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[Garcia]

Originally Posted by MAXUM

CNN a legitimate news source?

CNN on Friday corrected an erroneous report that Donald Trump Jr. had received advance notice from the anti-secrecy group WikiLeaks about a trove of hacked documents that it planned to release during last yearÂ’s presidential campaign.

This is just the latest in a long line of false, misleading, or otherwise made up stores pushed and or published by not only CNN but the rest of the main stream media so why in the world would I bother to take anything they say is factual? Unfortunately it's damn near impossible to get straight up hard news reporting free of any spin which makes it very difficult for us, the voting public, to keep an eye on the very people we elect into office.

Yes, I do believe CNN is a legitimate news source staffed by people who worry too much about breaking a story rather than slowing down and making sure it is accurate - common among all journalists. Mistakes are made and legitimate news sources take appropriate actions, hold people accountable, and make corrections which is what both ABC and CNN did. Do I think they are free of spin? No, which goes back to my earlier point of getting news from multiple sources all of whom approach news with their own biases and spin. I keep looking but haven't found that single source that simply presents hard news. How can there be such a source when simply deciding what is worth reporting and what isn't is putting spin on the news...

[Hillcountry]

Originally Posted by Garcia

Yes, I do believe CNN is a legitimate news source staffed by people who worry too much about breaking a story rather than slowing down and making sure it is accurate - common among all journalists. Mistakes are made and legitimate news sources take appropriate actions, hold people accountable, and make corrections which is what both ABC and CNN did. Do I think they are free of spin? No, which goes back to my earlier point of getting news from multiple sources all of whom approach news with their own biases and spin. I keep looking but haven't found that single source that simply presents hard news. How can there be such a source when simply deciding what is worth reporting and what isn't is putting spin on the news...

Can I interest you in a bridge?

[Major]

Originally Posted by Hillcountry

Can I interest you in a bridge?

CNN is only concerned about destroying Trump. CNN is broadcast in our gym, so I watch it most mornings. Every second of every day of every week is dedicated to tearing him down. Take last Saturday morning, for example. After his great speech on Friday night, I laughed out loud when I read the breaking news tagline -- Trump lied about black homeownership in America. Of all the things said by Trump during that great speech, CNN zeros in on a trivial, who cares, throwaway statement. I would respect the networks more if they just came out and said that they are trying to impeach Trump. It is clearly what they are trying to do.

[Garcia]

[QUOTE=Major;288578]

Originally Posted by Hillcountry

Can I interest you in a bridge? [/QUOTE

CNN is only concerned about destroying Trump. CNN is broadcast in our gym, so I watch it most mornings. Every second of every day of every week is dedicated to tearing him down. Take last Saturday morning, for example. After his great speech on Friday night, I laughed out loud when I read the breaking news tagline -- Trump lied about black homeownership in America. Of all the things said by Trump during that great speech, CNN zeros in on a trivial, who cares, throwaway statement. I would respect the networks more if they just came out and said that they are trying to impeach Trump. It is clearly what they are trying to do.

There is some truth in this, just like there is truth in Fox News doing everything in its power to destroy Democrats including President Obama and the Clintons (and no, I am not a fan of HRC - far from it!). Which is why, for me, I want to see the same news story presented by sources with markedly different spin on the same event. Fox News is a legitimate news source - with its own biases and spin built in, but I would no more get all my news solely from them than I would CNN.

[Biggd]

This thread really went off the rails! I'm sure I contributed to it.

[Flylady]

I too find that tuning into the opposing view networks helps me understand what the opposing views are seeing and how they interpret the information. Funny how some (including our President) are quick to jump on media mistakes even though quick apologies and corrections were made. However the same people are so quick to judge have no problem listening to the misinformation and lies coming from the President. He has yet to step back or apologize for any of the bad information he spreads.

In listening to Fox news the other night I found they spent a lot of air time on the Clinton e-mails......what I really do not understand is why do so many people care about a person who has not held a public position in almost 6 years? Going back 7 or 8 years will accomplish what? How will that make our and our children's lives better in the future?

[Biggd]

My dad always said, "today is the first day of the rest of your life". Try and be better starting today.

