Loud Music from Boat

[ITD]

I'm always amazed at people who will come miles to be at a beautiful mostly serene place in the country, then make as much loud and obnoxious noise as possible with no regard for anyone but themselves. It's just a special class of people.

[AB_Monterey]

I once had a guy pull up 20 ft from me on a sand bar and crank up some country music. After a few songs, he yelled over to me, "The best thing about country music is that no one minds if you play it really loud."

I looked back at him and said, "What?".

He repeated. I repeated.

It took 3 rounds before he finally got the message.



Believe it or not, most people don't want to hear what you're playing.

Once we are anchored, one of us will usually walk out about 20 feet off the stern and see if we can hear our music. That's about as far as I want it to travel.

[SAMIAM]

Only music that should be allowed on the lake......Rolling Stones

[Winnisquamer]

Samiam I had a fisherman troll by and yell at me this weekend when I was listening to the stones... He yelled turn it up instead of turn it off!

[Donzi Minx]

From someone who was at the Stones concert in 1967 at Lynn Manning Bowl......

Cruised the lake for about 8 hours Sunday before heading back to Silver Sands,
and without saying too much about music being too loud, I will say there is lots of diversity.

My father Harvard Lawyer absolutely convulsed at Satisfaction which in 45RPM form, I wore out!

I really "do not enjoy" what my youngest blasts out on his I-phone, but as a boomer I will project some amount of tolerance.

If everyone liked only Vanilla life would be pretty lackluster!

[Orion]

Just about everyone has the ability to play and listen to music, if they want. So, if they' not playing music, it's highly unlikely they want to listen to YOUR music, even in the remote chance it's music they like since it will sound crappy from a distance. Sometimes people just want to listen to the sounds of the lake, and that will offend nobody.

[radiocontester]

I don't think landowners have an issue with a majority of boaters who, like me, play music through stock speakers mounted within the boat playing at reasonable (comfortable) levels. My hunch is that the issue is with those boats with speakers mounted on a tower that projects back towards the skier/wake boarder/tuber etc. It's obvious that in order for someone riding the water to hear the music over the noise of the engine the volume would have to be pretty loud. If you are a resident you will no doubt hear the music blaring as the orientation of the tower mounted speakers are pointed in your direction. I'm not sure this will ever be solved......but it sure makes for an entertaining thread.

[noreast]

Some of the newer pontoons have state of the art systems. With the positioning of the speakers, and the play pen, you don't have to pound on the amp to get that Bose quality sound. I still tell my kids to SHUT IT OFF!

[garysanfran]

Your prerogative and you won't be forcing your obnoxious behavior on any one else.

I installed a very nice system in my boat 8 yrs. ago. I have listened to it twice. I like the sounds of the lake. I was a music critic for The Boston Globe a few years back, so I like music...just not while I am boating.

[TiltonBB]

Originally Posted by radiocontester

I don't think landowners have an issue with a majority of boaters who, like me, play music through stock speakers mounted within the boat playing at reasonable (comfortable) levels. My hunch is that the issue is with those boats with speakers mounted on a tower that projects back towards the skier/wake boarder/tuber etc. It's obvious that in order for someone riding the water to hear the music over the noise of the engine the volume would have to be pretty loud. If you are a resident you will no doubt hear the music blaring as the orientation of the tower mounted speakers are pointed in your direction. I'm not sure this will ever be solved......but it sure makes for an entertaining thread.

I agree that the mounting and volume of the music being played are the critical factors. I rarely even notice the music played on a conventional boat with cockpit mounted speakers.

I do wonder if the boaters with the loud music from tower mounted speakers realize that they may be offending upwards of 100 families who just happen to enjoy the peace and relative quiet of their waterfront homes. At least when the loud exhaust boats go by the noise lasts for only a few seconds. When one of these wakeboard boats sets up to take 5 friends skiing in the area of your house you can count on your peace and quiet being disturbed for quite a while.

[MeredithMan]

So in reading through this thread, I've picked up on a couple of comments to the effect of, "the speakers on the towers facing backwards for the rider to hear the music..."

I have to say, this was an "aha" moment for me. I've seen a lot of the towers with the big speakers facing backwards, and I always wondered, "why the hell are the speakers on the tower and why are they facing backwards?"

Not in a million years would it have occurred to me it is so you can blast the tunes for the rider/skier to hear. Anyone else out of touch or am I the only one living under a rock...??

Wait....don't answer that....

[Woodsy]

Sorry but I have to laugh a little.

You buy property that abuts what is essentially a PUBLIC park then complain about how the PUBLIC exercises their RIGHT to use the park??? I get that these loud stereos are annoying.. (or loud anything for that matter). I get that people skiing in "YOUR" cove or bay can be unsettling (the horror). I get that people rafting up and having fun within "YOUR" view can be upsetting.

