Wood Pellets

Blue Thunder · 11-19-2014, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ishoot308

Greene Team pellets, as least the ones I bought at Lowes, are in fact manufactured by the New England pellet company in Jaffrey. I don't know if they bought the name brand from the the PA company but it is clearly stated on the side of the bag that they are manufactured by New England Pellets.

Dan

Hey Dan. Take a pic of that Greene Team bag and post it here and I will eat my words. Greene Team is a white bag with green lettering made in PA. Green Supreme is a fairly clear bag where you can see the pellets and is a NEWP product.
http://greensupremewoodpellets.info/index.html
http://www.greeneteampellets.com/?q=node

ishoot308 · 11-19-2014, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue Thunder

Hey Dan. Take a pic of that Greene Team bag and post it here and I will eat my words. Greene Team is a white bag with green lettering made in PA. Green Supreme is a fairly clear bag where you can see the pellets and is a NEWP product.
http://greensupremewoodpellets.info/index.html
http://www.greeneteampellets.com/?q=node

No reason to eat your words...You are quite correct and I stand corrected!

I had a couple bags of Greene Team left over from last year and thought that's what I was burning this year. Low and behold when I went to look at my pellet stack I am actually burning Green Supreme! I only had two tons staring at me in the face since this summer!

I edited all my misinformed posts above to reflect the correct name!

I will say that this years Green Supreme is burning much cleaner than the few bags I tried last year. Didn't care much for them last year...

Sorry everyone!!

Dan

bigdog · 11-20-2014, 03:21 PM

I'm a first time owner of a pellet stove, a Napleaon NPI45.

I'm impressed with the heat output, however, somewhat disappointed with the volumn of pellets being consumed by this stove. I'm running the stove on 'manual' mode, as I don't have a separate thermostat connected which would enable me to run by temperature setting. However, I can control the auger feed rate, which I have set at minimum. The auger appears tp be feeding pellets at the rate of 10-11 second intervals. Napolean service rep. says that's about correct !

It's really hasn't been cold lately, and the stove is consuming a lot of pellets each day? Not sure what the average pellet consumption is suppose to be, but have read owner's manual which says you can get 30+ hr burn with 1 bag of pellets.

Have contacted Naploean directly, and they don't provide much support!
iShoot308 posted "he was on his 22nd bag of Green SUPREME pellets this year and did the first stove cleaning". I find that simply AMAZING !"

Also, I have to clean out the burnpot out daily, and the firebox after about 3-4 bags burned. Cleaning the firebox is difficult, because there is no removable 'ash drawer'. One has to shutdown the stove, and vac. out internal parts.

FYI, I burned 2 bags of 'Green Supreme' from Lowes' and really liked them.
That experience, and with the recommnedations of others, I ordered 1 ton of N.E. Pellets, figuring that both brands were mad by the same company. N.E. is made in Jaffrey and another location in NY. Not sure how you would tell where made, but saw posting on other Forums' that the pellets made in NY. were not the same quality as NH made. and folks were complaining. The N.E. pellets IMHO are inferior to the Green Supreme. They appear to be throwing lots of ash, and I have to clean the stove almost daily. Not good !

At the rate the stove is consuming pellets, my 1 ton isn't going to last too long. Think I'll burn oil for now and save the pellets for Jan-Feb when it gets really cold.

Going out to Hearth.com as Blue Thunder suggested for more info.

Any feedback from Forum pellet stove owners is appreciated for this newbie !

Thanks,
Bigdog

ishoot308 · 11-20-2014, 03:48 PM

Bigdog;

Don't use my pellet consumption as a comparison. I currently only live at that specific house part time (3-4 nights per week).

My Harman P-43 consumes 2 bags per 24 hours when heating during cold weather. However, that is completely heating a home that is over 3000 sq ft with no help! I set the temp to 75 degrees and the feed rate to 3 and never touch it.

I originally bought the stove to heat just the finished basement but it worked so well I decided to open the doors and heat the upstairs with it as well.

