Meredith Bay no wake zone

thinkxingu · 08-22-2017, 09:06 AM

We don't go to Meredith anymore--partially because of the NWZ and partially because we drive through on the way to and from camp anyway.

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Hillcountry · 08-22-2017, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by thinkxingu

We don't go to Meredith anymore--partially because of the NWZ and partially because we drive through on the way to and from camp anyway.

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Geeze Louise....the NWZ is not so long that it should be avoided...we're talking a couple minutes here...I still can't understand the all-fired, rush out there on the lake...

thinkxingu · 08-22-2017, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Hillcountry

Geeze Louise....the NWZ is not so long that it should be avoided...we're talking a couple minutes here...I still can't understand the all-fired, rush out there on the lake...

Time is relative. A few minutes in a NWZ, especially when hungry, is like an eternity at a sandbar.

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Woodsy · 08-22-2017, 09:13 PM

The issue I have with any of the NWZ's is the washing machine water that results as the boats enter & leave the NWZ... So every time a NWZ gets created or extended, somebody whose boat gets jostled around inevitably gets upset. So they ask to have the NWZ extended further...

Woodsy

Descant · 08-22-2017, 10:48 PM

I haven't red the law, but isn't it possible to do a repeal petition?

Pine Island Guy · 09-02-2017, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Hillcountry

Geeze Louise....the NWZ is not so long that it should be avoided...we're talking a couple minutes here...I still can't understand the all-fired, rush out there on the lake...

Agreed!

Went into Meredith by boat the other night and timed it from beginning of NWZ to the docks... at a meandering 4kts it took 4 minutes and 40 seconds to a spot at the dock...

I've spent more a lot more time than that waiting in traffic going through the town...

Beautiful weekend so far on the lake, not looking forward to Harvey blowing through tomorrow -PIG

fatlazyless · 09-04-2017, 08:59 PM

www.ekalactivitycenter.com/rentals is located between the Inn at Church Point and the Town Docks restaurant; it has something like fifty different paddle boards, single and double kayaks, canoes, and a pontoon pedal boat.

Many of their customers are new, first time paddlers ..... or occasional paddlers who paddle just maybe once on a full moon ......so making the no wake zone a little bigger is probably good for their paddle board, kayak, canoe and pontoon pedal boat safety.

The no wake zone is equal to about 1/5th of one percent, or 0.02% of the lake area........so, go motorboat someplace else on the big lake....... thank you very much ......... and, goodbye.

Question of the day: Do motorboats have the right of way over paddle boards?

Biggd · 09-05-2017, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Pine Island Guy

Agreed!

Went into Meredith by boat the other night and timed it from beginning of NWZ to the docks... at a meandering 4kts it took 4 minutes and 40 seconds to a spot at the dock...

I've spent more a lot more time than that waiting in traffic going through the town...

Beautiful weekend so far on the lake, not looking forward to Harvey blowing through tomorrow -PIG

It's a busy area, esp on holiday weekends. Safety should be the #1 priority and slowing boats down is the way to do this.

VitaBene · 09-05-2017, 09:06 AM

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It's a busy area, esp on holiday weekends. Safety should be the #1 priority and slowing boats down is the way to do this.

Given that logic, let's make the lake one big NWZ!

Biggd · 09-05-2017, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by VitaBene

Given that logic, let's make the lake one big NWZ!

Ya, that's exactly what I meant!

sum-r breeze · 09-05-2017, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Biggd

It's a busy area, esp on holiday weekends. Safety should be the #1 priority and slowing boats down is the way to do this.

This doesn't address my first question....If the "no wake" zone was pushed by Meredith Marine to safe guard their Gas Dock staff, and they have no Gas Dock staff; Why do we need such a long no wake zone? Did someone else in the bay USE Meredith Marine to push their agenda? Thoughts?

The Breeze
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Hillcountry · 09-05-2017, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sum-r breeze

This doesn't address my first question....If the "no wake" zone was pushed by Meredith Marine to safe gaurd their Gas Dock staff, and they have no Gas Dock staff; Why do we need such a long no wake zone? Did someone else in the bay USE Meredith Marine to push their agenda? Thoughts?

The Breeze
Wave 'cuz I'll be wavin' back

If I recall, there were others besides the MM gas attendants involved in pushing the NWZ out.
There is a marina there too (somehow loosely associated with MM) that owns most of the docks. I know last season when getting fuel at the gas dock several times the wakes were so bad I had to hold my tritoon from getting bashed around while waiting for an attendant. Others have mentioned this issue as well.

BlackcatBoater · 09-05-2017, 07:29 PM

Went through the new no wake zone the other day for the first time this season... not sure why the complaining about the time. Took maybe 5 more minutes? I was out on the water at 10- back around 7. Can't say I noticed enough to complain. Slow moving boat equals more conversation from me to my fast growing kids. I'm sorry to disagree with most... but I have no problems with it.

Descant · 09-05-2017, 09:39 PM

From these postings, it appears the MM gas dock did not have problems until the FIRST NWZ was implemented. Now they have problems because of boats slowing down and dragging large half-throttle wakes as they approach the NWZ?

