Springfield Cove NRZ Hearing

[NH_boater]

Never anchored there. I will now. I look for NRZ as indicators of good places to anchor and hang out all day. I expect others do the same. I hope it does not get too crowded now.

[Jt Travers]

I will include in the following post a letter of dissent in regards to the petition. I would appreciate any proof reading. Otherwise, I recommend that everyone who agrees put your name and street address at the bottom and send it to the email address provided in the hearing notice. Alternatively, I will accept any signatures and submit a copy from any group to who this is preferred. I hope to attend the hearing on behalf of the "the group", but would welcome anyone else who could attend to join me or to take my place if needed.


Thanks

Jt

[Jt Travers]

Attorney Christopher Casko
Department of Safety
Bureau of Hearings
33 Hazen Drive
Concord NH, 03305



We, the undersigned, are writing in opposition to a petition to prohibit and / or restrict rafting of boats on Lake Winnipesaukee in Springfield Cove. Please accept this document as our testimony at the hearing to be held on the matter. We anticipate having a representative present to represent our dissenting opinion, but in any event we request this document with the facts and opinions herein be included in the record.

The petitioners state that they are requesting the creation of a “no rafting zone” based on a “claim that rafting poses a pollution risk and safety hazard,” yet the petitioners have dedicated a total of two sentences in their petition to these issues. In regards to the pollution risk, the petitioners have made claim that “warm water and fertile sediment provide ideal conditions for milfoil” and that “repeated dropping and hauling of anchors” enhances the spread of milfoil. The petitioners have failed to provide any evidence to support this claim. They have not provided any data to indicate that the water in “Springfield Cove” is any warmer, more fertile, or in any way more susceptible to milfoil contamination than any other part of the lake. The petitioners have also failed to provide any evidence that the use of anchors increases this contamination. In fact, their request for the creation of a “no rafting zone” would increase the use of anchors. The act of rafting involves multiple boats being tied to each other with one pair of anchor points. The creation of a “no rafting zone” would require each boat to drop its’ own pair of anchors. The petitioners have implied that the creation of a “no rafting zone” would stop the spread of milfoil on the lake, yet the New Hampshire Department of Environmental Services (NHDES) investigated the issue of milfoil contamination on the lake and made no recommendations for the creation of a “no rafting zone”. The NHDES states that milfoil is spread to an area by wind and currents. The petitioners have provided no evidence of milfoil contamination in “Springfield Cove,” and have not shown enough concern to implement any of the recommendations of the NHDES, including hand removal and the appointing of a neighborhood weed watcher. It seems clear that the petitioners are less concerned about this pollution as they are about their personal complaints, which should be addressed with law enforcement and not by petitioning for the creation of this “no rafting zone”.

In support of their claim of “safety concerns,” the petitioners have stated, “children from the boats swim and dive.” They indicate that “markers” are needed to indicate “where the swimmers are located.” Perhaps the petitioners would like all swimmers on the lake to where strobe lights, but this has nothing to do with the creation of a “no rafting zone.” Whether or not there is a “no rafting zone,” swimmers will continue to be able to swim and dive in the lake. The only change would be allowing boats to tie off to each other, or to anchor separately.

In stark contrast to the two sentences provided as evidence in support of the petitioners’ claim of “a pollution risk and safety hazard,” they have dedicated considerable time to their personal opinions, which have no bearing on a “no rafting zone” petition. They refer to area boaters as “rafters,” but have not directly claimed or provided evidence that anyone is actually rafting in the area. The petitioners have dedicated four sentences to littering. They provide great specifics, counting the exact number of cans, bottles, and bags of chips they picked up on July 5th of an unspecified year. The petitioners have not provided evidence of, or even claimed that this is related to boating. Irrelevant of this, the creation of a “no rafting zone” has no impact on laws prohibiting littering. We stand firmly with the petitioners that littering on the lake is illegal, and should be dealt with by the Police, both on and off the water.

The petitioners have referenced a problem with “noise” of the lake, which again has no connection to whether or not boaters are tied to each other or anchored separately. We believe that if a boaters is creating such a noise as to disturb the peace that it should also be reported to the police. The petitioners have stopped short of this, instead complaining about “conversation.” The petitioners have also made claims about a swimmer in the area being on a neighbors raft, yet no report was made to the police department, nor did the owner engage the swimmer to let him or her know that they may be on private property. The petitioners also complain about “rafters repeatedly looking through house windows with binoculars and cameras,” yet they have again made no complaint to the Police Department. They also take this complaint one step further, saying that they are “subject to being filmed.” We would again argue that none of this has anything to do with the creation of a “no rafting zone.” Finally, the petitioners claim that “The Wolfeboro Police Department has documented nude sexual acts in the cove…” yet the petitioners have not attached a copy of such documentation. The claims of one person versus incidents being witnessed by a police officer are two very different things, but neither has anything to do with the creation of a “no rafting zone”. An incident such as this would have to be addressed by a court as to whether there was an expectation of privacy, and whether any such incident had actually occurred.


In conclusion, the petitioners state, “Some modicum of respect and distance to protect the property owners and minimize pollution is all we ask” yet it is in fact not all they ask. They are specifically asking for the creation of a “no rafting zone” for issues that have nothing to do with rafting.

To more directly address the issues raised pursuant to RSA 270:43, we submit the following:

(1) At its widest point, the cove is 1176.1 feet, three times the “almost 400 feet” claimed by the petitioners. The length of the cove is at least 2381.5 feet. At its narrowest point, the islet to the East Southeast is 147 feet. A review of historical maps of Lake Winnipesaukee does not show Worcester Island being connected to the mainland. It appears the existence of this cove is due only to the land bridge serving Worcester Island. We would argue that the creation of this land bridge would have been allowed on the condition that it not further infringe on the rights of others. We believe any such documents need to be located and reviewed before any action on this petition could be considered.