But...

You do not OWN the lake... the people of NH do. You do not have a RIGHT to peace and quiet..... unless its between 10pm & 7am (on average) per town ordinances.

Relax! Let it go...


Woodsy

[Outdoorsman]

Originally Posted by Woodsy

You do not OWN the lake... the people of NH do. You do not have a RIGHT to peace and quiet..... unless its between 10pm & 7am (on average) per town ordinances.

Relax! Let it go...


Woodsy

You can not do it in a park either....

TITLE LXII
CRIMINAL CODE
CHAPTER 644
BREACHES OF THE PEACE AND RELATED OFFENSES
Section 644:2

III (a) Making loud or unreasonable noises in a public place, or making loud or unreasonable noises in a private place which can be heard in a public place or other private places, which noises would disturb a person of average sensibilities


RSA 644:2 Disorderly Conduct - NH General Court

[Woodsy]

Good luck getting that enforced for a loud stereo during the day...

[Boater]

I've always remembered a line from an old movie where one of the characters defined a Gentleman as someone who always put the comfort of those around him ahead of his own. After reading this forum for over 10 years it's obvious that many people just don't think that way.

[noreast]

There once was a teen from the Big Lake. For a boat, dads money he did take. He cranked up the tunes, Scared all the Loons, Lawyers screamed "Affluenza for God's sake"!

[Descant]

Under the theme of "Live Free or Die" I hesitate to suggest new laws. But, if we regulate exhaust noise on motor vehicles and boats, why not apply the existing noise level restrictions to other sources of loud noises?

Am I correct that the surfer is far enough away that the sound is not too loud back there, and that it is not too loud in the boat when the speakers are aimed away?
Has anybody tried simply driving out when the surfer is between runs and pointing out the problem in a friendly sort of way?
I haven't seen many posts from wake surfers so I bet there aren't many on this forum to read about this situation.

[MAXUM]

I find it fascinating that all these kids/young adults of affluent people pump their heads full of that 'boom-chuck-a-luck-a' city ghetto rap as if what that stuff represents and lyrically speaks of is something to aspire to, admirable or somehow makes them a bad ass. Then again in today's day in age ignorance and uncivilized lawless behavior is something celebrated, condoned, even encouraged... and it will only get worse as we as a culture continue to allow the bar to be set lower and lower - all in the name of being PC and "tolerant" meanwhile civilized society as a whole fades off into oblivion.

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by MAXUM

I find it fascinating that all these kids/young adults of affluent people pump their heads full of that 'boom-chuck-a-luck-a' city ghetto rap as if what that stuff represents and lyrically speaks of is something to aspire to, admirable or somehow makes them a bad ass. Then again in today's day in age ignorance and uncivilized lawless behavior is something celebrated, condoned, even encouraged... and it will only get worse as we as a culture continue to allow the bar to be set lower and lower - all in the name of being PC and "tolerant" meanwhile civilized society as a whole fades off into oblivion.

Wow.

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[Winnisquamer]

I am a surfer and wakeboarder and my stereo is just simply not anyone else's concern. I wrote the check for the boat not anyone else on the lake so I will listen to it or drive it as loud or as fast as I want or am legally allowed too. Sounds harsh but lets get serious you really are worried about what everyone else thinks before you do things? And no on a 71sq mile lake its not common courtesy.

But, If you approached me politely or even semi respectfully and asked me to turn it down I would, ( 1 or 2 guys on the lake we see frequently skiing will pull up to us and ask us to leave so they can get some calm water runs in, and there is no issues there, we respect that because we are looking for the same thing) if you pulled up like the OP probably would based on his post I would probably tell you to pound sand. There are ways to approach each subject and I treat people the way they treat me.

Do I say to my self I shouldn't play my stereo because it might be loud? If its not too early in the AM No, but I don't want my neighbor mowing his lawn on Sunday mornings either but guess what that is life. Id rather see someone enjoying the lake pulling their kids around behind the boat listening to whatever they want and me not like it then be a miserable person sitting on my dock complaining about other people having fun using the things they worked hard for.

Other thing for tower speakers, if you say they project across the entire lake 360º you don't know what your talking about. If you get on either side of the boat you wont hear those rear facing speakers like you think. They are directed for a reason. You will hear them at 22MPH and 70 feet behind the boat if they're good speakers but not upfront in the bow.

My surf boat exhaust at surf speed is between 80-95db, 2750RPM, speakers at wakeboard speed and volume are at 115db. Loud yes, but you'd be surprised how quickly you don't hear them anymore when you lean outside of the wake.

The like 6 minute solo to Stairway to heaven literally blows your hair back.

Just some "edumacation" for you non surfing folks.

