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dpg · 06-09-2016, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jeffk

Nope. Born, grown up, educated, and working in NH for the last 30 years. I am a transplant to NH as of 30 years ago.

Why?

I'm from Mass just thought I knew her. Knew someone who grew up in my town and moved to Moultonborough to teach. She did also marry someone from "up there" I believe.

Paugus bay girl · 10-16-2016, 12:43 AM

There are many kids today who simply don't want to work. I work in the food service industry, we have hired 4 young people in the past 4 weeks, and 2 of them only lasted a day, and another one didn't last the whole shift. They don't want to work once they see how much work it is. Its sad. They would rather live off the state.

thinkxingu · 10-16-2016, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Paugus bay girl

There are many kids today who simply don't want to work. I work in the food service industry, we have hired 4 young people in the past 4 weeks, and 2 of them only lasted a day, and another one didn't last the whole shift. They don't want to work once they see how much work it is. Its sad. They would rather live off the state.

Kids would rather "live off the state"?! That's ridiculous. What ages are these kids, what type of jobs are they, and what is the demographic?

As a high school teacher, easily 80% of my students work too much. 11 of my 14 advisory FRESHMEN are working at least three days a week.

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BroadHopper · 10-16-2016, 07:36 AM

Let's cut the chase. Demographics has a play here. The Lakes region area is becoming more of a retirement community. There is a shortage of young help to support the older population. Perhaps business should be more resilient and hire older help!

The 2.9% unemployment rate is based on the number collecting unemployment. The real unemployment rate no doubt is three or four times that.

rsmlp · 10-16-2016, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by thinkxingu

Kids would rather "live off the state"?! That's ridiculous. What ages are these kids, what type of jobs are they, and what is the demographic?

As a high school teacher, easily 80% of my students work too much. 11 of my 14 advisory FRESHMEN are working at least three days a week.

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Complete agreement. Saying that kids want to live off the state is a BS generalization. THINK before you write.

ishoot308 · 10-16-2016, 08:42 AM

As a business owner who is constantly hiring help from entry level to upper management positions, I can tell you our biggest issue is applicants passing the pre employment drug screening. 8 out of 10 applicants applying for entry level on the job training positions will not pass the pre screen drug test. This is no exaggeration! It's not just weed that is being picked up either but mainly opiates now. These entry level positions are mostly young people in their early twenty's who graduated high school and have no priorities whatsoever.

My company (non lake region) offers 80% paid health insurance, 401-k, holiday and vacation pay as well as other perks not available at many other businesses that have entry level positions. We have all but given up on entry level applicants and now rely on employment agencies such as trade source to filll our needs. It's unfortunate but for us that is what it has come to...

I completely understand Paugus Bay Girl's frustration as I see it and live it every day...

Dan

8gv · 10-16-2016, 09:12 AM

I was an entry level employer for my entire career.

From what I have experienced, there is truth in each of the positions poated here.

Some young folks, educated or not, are hard working and ambitious. Others lack effort and initiative. There are also the ones who are emotionally unstable and will self destruct with the smallest amount of stress.

I am happy to be retired here rather than trying to staff a patch of restaurants.

My gig was in an area with plenty of potential employees from which I could choose suitable candidates.

The age of the population here and the seasonal sales peak are two challenges I am happy not to have to endure.

noreast · 10-16-2016, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 8gv

I was an entry level employer for my entire career.

From what I have experienced, there is truth in each of the positions poated here.

Some young folks, educated or not, are hard working and ambitious. Others lack effort and initiative. There are also the ones who are emotionally unstable and will self destruct with the smallest amount of stress.

I am happy to be retired here rather than trying to staff a patch of restaurants.

My gig was in an area with plenty of potential employees from which I could choose suitable candidates.

The age of the population here and the seasonal sales peak are two challenges I am happy not to have to endure.

Bingo, It's nearly Impossible to get good entry level young help. Unemployment is so low around here that whats left are the ones who don't want to work, Or realize they can make almost as much by not working. I think It's a small percent but seems much larger due to the relatively low # actually looking for a job. Every kid I know personally under 30 work very hard, mostly still in school as well, but to contrast that, Those I only know through work that are Entry level are not willing or able to keep a job for any amount of time, And yes, they are mostly consuming opiates unfortunately. Entry level is brutal right now, and enormously Important to a small business. It's to easy to stereotype a group when it's really a tiny % that we're talking about "entry level", And I don't know where any previous generation would be if these opiates were as cheap and readily available as they are today. And by the way, The Gov war on drugs is as backwards as ever, DEA recently announced it's intentions to make Kratom a schedule 1 substance, On par with Heroin, When anyone with knowledge would tell you It may be the best way to get these kids of opiates. It seems it's a move to placate the Pharmaceutical company's, But that's a whole other thread.

Greene's Basin Girl · 10-19-2016, 12:13 PM

I would try to line up a job for the following summer at the end of the previous summer. It was very difficult to find a job in the area back in the 60's and70's. Our son graduated from Moultonborough Academy in 2006. He and most of his friends went off to college and have never returned to live in the Lakes Region. Many of them prefer living in an urban area after growing up in such a small town.

MeredithMan · 10-19-2016, 02:31 PM

My daughter is a junior in college, (nursing). Summer 2016 and Summer 2015 she worked in one of the area's beach bar/restaurants. She worked hard there her first year and was great with customers, so the place told her they wanted her back this past summer, and she happily took the job again. She had a number of days of making several hundred bucks in tips, (made almost a grand Labor Day weekend). She's a worker....does whatever needs to be done and is smiling and pleasant to the customers.

