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Old 09-16-2017, 07:54 AM   #1
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The whole question of gas dock problems at the marina is irrelevant and was never a driver of the change in that NWZ. Bay Shore Yacht Club is the entity that holds all the docks by the Meredith Marina. This is a dockominium association - to join, buy a dock. Full disclosure - I am a member. At annual meetings it became apparent that the biggest complaint of boaters who dock there was the heavy rock and roll caused by big boats coming into Meredith. Some members were knocked off their feet as they stood on their boats at the dock; one gentleman required knee surgery due to one of these knockdowns. Club members were invited to sign a petition requesting an extension of the NWZ and the response was pretty much unanimous. Property owners on the shore in proximity to the club also joined the petition. Property owners further down the line will not be impacted as much as some have suggested because their shore is farther away from the boating lanes and so the wave energy is less intense there.
It is also a matter of public safety for SUP and kayak users in the bay, and you don't have to rent a kayak or a board to get in the water - there is easy public access. As for the big inconvenience of spending an extra 4 or 5 minutes getting into the docks area - give me a break. You aren't going to get a public dock without waiting 20 - 30 minutes anyway, so what 's the rush? If you are in that much of a hurry Meredith is not a good destination for you during peak times. BTW NH Marine Patrol is watching that new line and if you blow through it they will write you up. Slow and steady wins the race.


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Old 09-16-2017, 09:12 AM   #2
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I had a chat with two of the owners at the Bay Shore Yacht Club during this fantastic week. Both feels no difference in wakes this year and one feels it is worst as the boats slowing up and down appears more directly in front of the club! I basically said be careful what you wish for and another boat owner says it is best to put up a breakwater like the rest of the yacht clubs on the lake.

If you think Meredith is bad, take a look at Saunders Bay, with all those big 'battleships' coming in and out of MVYC, it makes Meredith look tame! Yet we put up with it and take extra precaution with our boats.

You should blame Rusty for you problems as it has started when he extended the NWZ, now you made it worst!
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I had a chat with two of the owners at the Bay Shore Yacht Club during this fantastic week. Both feel no difference in wakes this year and one feels it is worse as the boats slowing up and down appear more directly in front of the club! I basically said be careful what you wish for and another boat owner says it is best to put up a breakwater like the rest of the yacht clubs on the lake. If you think Meredith is bad, take a look at Saunders Bay, with all those big 'battleships' coming in and out of MVYC, it makes Meredith look tame! Yet we put up with it and take extra precaution with our boats. You should blame Rusty for your problems as it has started when he extended the NWZ, now you made it worst!
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The whole question of gas dock problems at the marina is irrelevant and was never a driver of the change in that NWZ. Bay Shore Yacht Club is the entity that holds all the docks by the Meredith Marina. This is a dockominium association - to join, buy a dock. Full disclosure - I am a member. Property owners further down the line will not be impacted as much as some have suggested because their shore is farther away from the boating lanes and so the wave energy is less intense there.
It is also a matter of public safety for SUP and kayak users in the bay, and you don't have to rent a kayak or a board to get in the water - there is easy public access. As for the big inconvenience of spending an extra 4 or 5 minutes getting into the docks area - give me a break. You aren't going to get a public dock without waiting 20 - 30 minutes anyway, so what 's the rush? If you are in that much of a hurry Meredith is not a good destination for you during peak times. BTW NH Marine Patrol is watching that new line and if you blow through it they will write you up. Slow and steady wins the race.
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The "its all about me" position many take is beyond absurd. Do your due diligence prior to making a purchase and see that yes, passing boats do make wakes. If that bothers you perhaps you should make a purchase someplace else.

Can we get the Broads made into a no wake zone because it is impossible to stand on a boat at your house without the risk of getting knocked down by the boat wakes.

My house is around the corner from Mountain View Yacht Club and the larger boats coming and going do make waves. Should we start a petition to have Saunders Bay made into a no wake zone? And, in a couple of years we could petition to extend the no wake zone out to the Witches?

The lake was there long before they decided to rent out SUP paddleboards in Meredith and now we should extend the no wake zone to make someone's private business safer and more successful?