My stove is in a finished basement where I keep it at 75 degrees. The main living floor is usually around 66-67 degrees. The upstairs bedrooms are usually around 62 degrees. The home is only a few years old and very well insulated with spray on insulation and high quality low energy windows and doors.

When I live there full time, I anticipate using 4 tons + of pellets per season and very little oil except for hot water. Last winter proved this could be done easily. The savings is dramatic over the oil burner.

Dan

Slickcraft · 11-20-2014, 05:06 PM

BD,

In 6 years of burning pellets I average 190 bags a heating season. The stove runs full time in the heating season, fully heating the 1st floor and helping on the 2nd floor of a 2,100 sq ft house.

I average about 1.25 bags per day, less on warmer days and more on cold days. The HarmAn P-43 runs on a thermostat setting keeping the 1st floor at 72.

I burn about 600 gal of oil less than when it was oil heat only. At today's price of oil at about $3/gal, that would be about $1,800 less in oil cost. This year I paid $239/ton for pellets so 190 bags would be 3.8 ton or $908.

My conclusion is that even with pellet prices up and oil price down this year, I am still ahead burning pellets. Besides, we like the feel of the stove heat in the LR.

BTW, I used to have a top feed pellet stove that needed cleaning once a day. So I really like the P-43 every 2 weeks cleaning cycle.

bigdog · 11-20-2014, 05:29 PM

Thanks Slickcraft and iShoot308 for your feedback, greatly appreciated !

I hear a theme hear..... Harmon P-43.......

I would have purchased a free-standing stove, but we wanted a fireplace insert model, for the asthetics.... Maybe should have thought that out more for various reasons, especially the loading door access.

Stove is located in Family room, at one of house, 2200 SF Colonial 15 yrs old, which was well insulated for it's time. Insualtion is typical Builder Owens roll insulation, didn't have an option. If I had to do again, would apply spray insulation, but that's a mute issue now.....

Any thoughts about the pellets I'm buring?
N.E. Pellets versus Green Supreme ? Have burned both with different results.

Thanks,
Bigdog

NHskier · 11-20-2014, 08:57 PM

Hi Bigdog,

We have the same insert as you, and have been running it for the past week with the colder weather. Running at a setting of about 4 we use roughly one bag per day.

I go 3-4 days between full cleanings. The ash pot will fill up before the side areas though the air throughput will also affect how quickly that happens.

Softwood pellets will produce more heat but burn faster than hardwood so it's a bit of a trade-off.

secondcurve · 11-20-2014, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by NHskier

Hi Bigdog,

We have the same insert as you, and have been running it for the past week with the colder weather. Running at a setting of about 4 we use roughly one bag per day.

I go 3-4 days between full cleanings. The ash pot will fill up before the side areas though the air throughput will also affect how quickly that happens.

Softwood pellets will produce more heat but burn faster than hardwood so it's a bit of a trade-off.

Has anyone used Vermont Wood Pellets? They are a softwood pellet which I am told have higher BTUs and are a cleaning burner fuel with less ash. They are expensive and hard to find but I'm told they are worth it. Any thoughts? Thanks

Blue Thunder · 11-22-2014, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by secondcurve

Has anyone used Vermont Wood Pellets? They are a softwood pellet which I am told have higher BTUs and are a cleaning burner fuel with less ash. They are expensive and hard to find but I'm told they are worth it. Any thoughts? Thanks

Excellent pellet, very low ash, hard to find, and yes pricey. But in this case, it's a "you get what you pay for" pellet. Worth the money to some but those of us with HarmAns don't have to spend the premium price because our stoves will burn anything.

bigdog · 12-20-2014, 11:50 AM

To NHSkier.....

Sent you a PM please read.

Thanks,
Bigdog

Greene's Basin Girl · 12-07-2015, 10:06 PM

My sister is burning with Green Team Supreme Platinum this year and she really likes them. Of course she has not used them much because it has been so warm. I am wondering if anyone else is using them???