[Hillcountry]

Originally Posted by Flylady

I too find that tuning into the opposing view networks helps me understand what the opposing views are seeing and how they interpret the information. Funny how some (including our President) are quick to jump on media mistakes even though quick apologies and corrections were made. However the same people are so quick to judge have no problem listening to the misinformation and lies coming from the President. He has yet to step back or apologize for any of the bad information he spreads.

In listening to Fox news the other night I found they spent a lot of air time on the Clinton e-mails......what I really do not understand is why do so many people care about a person who has not held a public position in almost 6 years? Going back 7 or 8 years will accomplish what? How will that make our and our children's lives better in the future?

The reason is because of the Washington swamp’s double standard of justice for career, criminal, politicians. Many in gov’t conspired to make sure that not only, HRC was not penalized for her crimes, but for assuring that she become president...which failed miserably. It’s all coming out how the deep state did it’s dirty work.
Are you also happy that government perverts that committed abuse of women through the years also used TAXPAYER’S money to pay them to be quiet? (to the tune of 17 million)
Yes, this thread got derailed but some things just cannot go unchallenged.

[Major]

Originally Posted by Biggd

This thread really went off the rails! I'm sure I contributed to it.

You and me both! Sorry Don!

[Flylady]

Not that I follow all of the Washington BS...but I guess I must have missed the crimes that HRC was charged with or convicted of......no different that the current President...not charged or convicted so in my eyes both are on the same page.

As for the current "Me Too" movement its about time......and the good ole boys in the House and Congress using taxpayers money to keep victims silent is a disgrace to every woman in this country....and each of them who paid for silence should be relieved of their seat.

So how will focusing on investigating past politicians help our current and future economic and national welfare?

[noreast]

Someone mentioned lobbyist's, BINGO, if either party had any interest at all in getting the money out of politics they'd win in a landslide. Not the north Korean land slide like Trump said he won by, but a real one. The only real job of an elected official now is to vote for there donors. If the money were pouring into the republicans to be pro choice, Roy Moore would come out today and say God told him that the population was out of control and the dummies down south would fall in line. We're to dumb to survive I fear.

[ApS]

Originally Posted by swnoel

Who's refusing it... the VA?

When I had an eye infection that needed regular care, I thought it best to make my very-first connection to coordinate with VA hospitals for the long drive to NH.

In 2013, their reply disclosed only two conditions under which the VA would handle an infirmity:

1) Rape
2) Stationed in Afghanistan or Iraq



More.

Originally Posted by Flylady

Not that I follow all of the Washington BS...but I guess I must have missed the crimes that HRC was charged with or convicted of......no different that the current President...not charged or convicted so in my eyes both are on the same page. As for the current "Me Too" movement its about time......and the good ole boys in the House and Congress using taxpayers money to keep victims silent is a disgrace to every woman in this country....and each of them who paid for silence should be relieved of their seat.

The "Washington BS" was asphyxiated this past summer, when it was revealed that the FBI had demoted leading agents who both exonerated HRC and attempted a DJT coup. IF there were any LSM news of last summer's dismissals, they didn't appear until this month!

Strzok and Page

Originally Posted by Flylady

So how will focusing on investigating past politicians help our current and future economic and national welfare?

Past politicians have "slush funds" masquerading as "Foundations". This corruption is fading from the news, but only since last year's election.

Pity the LIV.

[fatlazyless]

Starting in 2018, after the G.O.P. Tax Cut & Reform Bill is passed, people in the United States who attend an exercise class will get hit with a five dollar/hour exercise tax because they are wasting their valuable energy according to Donald Trump.

Trump believes the human body is like a battery, with a finite amount of energy, which exercise only depletes. So he doesn't work out.

[noreast]

Fattest president in 100 years? they say he's 236, looks at least 270 to me. He has one of those guts that's never had a muscle at any point.

[Rusty]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

Starting in 2018, after the G.O.P. Tax Cut & Reform Bill is passed, people in the United States who attend an exercise class will get hit with a five dollar/hour exercise tax because they are wasting their valuable energy according to Donald Trump.

Trump believes the human body is like a battery, with a finite amount of energy, which exercise only depletes. So he doesn't work out.

Don't believe everything you hear on Fox News.