How long will it be until someone submits a petition to make Wolfeboro Bay into a no wake zone?
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Old 09-16-2017, 10:32 AM   #5
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How long will it be until someone submits a petition to make Wolfeboro Bay into a no wake zone?
Are there many paddle boarders who venture out onto Wolfeboro Bay, or do they pretty much stay in the back bay, flat water area, behind the little bridge, under Wolfeboro's Main St, there? Is it high enough clearance for paddlers to be standing underneath that bridge there? Maybe a drawbridge is needed here to allow for the taller sup paddle boarders ........ ahoy there ........Madam drawbridge keeper ......ahoy ...... 'yooooo, hey sweet heart, dearie ........ you wanna raise your drawbridge!' ..... and accommodated the paddlers in accordance with the American's with Disabilities Act (ADA) of 1990 ....... for us retarded paddle boarders .... arf-arf?

Paddle boarding is totally all about getting the correct size paddle board that is good for you .....so's best to go try a rental for starters.
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Are there many paddle boarders who venture out onto Wolfeboro Bay, or do they pretty much stay in the back bay, flat water area, behind the little bridge, under Wolfeboro's Main St, there? Is it high enough clearance for paddlers to be standing underneath that bridge there? Maybe a drawbridge is needed here to allow for the taller sup paddle boarders ........ ahoy there ........Madam drawbridge keeper ......ahoy ...... 'yooooo, hey sweet heart, dearie ........ you wanna raise your drawbridge!' ..... and accommodated the paddlers in accordance with the American's with Disabilities Act (ADA) of 1990 ....... for us retarded paddle boarders .... arf-arf?

Paddle boarding is totally all about getting the correct size paddle board that is good for you .....so's best to go try a rental for starters.
You get more and more disgusting every time I read your asinine posts.
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You get more and more disgusting every time I read your asinine posts.
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....oh well.....probably not one of my more polite posts....apologies extended if I offended.....what can I say.....sometimes you win.....sometimes you lose....and sometimes you get rained out?


.....say hey.....talking about paddle boards....here's what looks like three Nalu 12.5' Ocean Surfer combination stand up paddle board/sit down kayaks for sale used for $275 ......new price $750 ....at Rockywold summer camps for families in Holderness, on Big Squam Lake. Betcha they would let them go for $250.......plus it includes a high quality and unusual style paddle.

.....seems like an interesting paddle board design for a relatively low price.....go get out the Clorox gel cleaner and the Armorall original vinyl treatment and go do some restoration? A new seat back can be purchased for as low as $30 ....... if needed ...... as the kayak seat backs seem to be looking worn and weathered in the photo.

Size: 12'6" x 30.5"
Weight: 50-lbs
Capacity: 300 to 350-lbs
Material: rotomold polyethylene, tough and durable similar to a kayak
Color: red

https://nh.craigslist.org/boa/d/used...305487737.html

Just picture yourself paddling this red Nalu 12.5' sit down kayak/stand-up paddle board in the extremely scenic Meredith Bay no wake zone on Lake Winnipesaukee, as a number of very pricey motorboats glide safely past you, moving along at their no wake, 6-mph speed.
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Old 09-17-2017, 07:41 AM   #9
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How far does a post have to get to being churlish to the extreme before you take action? Insulting the handicapped is TOO far in my opinion and you are complicit in FLL posting this unacceptable garbage. Rude members will continue to push the envelope due to their inherent adolescent personalities unless you take some action.
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How far does a post have to get to being churlish to the extreme before you take action? Insulting the handicapped is TOO far in my opinion and you are complicit in FLL posting this unacceptable garbage. Rude members will continue to push the envelope due to their inherent adolescent personalities unless you take some action.


Who are you talking to in this post? Who is "you" Don?


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....oh well.....probably not one of my more polite posts....apologies extended if I offended.....what can I say.....sometimes you win.....sometimes you lose....and sometimes you get rained out?


.....say hey.....talking about paddle boards....here's what looks like three Nalu 12.5' Ocean Surfer combination stand up paddle board/sit down kayaks for sale used for $275 ......new price $750 ....at Rockywold summer camps for families in Holderness, on Big Squam Lake. Betcha they would let them go for $250.......plus it includes a high quality and unusual style paddle.

.....seems like an interesting paddle board design for a relatively low price.....get out the Clorox gel cleaner and the Armorall original vinyl treatment and go do some restoration? A new seat back can be purchased for as low as $30 ....... if needed ...... as the kayak seat backs seem to be looking worn and weathered in the photo.

