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Old 06-10-2014, 08:04 PM   #1
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Although I hate them, I wouldn't hurt or kill any of them. So chasing with a jet ski or in my case my dog who's new command "go get 'em" has to be allowed as long as it's just chasing. My dog just runs to the back of my yard barking at them and chasing them back into the brook from which they came. Stupid bastards will sit there across the brook and as soon as I walk away, they come on back. And sometimes even when I'm still sitting there. I sit with the dog on a bench and just watch until I know they are gone. I didn't allow him to chase until the babies were a little bigger but now it's on.

The poop is gross and is not good for the environment. I want to kill people who feed them.

PS I had a friend who's son chased a bunch out of a park one day and they ran into the street and got hit and killed by a car. Son had to do community service for his crime.

Even better you want to kill people who feed the geese (your words above, not mine) but yet you won't kill geese that are creating health problems!
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Old 06-11-2014, 07:28 AM   #2
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Secondcurve, you're going to get a sore throat barking up that kind of tree!
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Old 06-11-2014, 06:06 PM   #3
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Secondcurve, you're going to get a sore throat barking up that kind of tree!
I know sometimes there is no reasoning with folks.
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Old 06-12-2014, 12:53 PM   #4
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Well, some dogs are really annoying, barking at and chasing people, pooping in your yard, etc. Some folks think dog makes a good meal. So let's jump in our cars and run down some dogs and take them home for lunch, OK? You know the bear that pulled down your bird feeder? Bear steaks? Now running them down might take a little more heft than a car.

You could probably try to make the rationalization that the only good animal is a dead animal. They all get annoying from time to time. Those loons calling all night long, don't they ever shut up?

We live in a natural area folks and, to some extent, we have to put up with the down sides of that. The law suggests that as well.

And NO, I don't think running an animal down, especially young that cannot possibly flee, is the right way to deal with the problem.
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I dont know Jeff but to expand on your logic in that last post I would say....those mice that have over run your house should be left alone. Those darn red squirrels that chew there way into my attic should be left alone. That smelly skunk I had living under my crawlspace should continue to stink up the house. I understand your point but there are animals that are a nuisance and need to be dealt with. Geese pooping all over my property is one of them.
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"Well, some dogs are really annoying, barking at and chasing people, pooping in your yard, etc."

Slightly different issue there. That is reflection of the owner, not the pet. Dogs are smart and easily trainable. Geese.......not so much.

Geese also nest in the same spot each year so the problem perpetuates itself. Ugg.
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Old 06-12-2014, 02:02 PM   #7
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True, and dogs don't multiply in a family each year from 2-6-10-20-30 etc. in just a few years. This is what is happening on the lake.
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If a neighbors dog pooping on your property is a problem and they won't deal with it. Pour Chicken Gravy on the problem and the dogs will clean up after themselves!

You can't do that with geese, unless...... your neighbor has a dog that is always in your yard. Highly trainable you say.....
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Old 06-12-2014, 03:39 PM   #9
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We spend big $$$ to fight the influx of milfoil in the Lake. Lots of money and lots of manpower. Why?

Because it is plant that is invasive and is not native to the Lake. If it is allowed to go unchecked it will turn our beautiful Lake into a swamp. Watch the property values drop!

I consider geese to be like milfoil. They have been around for a long time but have not taken up residence on the Lake until recent years. Now they are breeding here. If they are allowed to populate the Lake unchecked they will ruin the water quality and watch the property values drop.

I do not have a solution on how to get them off of the Lake. We don't want to do anything stupid but something has to be done.

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We spend big $$$ to fight the influx of milfoil in the Lake. Lots of money and lots of manpower. Why?

Because it is plant that is invasive and is not native to the Lake. If it is allowed to go unchecked it will turn our beautiful Lake into a swamp. Watch the property values drop!

I consider geese to be like milfoil. They have been around for a long time but have not taken up residence on the Lake until recent years. Now they are breeding here. If they are allowed to populate the Lake unchecked they will ruin the water quality and watch the property values drop.

I do not have a solution on how to get them off of the Lake. We don't want to do anything stupid but something has to be done.

Any ideas?

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We chased them off our property a few years ago with our son's paintball gun. We didn't aim to hurt them, but they got the idea, took off and didn't come back.
They are amazingly territorial and protective of their babies.
When we started firing paintballs near them they rounded up the little ones and ran.
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We spend big $$$ to fight the influx of milfoil in the Lake. Lots of money and lots of manpower. Why?

Because it is plant that is invasive and is not native to the Lake. If it is allowed to go unchecked it will turn our beautiful Lake into a swamp. Watch the property values drop!

I consider geese to be like milfoil. They have been around for a long time but have not taken up residence on the Lake until recent years. Now they are breeding here. If they are allowed to populate the Lake unchecked they will ruin the water quality and watch the property values drop.