Winnisquamer · 12-08-2015, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Greene's Basin Girl

My sister is burning with Green Team Supreme Platinum this year and she really likes them. Of course she has not used them much because it has been so warm. I am wondering if anyone else is using them???

I use the same. No issues here, clean burning and I find I clean my stove less frequently than with other brands. I tried a bunch of different brands and ended up liking these

Ive easily picked them up at Lowes each year.

ishoot308 · 12-08-2015, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greene's Basin Girl

My sister is burning with Green Team Supreme Platinum this year and she really likes them. Of course she has not used them much because it has been so warm. I am wondering if anyone else is using them???

Yes, I am burning the same brand this year and have found them to be an excellent pellet. The best I have used so far! They are a little more money but well worth the difference in my opinion as they have 1/2 the ash and I can go twice as long between cleanings. I don't find that they throw any more heat than other brands but then again never did see much of a difference in pellets in that regard...

Dan

Slickcraft · 12-08-2015, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Greene's Basin Girl

My sister is burning with Green Team Supreme Platinum this year and she really likes them. Of course she has not used them much because it has been so warm. I am wondering if anyone else is using them???

I have used Greene Team hardwood pellets in the past and they were very good. The price has really climbed over the past few years, today $349/ton at Lowe's. Much more expensive than burning oil which is less that $2/gal now.

About 3 years ago I switched to Green Supreme which is a blend made by New England Pellet Co. I have had very good luck with it in the Harman P43 and it has run about $50/ton less than Greene Team. A different blend from Maine was $299/ton today. I got my 4 ton of Green Supreme in Sept when it was $246/ton (with my 5% Lowe's card discount) and that was still more expensive than burning oil. Due to the long steep driveway we can't get oil delivered in the winter so soon it will be the pellet stove 24/7.

11-20-2014, 03:48 PM	#4
ishoot308 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Gilford, NH / Welch Island Posts: 6,343 Thanks: 2,412 Thanked 5,337 Times in 2,086 Posts	Bigdog; Don't use my pellet consumption as a comparison. I currently only live at that specific house part time (3-4 nights per week). My Harman P-43 consumes 2 bags per 24 hours when heating during cold weather. However, that is completely heating a home that is over 3000 sq ft with no help! I set the temp to 75 degrees and the feed rate to 3 and never touch it. I originally bought the stove to heat just the finished basement but it worked so well I decided to open the doors and heat the upstairs with it as well. My stove is in a finished basement where I keep it at 75 degrees. The main living floor is usually around 66-67 degrees. The upstairs bedrooms are usually around 62 degrees. The home is only a few years old and very well insulated with spray on insulation and high quality low energy windows and doors. When I live there full time, I anticipate using 4 tons + of pellets per season and very little oil except for hot water. Last winter proved this could be done easily. The savings is dramatic over the oil burner. Dan __________________ It's Always Sunny On Welch Island!!

11-20-2014, 08:57 PM	#7
NHskier Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 294 Thanks: 45 Thanked 37 Times in 34 Posts	Hi Bigdog, We have the same insert as you, and have been running it for the past week with the colder weather. Running at a setting of about 4 we use roughly one bag per day. I go 3-4 days between full cleanings. The ash pot will fill up before the side areas though the air throughput will also affect how quickly that happens. Softwood pellets will produce more heat but burn faster than hardwood so it's a bit of a trade-off. __________________ NHskier

12-20-2014, 11:50 AM	#10
bigdog Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Central MA-Gilford Posts: 1,452 Thanks: 347 Thanked 124 Times in 98 Posts	Wood Pellets - NHSkier? To NHSkier..... Sent you a PM please read. Thanks, Bigdog