[noreast]

Originally Posted by Winnisquamer

I am a surfer and wakeboarder and my stereo is just simply not anyone else's concern. I wrote the check for the boat not anyone else on the lake so I will listen to it or drive it as loud or as fast as I want or am legally allowed too. Sounds harsh but lets get serious you really are worried about what everyone else thinks before you do things? And no on a 71sq mile lake its not common courtesy.

But, If you approached me politely or even semi respectfully and asked me to turn it down I would, ( 1 or 2 guys on the lake we see frequently skiing will pull up to us and ask us to leave so they can get some calm water runs in, and there is no issues there, we respect that because we are looking for the same thing) if you pulled up like the OP probably would based on his post I would probably tell you to pound sand. There are ways to approach each subject and I treat people the way they treat me.

Do I say to my self I shouldn't play my stereo because it might be loud? If its not too early in the AM No, but I don't want my neighbor mowing his lawn on Sunday mornings either but guess what that is life. Id rather see someone enjoying the lake pulling their kids around behind the boat listening to whatever they want and me not like it then be a miserable person sitting on my dock complaining about other people having fun using the things they worked hard for.

Other thing for tower speakers, if you say they project across the entire lake 360º you don't know what your talking about. If you get on either side of the boat you wont hear those rear facing speakers like you think. They are directed for a reason. You will hear them at 22MPH and 70 feet behind the boat if they're good speakers but not upfront in the bow.

My surf boat exhaust at surf speed is between 80-95db, 2750RPM, speakers at wakeboard speed and volume are at 115db. Loud yes, but you'd be surprised how quickly you don't hear them anymore when you lean outside of the wake.

The like 6 minute solo to Stairway to heaven literally blows your hair back.

Just some "edumacation" for you non surfing folks.

You can obviously do what you want, but It is others concern, simply because they have know choice in the matter. We have a neighbor here on our little street that cranks the music all weekend every weekend & whenever he's home during the week, outdoors mind you. Though he also has the right to do what he wants, everyone hates him. He's also what is known as white trash, It's an entire way of life to fit the label,but disrespect towards others, especially the one's you are around often, Is the #1 criteria for the label.

[ITD]

Originally Posted by Winnisquamer

I am a surfer and wakeboarder and my stereo is just simply not anyone else's concern. I wrote the check for the boat not anyone else on the lake so I will listen to it or drive it as loud or as fast as I want or am legally allowed too. Sounds harsh but lets get serious you really are worried about what everyone else thinks before you do things? And no on a 71sq mile lake its not common courtesy.

But, If you approached me politely or even semi respectfully and asked me to turn it down I would, ( 1 or 2 guys on the lake we see frequently skiing will pull up to us and ask us to leave so they can get some calm water runs in, and there is no issues there, we respect that because we are looking for the same thing) if you pulled up like the OP probably would based on his post I would probably tell you to pound sand. There are ways to approach each subject and I treat people the way they treat me.

Do I say to my self I shouldn't play my stereo because it might be loud? If its not too early in the AM No, but I don't want my neighbor mowing his lawn on Sunday mornings either but guess what that is life. Id rather see someone enjoying the lake pulling their kids around behind the boat listening to whatever they want and me not like it then be a miserable person sitting on my dock complaining about other people having fun using the things they worked hard for.

Other thing for tower speakers, if you say they project across the entire lake 360º you don't know what your talking about. If you get on either side of the boat you wont hear those rear facing speakers like you think. They are directed for a reason. You will hear them at 22MPH and 70 feet behind the boat if they're good speakers but not upfront in the bow.

My surf boat exhaust at surf speed is between 80-95db, 2750RPM, speakers at wakeboard speed and volume are at 115db. Loud yes, but you'd be surprised how quickly you don't hear them anymore when you lean outside of the wake.

The like 6 minute solo to Stairway to heaven literally blows your hair back.

Just some "edumacation" for you non surfing folks.

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhh? Can't hear you.

[Reilly]

Thought I was the only one around who was there also Beatles in Revere

Originally Posted by Donzi Minx

From someone who was at the Stones concert in 1967 at Lynn Manning Bowl......

Cruised the lake for about 8 hours Sunday before heading back to Silver Sands,
and without saying too much about music being too loud, I will say there is lots of diversity.

My father Harvard Lawyer absolutely convulsed at Satisfaction which in 45RPM form, I wore out!

I really "do not enjoy" what my youngest blasts out on his I-phone, but as a boomer I will project some amount of tolerance.

If everyone liked only Vanilla life would be pretty lackluster!

[hig]

Originally Posted by ITD

I'm always amazed at people who will come miles to be at a beautiful mostly serene place in the country, then make as much loud and obnoxious noise as possible with no regard for anyone but themselves. It's just a special class of people.

You want serene, winnie is really not the lake for you any more.

[ITD]

Originally Posted by hig

You want serene, winnie is really not the lake for you any more.