I know most of us were taught to accelerate and decelerate gradually, but some carry this to an extreme, perhaps, adding to the wake issue?
I only go to Meredith 1 or 2 times per season, so I can't say I'm any authority on either NWZ, just that sometimes we need to be more cautious about what we ask for. You might actually get it.

Woodsy · 09-05-2017, 10:29 PM

Descant...

That's my point..... SO the folks at Church Landing (Rusty & Co) were able to get the Meredith NWZ pushed up further up the bay (because god forbid Meredith say no to them)... This caused problems for Meredith Marina and others... so they successfully petitioned to get the NWZ extended further up the bay. Soon someone else will be petitioning to extend the NWZ yet again!

It has to stop at some point! It really isn't about the extra 2-3 minutes. It is a cycle that needs to be broken!

Woodsy

Hillcountry · 09-05-2017, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Woodsy

Descant...

That's my point..... SO the folks at Church Landing (Rusty & Co) were able to get the Meredith NWZ pushed up further up the bay (because god forbid Meredith say no to them)... This caused problems for Meredith Marina and others... so they successfully petitioned to get the NWZ extended further up the bay. Soon someone else will be petitioning to extend the NWZ yet again!

It has to stop at some point! It really isn't about the extra 2-3 minutes. It is a cycle that needs to be broken! (For Meredith bay anyway)

Woodsy

I would think that the current NWZ Meredith is where it will stay forever.
The reason is that all "commercial" entities are now "protected" by it.
To move it further up the bay would serve no clear purpose other than to appease disgruntled shoreline owners and I believe it would be difficult for any such owners to create enough evidence of damage/danger to make any future changes. This is just my opinion.
And in addition, In my opinion, this "cycle" is broken.

08-22-2017, 09:13 PM	#4
Woodsy Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Weirs Beach Posts: 1,974 Thanks: 80 Thanked 984 Times in 443 Posts	Unintended Consequences The issue I have with any of the NWZ's is the washing machine water that results as the boats enter & leave the NWZ... So every time a NWZ gets created or extended, somebody whose boat gets jostled around inevitably gets upset. So they ask to have the NWZ extended further... Woodsy __________________ The only way to eliminate ignorant behavior is through education. You can't fix stupid.

08-22-2017, 10:48 PM	#5
Descant Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Merrimack and Welch Island Posts: 4,600 Thanks: 1,419 Thanked 1,705 Times in 1,109 Posts	Repeal? I haven't red the law, but isn't it possible to do a repeal petition?

09-04-2017, 08:59 PM	#7
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 9,176 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 310 Thanked 1,103 Times in 812 Posts	www.ekalactivitycenter.com/rentals is located between the Inn at Church Point and the Town Docks restaurant; it has something like fifty different paddle boards, single and double kayaks, canoes, and a pontoon pedal boat. Many of their customers are new, first time paddlers ..... or occasional paddlers who paddle just maybe once on a full moon ......so making the no wake zone a little bigger is probably good for their paddle board, kayak, canoe and pontoon pedal boat safety. The no wake zone is equal to about 1/5th of one percent, or 0.02% of the lake area........so, go motorboat someplace else on the big lake....... thank you very much ......... and, goodbye. Question of the day: Do motorboats have the right of way over paddle boards? __________________ .... Banned for life from local thrift store! Last edited by fatlazyless; 09-05-2017 at 07:28 PM.

09-05-2017, 10:29 PM	#15
Woodsy Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Weirs Beach Posts: 1,974 Thanks: 80 Thanked 984 Times in 443 Posts	Descant... That's my point..... SO the folks at Church Landing (Rusty & Co) were able to get the Meredith NWZ pushed up further up the bay (because god forbid Meredith say no to them)... This caused problems for Meredith Marina and others... so they successfully petitioned to get the NWZ extended further up the bay. Soon someone else will be petitioning to extend the NWZ yet again! It has to stop at some point! It really isn't about the extra 2-3 minutes. It is a cycle that needs to be broken! Woodsy __________________ The only way to eliminate ignorant behavior is through education. You can't fix stupid.

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08-22-2017, 09:06 AM	#1
thinkxingu Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 6,563 Thanks: 1,184 Thanked 2,182 Times in 1,357 Posts	We don't go to Meredith anymore--partially because of the NWZ and partially because we drive through on the way to and from camp anyway. Sent from my XT1528 using Tapatalk

09-05-2017, 07:29 PM	#13
BlackcatBoater Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 29 Thanks: 2 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Went through the new no wake zone the other day for the first time this season... not sure why the complaining about the time. Took maybe 5 more minutes? I was out on the water at 10- back around 7. Can't say I noticed enough to complain. Slow moving boat equals more conversation from me to my fast growing kids. I'm sorry to disagree with most... but I have no problems with it.

09-05-2017, 09:39 PM	#14
Descant Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Merrimack and Welch Island Posts: 4,600 Thanks: 1,419 Thanked 1,705 Times in 1,109 Posts	From these postings, it appears the MM gas dock did not have problems until the FIRST NWZ was implemented. Now they have problems because of boats slowing down and dragging large half-throttle wakes as they approach the NWZ? I know most of us were taught to accelerate and decelerate gradually, but some carry this to an extreme, perhaps, adding to the wake issue? I only go to Meredith 1 or 2 times per season, so I can't say I'm any authority on either NWZ, just that sometimes we need to be more cautious about what we ask for. You might actually get it.