Dock bubblers

SAB1 · 04-25-2018, 07:37 PM

Dan is spot on ......again! Last bubbler I bought was just $650 a year ago

AC2717 · 04-26-2018, 08:08 AM

we have two on our docking system and they are the frame sitting on the bottom type. the better of the choices out of the way of ice. they are on a alternating time so not to run 24 hour straight every day for 4-5 months.
They definitely do not stop ice flow, but we had pylons put out in front of the docks in line with the slip fingers and we need to have some re-driven every year or so because they take the brunt of the damage but having free water around the docks instead of the ice softens the blows to the pylons and the docks for sure because there is room to move.
we are south east in Paugus bay in the corner near the Margate, always the direction of the wind either coming from Lakeport or across the bay, everything comes our way

FlyingScot · 04-26-2018, 06:32 PM

If you don't know the cause, and are about be be stuck with a second repair bill plus a bubbler that may not solve the problem, maybe now is a good time to consider a crank up seasonal?

If you're calling Watermark about a bubbler, you could ask them a ballpark price for a dock.

Eyeboat · 04-27-2018, 09:42 PM

Learned a lot this year about ice damage and deicers. Damage can be from three different forces and the deicers only cover two. The two they are useful for are expansion and jacking. As ice freezes it expands. If your dock is frozen in the ice as the mass is expanding it can be pushed off its footings. These are mainly horizontal forces. Jacking occurs if the dock is frozen in the ice and the ice lifts it will lift the dock and footings up every so slightly. This is a vertical force that can repeat over and over pulling footings right out of the lake bed. Deicers safe guard against both of these sources of damage. Unfortunately nothing protects a dock from flowing ice in the spring.

Eyeboat · 04-27-2018, 09:44 PM

BTW, Watermark has a Dockwatch program which is affordable and lends a piece of mind. They will set and check your deicers periodically

bridget · 06-05-2019, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Eyeboat

BTW, Watermark has a Dockwatch program which is affordable and lends a piece of mind. They will set and check your deicers periodically

We had the dock watch program for our bubbler through watermark... the bubbler must have stopped working and the dock froze and is damaged... can’t get anyone to repair it until 2020. Absolutely false piece of mind...

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Barney Bear · 06-05-2019, 07:30 PM

Island Service Company provides our circulator, installs it, monitors it during the winter season, and removes it at ice-out at our place on East Bear Island. The electric cost is high, but worth it. Just hope that the wind blows the ice away from the dock. We have a breakwater that protects us from north winds. 🐻

Bear Islander · 06-05-2019, 07:43 PM

We use an "Ice Eater Model P750" it has been working for twenty years now. I recommend using a thermostat, it will save you money in the long run.

https://thepowerhouseinc.com/iceeaterdocks/

04-26-2018, 08:08 AM	#2
AC2717 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Maynard, MA & Paugus Bay Posts: 2,564 Thanks: 753 Thanked 353 Times in 265 Posts	we have two on our docking system and they are the frame sitting on the bottom type. the better of the choices out of the way of ice. they are on a alternating time so not to run 24 hour straight every day for 4-5 months. They definitely do not stop ice flow, but we had pylons put out in front of the docks in line with the slip fingers and we need to have some re-driven every year or so because they take the brunt of the damage but having free water around the docks instead of the ice softens the blows to the pylons and the docks for sure because there is room to move. we are south east in Paugus bay in the corner near the Margate, always the direction of the wind either coming from Lakeport or across the bay, everything comes our way __________________ Capt. of the "No Worries"

04-26-2018, 06:32 PM	#3
FlyingScot Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Tuftonboro and Sudbury, MA Posts: 2,362 Thanks: 1,262 Thanked 1,015 Times in 626 Posts	Crank up dock? If you don't know the cause, and are about be be stuck with a second repair bill plus a bubbler that may not solve the problem, maybe now is a good time to consider a crank up seasonal? If you're calling Watermark about a bubbler, you could ask them a ballpark price for a dock.

06-05-2019, 07:30 PM	#7
Barney Bear Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 962 Thanks: 495 Thanked 273 Times in 174 Posts	Winter Dock Protection Island Service Company provides our circulator, installs it, monitors it during the winter season, and removes it at ice-out at our place on East Bear Island. The electric cost is high, but worth it. Just hope that the wind blows the ice away from the dock. We have a breakwater that protects us from north winds. 🐻

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04-25-2018, 07:37 PM	#1
SAB1 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Tuftonboro Posts: 1,224 Thanks: 188 Thanked 318 Times in 233 Posts	Dan is spot on ......again! Last bubbler I bought was just $650 a year ago

04-27-2018, 09:42 PM	#4
Eyeboat Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 52 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Learned a lot this year about ice damage and deicers. Damage can be from three different forces and the deicers only cover two. The two they are useful for are expansion and jacking. As ice freezes it expands. If your dock is frozen in the ice as the mass is expanding it can be pushed off its footings. These are mainly horizontal forces. Jacking occurs if the dock is frozen in the ice and the ice lifts it will lift the dock and footings up every so slightly. This is a vertical force that can repeat over and over pulling footings right out of the lake bed. Deicers safe guard against both of these sources of damage. Unfortunately nothing protects a dock from flowing ice in the spring.

04-27-2018, 09:44 PM	#5
Eyeboat Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 52 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	BTW, Watermark has a Dockwatch program which is affordable and lends a piece of mind. They will set and check your deicers periodically

06-05-2019, 07:43 PM	#8
Bear Islander Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bear Island Posts: 1,762 Thanks: 32 Thanked 440 Times in 207 Posts	We use an "Ice Eater Model P750" it has been working for twenty years now. I recommend using a thermostat, it will save you money in the long run. https://thepowerhouseinc.com/iceeaterdocks/