Senate scuttlebutt?

[Fat Jack]

I guess I just don't get your point. Are you saying that Kerry really won? Are you saying that all the pollsters got it right or they got it wrong? I guess just can't follow you on this. Let's move this discussion over to another thread...this thread is about the speed limit poll and it is just getting way off course. I'll concede that Kerry won if it will get you to drop it.

[ITD]

Originally Posted by Fat Jack

I guess I just don't get your point. Are you saying that Kerry really won? Are you saying that all the pollsters got it right or they got it wrong? I guess just can't follow you on this. Let's move this discussion over to another thread...this thread is about the speed limit poll and it is just getting way off course. I'll concede that Kerry won if it will get you to drop it.

Here's the point Jack, and it is very relevant to the speed limit discussion:

Your give your link as proof polls are accurate, specifically your ARG company.

I go to your link an discover the example you give as accurate was in fact not accurate, the link shows Kerry (the guy who lost the election) as the guy who will win.

I point this out to you but you refuse to acknowledge that your example does not support your claim, you say something about looking at the colors (meaningless) rather than looking at the data (in this case EC votes, which elect a president).

Kerry lost Jack, the "poll" you cited showed he would win and you didn't see that. That's the point, makes me wonder about your speed limit data.

[Lakegeezer]

We know politicians lie to get the vote. It works. They have won elections that way. The poll referred to here is based on similar actions. There was a well funded political action committee that used its money to lobby for the bill to be passed. It "educated" the non-boaters in the state, then took a poll which measured the success of its education program. Notice how there are no poll statistics from before the education process. Voters were educated on the danger of speed, and the Littlefield case was always mentioned. It was a smear campaign. Not about a person, but about an idea. Apparently targeted towards women too. That audience represents a generally less aware the facts about how boats can safely go over 45 safely, and can more easily be swayed by a campaign based on fear. They won the house vote. We can only hope the sentate is wise to the ways of political games and votes to represent the boaters of the state - those who know the facts.