You have no idea what I want. Big difference between busy and obnoxious.

It's very easy to identify the entitled snowflakes around here.

[hig]

Originally Posted by ITD

You have no idea what I want.

Calm yourself. You yourself said you wanted serene. Winnie is no longer serene. Just saying.

[DUSTOFF]

We bought a boat that happens to have a wakeboard tower and speakers on it. (I would have been happy without them, but got a great deal on this particular boat.)
I was tubing during one of our first trips out and I had my wife turn it up so I could hear it. Pretty cool!
Unfortunately I was raised with a sense of decency and common courtesy, so once I realized how loud it was from that distance, I disconnected the wires to the tower speakers. I can't in good conscience blast my music to the entire lake and shoreline.

Can I legally do it? Maybe...?
Would I feel like a disrespectful @$$**** doing it? Absolutely.

[ApS]

Some of us have retained their hearing...

So here we are, with the newest engines being manufactured to be quiet.

Originally Posted by Donzi Minx

From someone who was at the Stones concert in 1967 at Lynn Manning Bowl...... Cruised the lake for about 8 hours Sunday before heading back to Silver Sands, and without saying too much about music being too loud, I will say there is lots of diversity. My father Harvard Lawyer absolutely convulsed at Satisfaction which in 45RPM form, I wore out!
I really "do not enjoy" what my youngest blasts out on his I-phone, but as a boomer I will project some amount of tolerance. If everyone liked only Vanilla life would be pretty lackluster!

"Five flavors reigned supreme across the nation: Vanilla (of course)..."

"Lackluster" describes the vast majority of Winnipesaukee boaters, who don't blast their highly-objectionable lyrics to everyone within hearing distance.

Which include sailors, who much prefer the sounds of water lapping at the hull and the calls of Nature's creatures.

Originally Posted by hig

Calm yourself. You yourself said you wanted serene. Winnie is no longer serene. Just saying.

"Winnie" is serene, but you have to get up before 10-AM.

[hig]

Originally Posted by ApS

"Winnie" is serene, but you have to get up before 10-AM.

During the week maybe. The wakesurfers and skiers start around 8am where I am.

My point is that Winnipesaukee has changed. It is a very busy, noisy lake. And it will likely get worse since it attracts people looking for "lively"; people that are looking for serene will buy elsewhere. There are plenty of other lakes that are serene.

So you have a choice. Let it spoil your enjoyment and get bitter, or find a better fit for what you are looking for. Complaining on here won't fix it, the cat is well out of the bag. It will never be the lake that it was.

[SIKSUKR]

Damn.This has nothing to do with Winni being a "serene" lake or not.My comment goes for anywhere one happens to be.Its called comman courtesy.I would never force others to listen to "my" music,whatever that may be.Should I have to turn mine up to overcome yours or should I have to put earplugs in if I dont want to hear yours?No.If you need to hear loud music then put stinking earbuds in YOUR ears and blast away.Jeez,try thinking about others instead just yourselves.

[SAB1]

Winni still offers plenty of serene. Pretty much from Labor day through May there is plenty of it. While I agree with others that loud music is not needed and people should exercise a bit of caution/respect.........summer brings alot of fun and noise. If you haven't lived near one of the many camps on the lake you haven't experienced the counselors skiing at 6am before the campers get up, or the bugles at 7am waking the kids, its just all part of it and realistically it only a couple months of the year. Personally I'm a bit more concerned with all the weeds I see growing in the lake that weren't there before and all the geese that invading the lake.

[noreast]

^^^^You're right, But we can be aggravated by more than 1 thing at a time.

[rick35]

How about barking dogs? People in the next cove go out and leave their dog home. And it barks constantly. Another case of no consideration.

[NoBozo]

I guess many of you posters are just ..WELL...under fifty. I am 75 and remember there were statutes back in the day called .."Disturbing The Peace." That covered it.

You didn't need any Specific statute for loud parties, loud noise in your yard during a BBQ, a brawl on the Wolfeboro docks, wake boarding, or speakers on a boat.

Enforce the statutes that are On The Books...?? YUP.. Just Dreaming... NB

[SAB1]

Well I'm not 75 but turning 53 tomorrow and I do agree with you nobozo. Society has certainly changed and not for the better Imo. People just don't respect each other any more and Imo its parenting. When you and I grew up we learned to respect people and learned right from wrong. If you didn't you got your ass warmed up by dad. Now a days dad goes to jail for that. You never mouthed off to a cop either or you got your due.......from him or dad 5 min after he picked you up. Sorry to digress.....

[VitaBene]

There are many examples of a lack of common courtesy above and in other threads on this forum.

I know I don't always succeed , but I try to live by the golden rule... "Do not do to others that which angers you when they do it to you." – Isocrates (436–338 BC)