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Old 07-10-2014, 05:01 PM   #1
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agreed lol
but wanted to know why they are not reverse, green on the other side for leaving the channel and going into the large part of the lake'

only reason I could put together was that the outlet was down in the bay meaning leaving the lake?

Actually it does make sense. usually it's red right return going UPSTREAM. Going in to Paugus is down stream.

Wonder how they figured sally's gut, six pack, graveyard?
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Old 07-11-2014, 09:07 AM   #2
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Actually it does make sense. usually it's red right return going UPSTREAM. Going in to Paugus is down stream.

Wonder how they figured sally's gut, six pack, graveyard?
Every set of solid black and solid red spars that I know of follows the same "black pass on E or N, red pass on W or S" rules as the white spars with black or red tops.
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Old 07-11-2014, 06:22 PM   #3
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Every set of solid black and solid red spars that I know of follows the same "black pass on E or N, red pass on W or S" rules as the white spars with black or red tops.
Black is coid which is in the north east. Red is warm as in the south and west.

The only time to think about red right return is on the ocean - not on the lakes of NH.
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Old 07-24-2014, 01:48 PM   #4
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Every set of solid black and solid red spars that I know of follows the same "black pass on E or N, red pass on W or S" rules as the white spars with black or red tops.
Key word here is SOLID, correct me if I'm wrong but the fact that it is SOLID means that it marks a defined channel. The red-black rule still applies so if you use N/E-S/W you end can't help but to end up in between them. There are spots that red and black (top) spar buoys are close together and passing between them would be breaking the rules on both buoys and could be a very expensive mistake. Solid buoys mark channels. In ocean channels where the red return rule applies, the buoys are also shaped, Nun, and Can, so the bouy can be idetified on conditions such as fog when it's difficult to see the color. Bring a good chart to the ocean, there are NO buoys that mark obstructions, you are on your own.
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Old 07-25-2014, 03:28 PM   #5
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Default 150 foot reference.

I think that the 150 foot navigation reference is a general rule that the NHMP "typically" will not mark hazards closer than 150 feet from shore. If you are that close "local knowledge" is expected to be used.

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It kind of fits nicely with the 150' no wake rule. If you are 150' from shore, then you are at headway speed. So you should be able to watch for rocks.
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Key word here is SOLID, correct me if I'm wrong but the fact that it is SOLID means that it marks a defined channel.
You are indeed correct
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Correct. All the marked channels I know about still have the solid black and red in the correct orientation as the others.
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I've found that the satellite image over at yahoo maps will get you a pretty good bottom image of anything you'd need to worry about close to shore. Google's image is better resolution, but most of it is covered in ice
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Bing also has pretty good images of the lake bottom. I use it to check out shallow areas. This shows those Timber Island rocks:

http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=r82...=b&form=LMLTCC
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I can almost see some fiberglass gel-coat left on the tops of some of those rocks: http://yhoo.it/1pBaMcy



A cool app would be one that takes these satelite images, and jacks up the contrast to enhance an 'underwater' perspective.
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I can almost see some fiberglass gel-coat left on the tops of some of those rocks: http://yhoo.it/1pBaMcy
Take a look at the area around FL #44 ..... between Pitchwood and Eagle.

Is the image just "pixalated" or are those ALL small rocks (close in to Pitchwood)?

I can almost visualize the proper boating path through the 44 and to the Red top south of Stonedam with this view.


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I think what you're seeing is light reflecting off ripples in the water creating an illusion there are a bunch of rocks.
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I'd like to say that those appear to be reflections off the top of the water.

Google map (even though there is ice), doesn't show those 'reflections' or 'rocks'. But it does look like a minefield in yahoo or bing maps (they must be using the same satelite imagery).
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