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Old 04-20-2017, 12:58 PM   #1
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I just finished a DES permit for minimal changes. I won't sugar coat it, the permit is time consuming. It took my wife and I several hours to complete as there are portions you have to send to the DHR (NH Division of Historical Resources), maps and plans you need to create, and in our case four copies needed to be submitted to the town (Alton) conservation commission for their consideration. After the town approves it (hopefully) we then send the final copy to Concord for approval.

Let me note that we are removing a manmade object (old crib dock) from the lake, NOT building anything new. Good Luck
Wow! Talk about red tape! Too bad such regulations are in place to hinder a project that actually, enhances the lake..."live free or die" not.
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Old 04-20-2017, 01:17 PM   #2
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Wow, as someone said in another thread, you can't remove things from the lake without a lot of paperwork and permits, but it's ok for people to leave trash on the ice that ends up on the bottom of the lake every spring.
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Old 04-20-2017, 01:26 PM   #3
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Did you check to see if the repairs could be handled under Permit By Notification? It may be worth a call into the state. If you have to go through a full permit process, kiss the summer good bye. Being that its your only dock, and that you are on an island and need it as your only access you may be able to work something out with DES.

Otherwise make it go away in the dark of night, and do a PBN for a single finger seasonal liftout.
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Old 04-20-2017, 07:39 PM   #4
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Bearly There, I sent you a private message, I have an aluminum frame dock that I am selling, it is 6'x40'
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Old 04-25-2017, 10:18 AM   #5
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Question .... it's a dock in a box .... omg!

Homedepot.com has do-it-yourself dock builder kits, same as Walmart.com and shows the PlayStar, and MultiNautic brands. Basically, the kit in a cardboard box gets shipped free to a nearby store, and you complete the dock project with deck lumber purchased locally ........ like wow ......what a 21st century, do-it-yourself concept ...... a dock in a box ..... omg!

I just ordered two of the PlayStar $8.49-each galv finish base plates that fit either a 1 5/8" or 1 7/8" diameter pipe leg support, and look forward to doing this repair in 40-degree water, five foot depth, while holding my breath........ weeeeoooooooo!

My aluminum dock is soooooo ooooold .....it looks a lot like a 1936 DC-3 airplane ...... what with many, many, many aluminum rivets holding it together!

Man-o-man ......last spring I gave up on finding a similar base plate and ended up making six homemade baseplates with a mitre saw, drill and 2x6" pressure treated lumber and a 1/4 x 4" stainless bolt .....and they actually seem to be standing up good.....yikes!
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.... slightly off-topic, but what the heck: If you are a large sized adult, such as myself, then you may be interested to know that Walmart.com has Stearn's pfd's, blue or red, adult over-sized size, USCG-approved, for the bargain basement price of 9.94-each ...... this is a high quality and a low price.
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Homedepot.com has do-it-yourself dock builder kits, same as Walmart.com and shows the PlayStar, and MultiNautic brands. Basically, the kit in a cardboard box gets shipped free to a nearby store, and you complete the dock project with deck lumber purchased locally ........ like wow ......what a 21st century, do-it-yourself concept ...... a dock in a box ..... omg!

I just ordered two of the PlayStar $8.49-each galv finish base plates that fit either a 1 5/8" or 1 7/8" diameter pipe leg support, and look forward to doing this repair in 40-degree water, five foot depth, while holding my breath........ weeeeoooooooo!
Those dock sections that the box stores sell are light duty, not something you can expect to take any kind of serious use or actually tie a boat to unless it were on a small pond and a small boat. They are rickety as heck too but that should not come as a surprise as you look at the way the way and amount of surface the legs have to connect to the horizontal platform. The good docks tend to have a cross braced sub structure that allows for two well spaced capture points for the leg supports. Then again you get what you pay for. Guess it all comes down to what you're going to use it for.

I find it hard to believe that with all the places that either sell or make docks around the lake you cannot find parts for what you got - it's not as if those posts and pads are that unique. In fact Heath's Hardware store in Ctr Harbor has a whole selection of parts that are reasonably priced.
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I find it hard to believe that with all the places that either sell or make docks around the lake you cannot find parts for what you got -
If it is not at WalMart in Plymouth or available with multi-colored noodles wrapped around it.... FLL will not know about it.
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If it is not at WalMart in Plymouth or available with multi-colored noodles wrapped around it.... FLL will not know about it.
Heath's Hardware also sells noodles in a wider variety of colors.... come on what could be more tempting than that?!?
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While installing my dock last weekend, I lost one of the vinyl caps that sets atop a 2" diameter support leg ...... probably, it's now resting somewhere at ten foot depth ...... and will turn up in summer with a snorkel search.

Anyway, Heaths' Hdwe had the vinyl post cap, and I bought it for 4.99/one.

Lo and behold, cross my heart and hope to die, and shoot me dead if I am lying here ...... the Walmart.com PlayStar page shows the identical item as a four pack/2.99 ...... Lord have mercy! ...... and, I already painted the one for 4.99, so I cannot return it back to Heaths' .......... amen and boo-hoo.
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You could perform the stunt that my GF's sister would do.

She'd buy the cheaper 4 pack, break it apart, and return it, four times, to the place that had the higher price.

Oh, maybe I shouldn't teach you her stunts!

As it is, she doesn't like to talk to me much anymore, as I am always calling her out on how illegal and unethical many of her stunts are.
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Heath's Hardware also sells noodles in a wider variety of colors.... come on what could be more tempting than that?!?
But what about ski belts? Can't forget his love for those!
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Best to support your local retail hardware store, and be a good faithful customer, as much as one can afford. Maybe not the lowest prices, but so many, many, different items including paint, fasteners, plumbing, electrical and thousands of other items ...... all, just a 15-minute drive away.

Between Lowe's, Walmart and the internet.....the local hardware needs real strong customers who support it ...... plus Heaths' usually starts up their free coffee in those high quality, brite red, Tru-Value coffee cups this time of year. Something you probably would not trust to get at a Wal-Mart.

Rand's in Plymouth has k-cup coffee for 50-cents, and it could be the most popular item in the whole store.

Like ....... think I'll head over to Rand's to pick up a $250 all-aluminum, dock ladder, a couple 2" aluminum dock brackets, and a 50-cent cup of coffee, just for that french roast, k-cup ....... yum!
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