I do not have a solution on how to get them off of the Lake. We don't want to do anything stupid but something has to be done.

Any ideas?

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Misty: You provides good summary of the problem. The only way to deal with the situation is through an extended hunting season with higher bag limits. Chasing them from one property to the next does nothing to solve the underlying issue. We need to allow more geese to be taken in a sporting manner and used for food. This will eliminate the unwarranted geese/human interactions that are increasing by the day. Before I hear some well intentioned but misinformed person say the geese were here before us so let them stay I'll point out that it is human development that has caused the explosion in the goose population. Manicured lawns and golf courses are conducive habitat and that is the reason for the unchecked population growth. The people who eat fish, crabs, hamburger, steak, veal etc. are the same folks who refuse to deal with nuisance animals because they look so cute.

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Old 06-12-2014, 06:29 PM   #12
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How about rounding up all the Geese eggs that can be found and eating them instead of the Geese. Maybe in time it might reduce the number of them.

I've heard that scrambled Geese eggs taste pretty good.

Maybe even round up the baby Geese and eat them also.

We eat veal...isn't that a baby calve.
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Old 06-12-2014, 06:46 PM   #13
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I witnessed the whole thing too, as referenced above. I was probably more annoyed at the lack of humanity than anything. So maybe, they can be gathered up, and used to feed the poor and save us some tax $$ ?

Nah, the administration of the rules to do this would cost us more....
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I think this may be the answer. The next problem is getting rid of the rodents after they take care of the geese.
I have had a lot of success keeping the geese away this spring with small fireworks and my irrigation system.
They keep trying but they are dealing with a retired guy that has a lot of time to kill. Literally.
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How about rounding up all the Geese eggs that can be found and eating them instead of the Geese. Maybe in time it might reduce the number of them.

I've heard that scrambled Geese eggs taste pretty good.

Maybe even round up the baby Geese and eat them also.

We eat veal...isn't that a baby calve.
Here's a great recipe for you!!

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We spend big $$$ to fight the influx of milfoil in the Lake. Lots of money and lots of manpower. Why?

Because it is plant that is invasive and is not native to the Lake. If it is allowed to go unchecked it will turn our beautiful Lake into a swamp. Watch the property values drop!

I consider geese to be like milfoil. They have been around for a long time but have not taken up residence on the Lake until recent years. Now they are breeding here. If they are allowed to populate the Lake unchecked they will ruin the water quality and watch the property values drop.

I do not have a solution on how to get them off of the Lake. We don't want to do anything stupid but something has to be done.

Any ideas?

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If we can prove that milfoil is thriving on Canadian Geese pooh, we have a valid reason to get rid of the geese!
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This thread is kinda funny in a way because no one seems to mind people chasing or harassing the geese but the guy who supposedly chased the moose with his snowmobile got hammered. Little ironic. Ha ha.
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This thread is kinda funny in a way because no one seems to mind people chasing or harassing the geese but the guy who supposedly chased the moose with his snowmobile got hammered. Little ironic. Ha ha.
The guy that was chasing and running the geese over with the jet ski is an ass, same as the two dopes from Belmont with the Moose! I did not notice a poster in this thread disagreeing with that general feeling.

While I will agree that most of the solutions listed in this thread are technically considered harassing wildlife, the general feeling is that Canada Geese are only one notch above roaches or ants, so it is not looked at in the same way. Doesn't make it right, but again I do not have a waterfront lawn, so I do not have a daily problem with geese. I would feel the same way as any of the waterfront owners that deal with these birds.

I am just waiting for someone to post a video of some of the actions above, so we can really get this thread rolling!
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I don't know of any geese problems on Squam, But I do know of only a few lawns
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Many are nesting in the tall grasses of Garland Pond, where there are very few homes. Then, they make daily rounds to their favorite lawns.
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I had two start wandering around in my field. We are not really on the water (we are on Berry Pond, but you have to walk through 300 yards of forest to get from pond to lawn). Maybe they were just taking a breather, but I sent Steeler out after them anyway... off they went hooting and hollering never to be seen again!
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Jeez folks JeffK just doesn't believe in chasing around little baby animals with a Jetski give him a break. I'm sure people out on the water have better things to be doing on their $10,000 machines. How about we all move deep, deep into the wilderness then kill the bears that threaten us.....STUPID.....
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Jeez folks JeffK just doesn't believe in chasing around little baby animals with a Jetski give him a break. I'm sure people out on the water have better things to be doing on their $10,000 machines. How about we all move deep, deep into the wilderness then kill the bears that threaten us.....STUPID.....
Normally agree with this one, but they were not native to the area and were introduced by humans when a English governor or something like that wanted a few as pets on his estate
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