed-up when he was shooting-off his mouth. Perhaps we can take up a collection and send him a thesaurus.

You know something else? I'm sitting here in Columbus, Ohio and if this is the biggest problem you have in Wolfeboro, you are indeed blessed.
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I agree with Crusty.

Politics can make some people really look foolish and this guy did just that.

Sorry for bringing up politics in this forum but it is what it is and Mr. Copeland hates Democrats and not black people in general. IMO that is.
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Lets attack this problem with rants and name calling, just don't use the "N" word. Idiot, moron, loser, etc. is ok. Attack, attack, attack, I'm not sticking up for someone's unacceptable behavior or choice of words. Especially a town official. I will say I'll take responsibility for my own shortcomings. God knows I have them. Matter of fact the last time I (Probably ) made a mistake is when I decided to post this. My life hasn't always been honorable, honest and pure.
Hope fully I was part of the solution and not part of the problem today.
Tomorrow I'll try to help someone along the way and count my Blessings.
One which I look forward to spending next weekend on the lake.
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I agree with Crusty.

Politics can make some people really look foolish and this guy did just that.

Sorry for bringing up politics in this forum but it is what it is and Mr. Copeland hates Democrats and not black people in general. IMO that is.
So he's prejudiced against democrats and black people....no, he's not racist. So how does he feel about black democrats? Give me a break, this man does not deserve to hold any public office.
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Old 05-16-2014, 11:17 PM   #8
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So he's prejudiced against democrats and black people....no, he's not racist. So how does he feel about black democrats? Give me a break, this man does not deserve to hold any public office.
Whoa there... That is NOT what Rusty said. His post states "...Copeland hates Democrats and not black people in general." [Emphasis added]

This is exactly how angry mobs of townspeople with pitchforks get started. I don't recall anything about "prejudiced against democrats" nor "black democrats". We DO know how he feels about one black democrat in particular. His incredibly stupid and ignorant remark aside, we do not know that Copeland is really a racist in the TRUE sense of the word.

And since the thread keeps oscillating about the central point in an ever-widening arc, perhaps some clarification is in order:

There are exactly three "races": Caucasoid, Negroid, and Mongoloid. If you are a "racist", you make decisions based upon a person's racial identity. Thus, voting FOR Obama because of his Negroid ancestry is just as racist as voting AGAINST him for the same reason. You can, however, despise --or love-- him for ANY other reason and NOT be a racist.

This means that you can hate all Democrats/Republicans without being racist, since political affiliation is not a "race". You can dislike Mexicans or Canadians and not be racist because this involves nationality. Same goes for religious persuasion. I'm not suggesting that generalizations are a good thing; Most prejudices are ill-advised. [Except, perhaps, not liking bagpipes.]

If we can just tone down the rhetoric a bit, take a deep breath, and carefully consider what we ourselves think and say, perhaps Bill O'Reilly will quit mentioning Wolfeboro. As for me, I'm going over to the Restaurant forum and look longingly at upthesaukee's picture of Pop's onion rings.
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It is better to remain silent at the risk of being thought a fool, than to talk and remove all doubt of it.

Some should heed this advice.
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The word racism will have more meaning when it is not tolerated from all sides. Until then, it is a boring and pointless conversation. We cannot expect anything to get better when some racism is tolerated because it is somehow politically correct. I do not want to go way into politics, so I'll end it there.

What surprised me most about this story is that Wolfeboro has a police commissioner.
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What surprised me most about this story is that Wolfeboro has a police commissioner.
Right, I was thinking I was the only one that thought it is utterly ridiculous that a town that wouldn't even be classified as mid-sized has not only one, but three commissioners.

The voters of Wolfeboro should really be asking themselves why this position description can't be handled by the Chief. They should also be questioning their criteria for selection, because they have voted some seriously questionable people into this office. Giving citizens power over the police force, apparently goes directly to your head!
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Right, I was thinking I was the only one that thought it is utterly ridiculous that a town that wouldn't even be classified as mid-sized has not only one, but three commissioners.

The voters of Wolfeboro should really be asking themselves why this position description can't be handled by the Chief. They should also be questioning their criteria for selection, because they have voted some seriously questionable people into this office. Giving citizens power over the police force, apparently goes directly to your head!
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I agree with jmen24 and therefore it is time to put this on a the ballot at the next election:


TITLE VII
SHERIFFS, CONSTABLES, AND POLICE OFFICERS


CHAPTER 105-C
POLICE COMMISSIONS


Section 105-C:2
105-C:2 Referendum. – The following questions shall be submitted to the voters of a town on the regular ballot for the election of town officers if a petition is presented to the selectmen in accordance with RSA 39:3 requesting the same:
I. "Shall the government of the police department of the town of __________ be entrusted to a police commission?''
II. "If so, shall such police commissioners be chosen by:
(a) Popular election at town election; or
(b) Appointment of the governor with consent of the council?''
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