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bigdog Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Central MA-Gilford Posts: 1,452 Thanks: 347 Thanked 124 Times in 98 Posts	I'm a first time owner of a pellet stove, a Napleaon NPI45. I'm impressed with the heat output, however, somewhat disappointed with the volumn of pellets being consumed by this stove. I'm running the stove on 'manual' mode, as I don't have a separate thermostat connected which would enable me to run by temperature setting. However, I can control the auger feed rate, which I have set at minimum. The auger appears tp be feeding pellets at the rate of 10-11 second intervals. Napolean service rep. says that's about correct ! It's really hasn't been cold lately, and the stove is consuming a lot of pellets each day? Not sure what the average pellet consumption is suppose to be, but have read owner's manual which says you can get 30+ hr burn with 1 bag of pellets. Have contacted Naploean directly, and they don't provide much support! iShoot308 posted "he was on his 22nd bag of Green SUPREME pellets this year and did the first stove cleaning". I find that simply AMAZING !" Also, I have to clean out the burnpot out daily, and the firebox after about 3-4 bags burned. Cleaning the firebox is difficult, because there is no removable 'ash drawer'. One has to shutdown the stove, and vac. out internal parts. FYI, I burned 2 bags of 'Green Supreme' from Lowes' and really liked them. That experience, and with the recommnedations of others, I ordered 1 ton of N.E. Pellets, figuring that both brands were mad by the same company. N.E. is made in Jaffrey and another location in NY. Not sure how you would tell where made, but saw posting on other Forums' that the pellets made in NY. were not the same quality as NH made. and folks were complaining. The N.E. pellets IMHO are inferior to the Green Supreme. They appear to be throwing lots of ash, and I have to clean the stove almost daily. Not good ! At the rate the stove is consuming pellets, my 1 ton isn't going to last too long. Think I'll burn oil for now and save the pellets for Jan-Feb when it gets really cold. Going out to Hearth.com as Blue Thunder suggested for more info. Any feedback from Forum pellet stove owners is appreciated for this newbie ! Thanks, Bigdog

11-20-2014, 05:06 PM	#5
Slickcraft Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Welch Island and The Taylor Community Posts: 3,329 Thanks: 1,242 Thanked 2,118 Times in 968 Posts	BD, In 6 years of burning pellets I average 190 bags a heating season. The stove runs full time in the heating season, fully heating the 1st floor and helping on the 2nd floor of a 2,100 sq ft house. I average about 1.25 bags per day, less on warmer days and more on cold days. The HarmAn P-43 runs on a thermostat setting keeping the 1st floor at 72. I burn about 600 gal of oil less than when it was oil heat only. At today's price of oil at about $3/gal, that would be about $1,800 less in oil cost. This year I paid $239/ton for pellets so 190 bags would be 3.8 ton or $908. My conclusion is that even with pellet prices up and oil price down this year, I am still ahead burning pellets. Besides, we like the feel of the stove heat in the LR. BTW, I used to have a top feed pellet stove that needed cleaning once a day. So I really like the P-43 every 2 weeks cleaning cycle.

11-20-2014, 05:29 PM	#6
bigdog Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Central MA-Gilford Posts: 1,452 Thanks: 347 Thanked 124 Times in 98 Posts	Thanks Slickcraft and iShoot308 for your feedback, greatly appreciated ! I hear a theme hear..... Harmon P-43....... I would have purchased a free-standing stove, but we wanted a fireplace insert model, for the asthetics.... Maybe should have thought that out more for various reasons, especially the loading door access. Stove is located in Family room, at one of house, 2200 SF Colonial 15 yrs old, which was well insulated for it's time. Insualtion is typical Builder Owens roll insulation, didn't have an option. If I had to do again, would apply spray insulation, but that's a mute issue now..... Any thoughts about the pellets I'm buring? N.E. Pellets versus Green Supreme ? Have burned both with different results. Thanks, Bigdog

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12-07-2015, 10:06 PM	#11
Greene's Basin Girl Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Moultonborough, NH Posts: 1,515 Thanks: 394 Thanked 527 Times in 269 Posts	My sister is burning with Green Team Supreme Platinum this year and she really likes them. Of course she has not used them much because it has been so warm. I am wondering if anyone else is using them???