(2) (A) No evidence has been presented that would indicate there would be any increase in public safety. Public safety on the lake as a whole would be negatively effected by adopting the proposed no rafting zone, as addressed in (4).

(B) The creation of a no rafting zone would have no effect on residential values. Creating a no rafting zone has the potential to negatively effect the recreational value of the area. Multiple people have reported this is a great place for kids to fish. There would be no positive effect on the scenic value of the area by creating a no rafting zone. The negative effects would hypothetical.

(C) The adoption of the proposed rule would have no positive effect on the variety of uses of the lake or the cove.

(D) There is no evidence that the adoption of the proposed rule would positively impact the environment or the water quality. In fact, the arguments on this issue made by the petitioners are unsupported by, and in contrast to the findings of the NHDES.

(E) There is no evidence that the adoption of the proposed rule would affect threatened or endangered species. No evidence has been presented claim that any specific species of wildlife are even present in the cove.

(3) The number of persons positively impacted by the adoption of the proposed regulation is zero. The petitioners stated reasons for requesting the creation of a no rafting zone are not backed by any evidence, and are specifically refuted by the evidence. The additional complaints made in the petition are irrelevant to the creation of a no rafting zone. The number of people negatively affected by adopting the petition is unknown, but would be equal to the number of boaters who use the lake annually. This regulation, which in this case is unnecessary, would require every boater to be aware of the new regulations.

(4) Adopting the proposed rule would have not be practical from an enforcement standpoint. Based on the petitioners application, they do not understand the regulation they are requesting. This will result in numerous erroneous calls to the marine patrol, rather than reporting actual offenses to the appropriate agency. Responding to these “nuisance” calls, where the reported offense is not actually occurring, would negatively effect the public safety on the lake by placing an unnecessary reactive burden on marine patrol when they could be keeping all users of the lake safe through proactive patrols and enforcement of actual regulations.




Sincerely,

[AC2717]

it looks good to me, do you have the email address?

[Lakeboater]

Originally Posted by Jt Travers

I will include in the following post a letter of dissent in regards to the petition. I would appreciate any proof reading. Otherwise, I recommend that everyone who agrees put your name and street address at the bottom and send it to the email address provided in the hearing notice. Alternatively, I will accept any signatures and submit a copy from any group to who this is preferred. I hope to attend the hearing on behalf of the "the group", but would welcome anyone else who could attend to join me or to take my place if needed.


Thanks

Jt

The notice says that the hearing was to be held Monday June 13th.

[Rinkerguy]

The letter outlining an opposing opinion to the NRZ is great
Where do we sign our names?

Email Address, website, other???

[HellRaZoR004]

Your best bet at this point in time is to print out the letter above and hand sign it. Scan both the letter and any signatures and then send it to the following address:

EMAIL: [email protected]

MUST RECEIVE SUBMISSION OF WRITTEN MATERIAL MAILED OR EMAILED AND RECEIVED BEFORE 4:15 PM ON JUNE 21, 2016!!!

[Rich]

Minor edits:

this sentence again:

swimmers on the lake to where strobe lights

swimmers on the lake to wear strobe lights

AND

(4) Adopting the proposed rule would have not be practical from an enforcement standpoint

Should probably read:

(4) Adopting the proposed rule would not be practical from an enforcement standpoint



Since this letter says "We" all throughout, what's the best way to send it as a solo person, I guess I can edit it and just say "I" everywhere.

There were also a few "effect" vs "affect".

How did the meeting go? Anyone know?

[Rich]

I sent in an entry in as a single dissenter.

Thanks to Jt Travers for the inspiration.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by HellRaZoR004

Your best bet at this point in time is to print out the letter above and hand sign it. Scan both the letter and any signatures and then send it to the following address:

EMAIL: [email protected]

MUST RECEIVE SUBMISSION OF WRITTEN MATERIAL MAILED OR EMAILED AND RECEIVED BEFORE 4:15 PM ON JUNE 21, 2016!!!

May I ask where this submission deadline came from? I hope my letter is included.

[HellRaZoR004]

Originally Posted by Rich

May I ask where this submission deadline came from? I hope my letter is included.

Hi Rich. It was in the Notice of Hearing that the webmaster posted in the OP.

https://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/...ve-hearing.pdf

BTW - thanks for making updates. I'll print out mine, sign it and email it this afternoon.

[Rich]

Perfect!!

I hope they get the email and it doesn't get lost somehow.

Thanks!

[HellRaZoR004]

Just a reminder....

Letters / Emails must be received BEFORE 4:15 PM TODAY.

If you don't want to see our privilege to use this public resource erode then send in a letter objecting the petition. If you do nothing now, don't complain later.

[Pineedles]

So does anyone have any updates?

[HellRaZoR004]

I haven't seen anything. No updates posted on the site. I think these take a couple months.

[ishoot308]

While no boaters showed up for the hearing, the no rafting zone proposal in Springfield Cove was shot down. 6 people wrote letters and that seemed to make a difference...

If anyone wants a copy of the final order, PM me.

Dan

[Rich]

Thanks for the update.

Where are these results published?

Perhaps post your info here?

I wonder if any of us made a difference?

[ishoot308]

Here they are... I hope!

Dan

[HellRaZoR004]

That was a very well written Decision and Final Order. Thank you for providing the update.

This goes to show that if the community believes the petition doesn't have merit then it can and will be turned down.

To those that helped, thank you.