However, she had a number of co-workers both summers who were canned not long after being hired because they were either lazy, surly, and/or made dumb mistakes over and over again. Note that these were both college-age kids as well as some adults. My daughter and some of the other good workers would try to coach these folks before they got the boot, but to no avail. Note also that this past summer, she had an adult co-worker who was great at serving customers but that was her career....it wasn't just a summer job and she made a point to educate my daughter and the other "kids" how very difficult it is to get by in life with just an entry-level job.

Descant · 10-19-2016, 03:04 PM

MeredithMan: Sounds like your daughter will be successful at everything. Good for her. Restaurant work of any kind is not easy, and some people are just not up to it. A good restaurant worker can do anything in life. I'm happy for a couple summers experience.

ApS · 02-22-2017, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Paugus bay girl

There are many kids today who simply don't want to work. I work in the food service industry, we have hired 4 young people in the past 4 weeks, and 2 of them only lasted a day, and another one didn't last the whole shift. They don't want to work once they see how much work it is. Its sad. They would rather live off the state.

I got a chuckle when a plumber handed me this business card:

10-16-2016, 07:36 AM	#4
BroadHopper Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Laconia NH Posts: 5,572 Thanks: 3,209 Thanked 1,101 Times in 793 Posts	Demographics Let's cut the chase. Demographics has a play here. The Lakes region area is becoming more of a retirement community. There is a shortage of young help to support the older population. Perhaps business should be more resilient and hire older help! The 2.9% unemployment rate is based on the number collecting unemployment. The real unemployment rate no doubt is three or four times that. __________________ Someday may never be an actual day.

10-16-2016, 08:42 AM	#6
ishoot308 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Gilford, NH / Welch Island Posts: 6,243 Thanks: 2,389 Thanked 5,282 Times in 2,054 Posts	Not Only A Lakes Region Issue As a business owner who is constantly hiring help from entry level to upper management positions, I can tell you our biggest issue is applicants passing the pre employment drug screening. 8 out of 10 applicants applying for entry level on the job training positions will not pass the pre screen drug test. This is no exaggeration! It's not just weed that is being picked up either but mainly opiates now. These entry level positions are mostly young people in their early twenty's who graduated high school and have no priorities whatsoever. My company (non lake region) offers 80% paid health insurance, 401-k, holiday and vacation pay as well as other perks not available at many other businesses that have entry level positions. We have all but given up on entry level applicants and now rely on employment agencies such as trade source to filll our needs. It's unfortunate but for us that is what it has come to... I completely understand Paugus Bay Girl's frustration as I see it and live it every day... Dan __________________ It's Always Sunny On Welch Island!!

10-19-2016, 02:31 PM	#10
MeredithMan Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Bedford, NH; Meredith, NH Posts: 947 Thanks: 262 Thanked 812 Times in 331 Posts	One person's observation.... My daughter is a junior in college, (nursing). Summer 2016 and Summer 2015 she worked in one of the area's beach bar/restaurants. She worked hard there her first year and was great with customers, so the place told her they wanted her back this past summer, and she happily took the job again. She had a number of days of making several hundred bucks in tips, (made almost a grand Labor Day weekend). She's a worker....does whatever needs to be done and is smiling and pleasant to the customers. However, she had a number of co-workers both summers who were canned not long after being hired because they were either lazy, surly, and/or made dumb mistakes over and over again. Note that these were both college-age kids as well as some adults. My daughter and some of the other good workers would try to coach these folks before they got the boot, but to no avail. Note also that this past summer, she had an adult co-worker who was great at serving customers but that was her career....it wasn't just a summer job and she made a point to educate my daughter and the other "kids" how very difficult it is to get by in life with just an entry-level job.

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10-16-2016, 12:43 AM	#2
Paugus bay girl Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 47 Thanks: 2 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	There are many kids today who simply don't want to work. I work in the food service industry, we have hired 4 young people in the past 4 weeks, and 2 of them only lasted a day, and another one didn't last the whole shift. They don't want to work once they see how much work it is. Its sad. They would rather live off the state.

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10-16-2016, 09:12 AM	#7
8gv Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 2,093 Thanks: 64 Thanked 744 Times in 478 Posts	I was an entry level employer for my entire career. From what I have experienced, there is truth in each of the positions poated here. Some young folks, educated or not, are hard working and ambitious. Others lack effort and initiative. There are also the ones who are emotionally unstable and will self destruct with the smallest amount of stress. I am happy to be retired here rather than trying to staff a patch of restaurants. My gig was in an area with plenty of potential employees from which I could choose suitable candidates. The age of the population here and the seasonal sales peak are two challenges I am happy not to have to endure.

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Greene's Basin Girl Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Moultonborough, NH Posts: 1,515 Thanks: 394 Thanked 527 Times in 269 Posts	I would try to line up a job for the following summer at the end of the previous summer. It was very difficult to find a job in the area back in the 60's and70's. Our son graduated from Moultonborough Academy in 2006. He and most of his friends went off to college and have never returned to live in the Lakes Region. Many of them prefer living in an urban area after growing up in such a small town.

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Descant Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Merrimack and Welch Island Posts: 4,354 Thanks: 1,342 Thanked 1,623 Times in 1,055 Posts	MeredithMan: Sounds like your daughter will be successful at everything. Good for her. Restaurant work of any kind is not easy, and some people are just not up to it. A good restaurant worker can do anything in life. I'm happy for a couple summers experience.

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