Size: 12'6" x 30.5"
Weight: 50-lbs
Capacity: 300 to 350-lbs
Material: polyethylene
Color: red

https://nh.craigslist.org/boa/d/used...305487737.html

Just picture yourself paddling this red Nalu 12.5' sit down kayak/stand-up paddle board in the extremely scenic Meredith Bay no wake zone on Lake Winnipesaukee, as a number of very pricey motorboats glide safely past you, moving along at their no wake, 6-mph speed.

IMHO Not even an ounce of remorse, just more of the same.
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Say ....... Topwater ...... your name implies you are a fisherman ......so here's a 1:40 youtube showing the Nalu 12'er set up for kayak fishing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC5oJSN69HY&t=1

As far as apologizing for my impolite comments....... I apologize.....not too polite of me.....and I get your message..... thanks.

And, here's a youtube with the Nalu-12 close to a sandy ocean beach in the Black Sea, Ukraine, (maybe Crimea?) stand up paddling the small waves:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3FlzUNB8BY

Just picture yourself on a used Rockywold $250 red Nalu-12, just out beyond the Meredith Bay no wake zone, border 6-mph/45-mph line ...... using it to surf the big wakes created by the powerful and expensive motorboats as they power up to go down the bay, away from the no wake zone.....or as they power down, closing into the zone.

Nalu 12, stand up paddle board, bass fishing with a fly rod: 1:20, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KelayFUmUE4
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The "its all about me" position many take is beyond absurd. Do your due diligence prior to making a purchase...
Color me confused. Wouldn't this apply to your friend on Welcome Island as well?
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Color me confused. Wouldn't this apply to your friend on Welcome Island as well?
Sorry for your confusion.

Mr. Brown feels he has done everything right and complied with the law. He has worked hard and spent a lot of his money to prove that he is correct. It is still playing out.

The difference is, unlike the Meredith no wake zone, he has inconvenienced no one and his actions have not had a negative impact on anyone. The work he has done on the island has not had harmed the lake, or anyone using it, in any way.

There, I hope I helped with your confusion. I have performed my public service for the day!
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How did this conversation spill over into this thread? It has it's own thread.
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Oh no! Thread Police!

If it upsets you maybe you should send a PM to the Perp. and call them out?
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How did this conversation spill over into this thread? It has it's own thread.
Just pointing out some hypocrisy.
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The whole question of gas dock problems at the marina is irrelevant and was never a driver of the change in that NWZ. Bay Shore Yacht Club is the entity that holds all the docks by the Meredith Marina. This is a dockominium association - to join, buy a dock. Full disclosure - I am a member. At annual meetings it became apparent that the biggest complaint of boaters who dock there was the heavy rock and roll caused by big boats coming into Meredith. Some members were knocked off their feet as they stood on their boats at the dock; one gentleman required knee surgery due to one of these knockdowns. Club members were invited to sign a petition requesting an extension of the NWZ and the response was pretty much unanimous. Property owners on the shore in proximity to the club also joined the petition. Property owners further down the line will not be impacted as much as some have suggested because their shore is farther away from the boating lanes and so the wave energy is less intense there.
It is also a matter of public safety for SUP and kayak users in the bay, and you don't have to rent a kayak or a board to get in the water - there is easy public access. As for the big inconvenience of spending an extra 4 or 5 minutes getting into the docks area - give me a break. You aren't going to get a public dock without waiting 20 - 30 minutes anyway, so what 's the rush? If you are in that much of a hurry Meredith is not a good destination for you during peak times. BTW NH Marine Patrol is watching that new line and if you blow through it they will write you up. Slow and steady wins the race.
Just a note regarding MP "watching" the new NWZ "line"
I valet out of MM and this week took my boat out and waited near the NWZ line of buoys while waiting for my wife to arrive at the gas dock...EVERY SINGLE BOAT boat that came into the NWZ in the hour that I waited just drifting and re positioning because of the breeze, did NOT SLOW DOWN TO NO WAKE SPEED until, in some cases, hundreds of feet inside the buoys....some slowed down immediately after crossing the line, some didn't and "most" continued toward the public docks making some sort of wake from mild to very bad. No MP in sight that beautiful afternoon... in fact, I was daydreaming that I was a MP officer and was having a field day writing tickets to these scofflaws....unbelievable.
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