[ApS]

Originally Posted by ApS

The "Washington BS" was asphyxiated this past summer, when it was revealed that the FBI had demoted leading agents who both exonerated HRC and attempted a DJT coup. IF there were any LSM news of last summer's dismissals, they didn't appear until this month!

Strzok and Page

Past politicians have "slush funds" masquerading as "Foundations". This corruption is fading from the news, but only since last year's election.

Pity the LIV.

(Low Information Voter).

Strzok was escorted from the FBI building in June, and has since lost his security clearance, and by August was fired from the FBI. His pension is in peril, and a GoFundMe effort has raised ½-million dollars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EfX...ature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xC5hBQtjks

Strzok's FBI girl friend/confidant, Lisa Page, also has been discredited, and has retired.

[ApS]

Originally Posted by Flylady

Not that I follow all of the Washington BS...but I guess I must have missed the crimes that HRC was charged with or convicted of......no different that the current President...not charged or convicted so in my eyes both are on the same page.
As for the current "Me Too" movement its about time......and the good ole boys in the House and Congress using taxpayers money to keep victims silent is a disgrace to every woman in this country....and each of them who paid for silence should be relieved of their seat. So how will focusing on investigating past politicians help our current and future economic and national welfare?

$750,000 says, "Not so fast"...

Lisa Bloom

[Flylady]

I always like to look at the background of writers and bloggers that present articles list the one you just referenced. As always..follow the money trail..big business energy consultant.....

Latest Articles from David Blackmon | OilPrice.com
https://oilprice.com/contributors/David-Blackmon
David Blackmon is an independent energy analyst/consultant based in Mansfield, TX. David has enjoyed a 38-year career in the oil and gas industry, the last 25 years of which have been spend in the public policy arena, managing regulatory and legislative issues for various companies, including Burlington Resources, ...

Not an independent perspective in my opinion.

[noreast]

Me too, I'd prefer to get my news from someone that I can't figure out which side there on, preferably not on either side, Actual reporting.

[ApS]

Originally Posted by Flylady

I always like to look at the background of writers and bloggers that present articles list the one you just referenced. As always..follow the money trail..big business energy consultant.....Latest Articles from David Blackmon | OilPrice.com
https://oilprice.com/contributors/David-Blackmon
David Blackmon is an independent energy analyst/consultant based in Mansfield, TX. David has enjoyed a 38-year career in the oil and gas industry, the last 25 years of which have been spend in the public policy arena, managing regulatory and legislative issues for various companies, including Burlington Resources, ... Not an independent perspective in my opinion.

David Blackman's data indistinguishable from the Capital's largest daily newspaper:

The Hill

[noreast]

That's not the point, I believe he was correct in that article. The point is that he never says when his boys are wrong or the other guys are right so he has no credibility. It's not news, one side of an issue is never the whole story.

[Biggd]

Just watched a 60 Minutes report on the drug industry and the pushing of Opioid sales regardless of red flags. McKesson was fined 150 million dollars by the DEA and DOJ when they make 150 million dollars a day on drug sales. The CEO is the third highest paid CEO in the country. And we wonder why health insurance keeps going up.

[noreast]

Yup, Imagine all the crap we don't know.

[Hillcountry]

Originally Posted by Flylady

Not that I follow all of the Washington BS...but I guess I must have missed the crimes that HRC was accused or charged of

Oh....it’s coming, it’s coming...stay tuned.

[noreast]

I have a feeling Trump and his extended family will make it behind bars before she does. As I've said before they both belong in there. In fact I predicted Donald would get there as soon as he announced he was running. Luckily for him the Russian banks didn't shut him off when the US banks did. That probably saved his ass from prison years ago. There regulations aren't quite as strict on organized bank fraud and laundering as ours. At least for now anyway.

[Hillcountry]

Originally Posted by noreast

I have a feeling Trump and his extended family will make it behind bars before she does. As I've said before they both belong in there. In fact I predicted Donald would get there as soon as he announced he was running. Luckily for him the Russian banks didn't shut him off when the US banks did. That probably saved his ass from prison years ago. There regulations aren't quite as strict on organized bank fraud and laundering as ours. At least for now anyway.

Uhh...no

[Garcia]

Originally Posted by Hillcountry

Can I interest you in a bridge?

And bring cars to the island? Never! Besides, trolls live under bridges - and in our world today we don't need any more of them!